Rush .05/.10

[chrispycream 0]

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 492493The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterCO: $4.32BTN: $32.58SB: $11.53BB: $10.00Hero (UTG): $13.56MP: $8.00Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q Q Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60Flop: ($1.95) 3 K K (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20Turn: ($4.35) A (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50River: ($9.35) Q (2 players)Hero bets $4.40, BTN raises to $22.55, Hero calls $4.56 all inI honestly like how I played the hand until the river. I think 4 betting preflop is fine, but OOP, I think flat calling is ok. Some might question the call on the turn, but I think his range is wide enough here that folding is a mistake...I have under-represented my hand and the Ace looks like a scare card and is easy for villian to fire a bluff. I think my biggest concern is on the river...is betting out here right? Or do we check and let the villian hang himself...Let me know if you disagree with other points in the hand. thanks

[KingJames 11]

Well as a disclaimer, I have not played the rush, but I hear it is kind of a nitfest.That being said he 3bet your utg open, Often indicitive of aa kk ak. You only beat jj (and aq, but in rush it's hard to say if aq is in his 3bet range) as far as a tag/nit 3betting rangecoupled with the fact that you posted the hand I'd def say we should find a fold on the turnyou also lose to the krablarsizing really looks really "value" Yes, fold the turn

[KingJames 11]

As played i doubt leading the river is optimal... Like I'm trying to find a hand we beat that will call... Aq kj but like I said I don't know if someone 3bets you utg open with those hands at a frequency which will be profitable... Then it's super gross when he shoves over our river bet as he can't believe he has any fold equity...

[trystero 0]

6max is a lot harder than FR readlessI fold the turn.....that card's gross. You're oop and praying that villain's turning the bottom of his range (like 99/JJ) into a bluff. Now look at the inconsistency in your logic. You call on the turn because you feel (and since it's Rush you don't really have reason to believe it) that his range is wider than KK+/AJ+. But when the river comes you throw out a bet looking to do what? I thought you had continued because you felt he was bluffing? The river bet will just fold out the bottom of his range that is the sole reason for why you had called on the turn

[chrispycream 0]

6max is a lot harder than FR readlessI fold the turn.....that card's gross. You're oop and praying that villain's turning the bottom of his range (like 99/JJ) into a bluff. Now look at the inconsistency in your logic. You call on the turn because you feel (and since it's Rush you don't really have reason to believe it) that his range is wider than KK+/AJ+. But when the river comes you throw out a bet looking to do what? I thought you had continued because you felt he was bluffing? The river bet will just fold out the bottom of his range that is the sole reason for why you had called on the turn

Yeah, your last point is definitely why I think my river bet is a mistake. I should have mentioned that the villain is a reg, so his three bet does not automatically make his range thatttt narrow. I think the villain might remember me - I would guess (based on nothing) that he has seen me open quite a few pots.

[rrumsey 0]

catching the queen on the river doesn't help us much, we are just so crushed unless villain is a lagtard, so i dont ever lead. That being said, it is a total sucker hand and we kinda have to call the flop. therefore, we hate this turn a ton and i fold, but if you do call, we are i guess in check call mode on the river regardless of what hits imo

[CobaltBlue 662]

Yes, our hand is under-represented. Yes, that's a great turn card for villain to fire as a bluff. That said, it doesn't add up that he's bluffing much here. It also puts us in a terrible position on the river. Like, we think we have the best hand on the turn, yeah? What is your plan on the river sans improvement? The pressure that he can put on us is going to be terrible. If I did somehow find a call here on the turn...I think this would be a rare instance where I'd c/c the river with a FH.

[Dictius 0]

I honestly like how I played the hand until the river. I think 4 betting preflop is fine, but OOP, I think flat calling is ok.

Interested in this, are you saying 4betting QQ is better to do OOP or IP?I think it would be best to 4bet OOP since that means we have to make less difficult decisions postflop.

[DemonDonk 0]

People aren't bluffing as much as you think they are. Seriously, it's 10nl rush. Your hand is not under-represented, as your hand is very weak.If we give the villain a value range preflop of AA-JJ and AK, maybe AQ, (people may be 3betting light at 10nl rush, but I wouldn't bet on it) then while the flop maybe a c/c, the turn is definitely a c/f, reason being we are no longer ahead of much at all, and are drawing dead/slim to the portion of hands that we are beaten by. This is called a 'reverse implied odds' situation, meaning that we stand to lose a lot more than we win. Here you have invested half your stack trying to pick off a occasional bluff, but 10nl regs are not bluffing very often at all, especially at Rush, where they have none to little reads and no HUD. I'd be really surprised if you could show me occasions where 10nl villains are turning the bottom of their range into bluffs on an AKKx board in a 3bet pot. On the river do we continue with our read on a blank? Do we invest the rest of our stack to pick off that occasional bluff? If you are going to c/f a blank river, well then that's a leak because you are always better off c/f the turn than c/f the river when more of your stack is invested. If you are going to c/c the river too, well then you went with your read which is good, but I think it's a false read, and it will lose you money over the long term. As for the river Q, it really doesn't change much. Whatever beat you then most likely still beats you, AK, AA, and KK are most of his range. I would suggest just c/f the river, but that sounds weak/tight, but this is why c/c flop and turn is bad, as we don't have a plan for the river and we end up in a situation where a full house is basically a bluff catcher with a lot of your stack in the pot.

[Nashtak 0]

Well as a disclaimer, I have not played the rush, but I hear it is kind of a nitfest.That being said he 3bet your utg open, Often indicitive of aa kk ak. You only beat jj (and aq, but in rush it's hard to say if aq is in his 3bet range) as far as a tag/nit 3betting rangecoupled with the fact that you posted the hand I'd def say we should find a fold on the turnyou also lose to the krablarsizing really looks really "value" Yes, fold the turn

Don't **** with the krablar.