Ak Facing Tons Of Aggression [$11 9man]

[Avii 0]

On a shorthanded table, I'm never good here right? I have been multitabling, so no reads, and villains probably see me as tight.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Replayer from Poker Hands ReplayerButton (t1395)SB (t1230)Avii (BB) (t2710)UTG (t2040)MP (t2130)CO (t3995)Avii's M: 12.04Preflop: Avii is BB with A , K 2 folds, CO bets t385, Button raises to t620, 1 fold, Hero (t0) ?

[XXEddie 0]

Shorthanded facing a CO raise and a Button minraise this is an instafistpumpphilhellmuthstyle shove imo.

[Avii 0]

spoiler:hahaha i think i'm getting too results oriented. tnx for the reply.

[Canary3 1]

Easy shove

[Sick Boy 0]

Thats a shove. AINEC at all. Shove this all day long.

[SwolyswoND 1]

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[potatoman 0]

I fold some of the time. You're good here some of the time, but you're probably not folding everyone and you're going to be flipping a lot. I don't like risking chips when I don't need to in a sng.

[Mercury69 3]

Shorthanded facing a CO raise and a Button minraise this is an instafistpumpphilhellmuthstyle shove imo.

Yup

[rrumsey 0]

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[Avii 0]

No one takes into account that we are in fact the second biggest stack? BTN is surely stacking of, so we would have to go to a showdown for at least half our stack in this situation?And vs. BTN, our hand is very likely a flip by the way he raised, donkish way to get more action imo.

[SwolyswoND 1]

No, no one is taking it into account, because1) you're shortstacked2) you most certainly can be better than a flip - you think he never has AQ here?3) once in awhile you get a donk who will actually make this play then fold4) even if you are flipping, you will be getting a very good price to do so.

[monix 0]

Interesting spot. Generally I am not looking to flip with so many players left in a STT.I dusted off my ICM calculator to see what the math suggests.I - Hero's equity before the hand is 19.9%II - Folding Scenarios1) If the initial raiser folds, our equity becomes 18.9%If the initial raiser pushes and is called (I'll only do these two scenarios):2) If the initial raiser wins our equity is 20.7%3) If the initial raiser loses our equity is 16.6%III - We push scenarios4) If no one calls our equity becomes 25.1%Initial raiser folds, raiser calls (only two scenarios here as well):5) If we win our equity becomes 29.1%6) If we lose our equity becomes 10.8%Now let’s assign some probabilities and calculate weighted averages::Folding Scenarios1) Pretty likely, say 66%2) I’ll split the difference with the remaining 2; 16%3) 16% Our equity is (18.9% * 66%) + (20.7% * 16%) + (16.6% * 16%) = 18.4%Pushing Scenarios4) Pretty unlikely; say 10%We have to use PokerStove to see what our equity against Villains range is. With that fishy raise let’s assume TT+, AQs, AQo, and Hero is a 51/49 dog (this is about as good as it gets, it we add more pairs and/or eliminate AQ we become a pretty big dog).5) 51%6) 49%Our equity is (25.1%*10%)+(29.1%*51%)+(10.8%*49%) = 22.6%If we remove AQ, the range becomes TT+, AKs, AKo, we become a 59.6/40.4 dog:Our equity is (25.1%*10%)+(29.1%*40.4%)+(10.8%*59.6%) = 20.7%If we remove AK, JJ and TT, the range becomes QQ+, we become a 69.1/30.9 dog:Our equity is (25.1%*10%)+(29.1%*30.9%)+(10.8%*69.1%) = 18.6%SummaryIt all comes down to what range do we put the raiser on, and how we allocate probabilities, but the numbers suggest that a push is +ceV….but it is close. Folding is not much of a mistake.

[TrueAce13 18]

No folding is a horrible move here. We have 19bbs and we have an open. Openers range is a lot wider than you give credit. This is always a shove, no questions...this is a very standard shove, and i think OP knows this

[monix 0]

No folding is a horrible move here. We have 19bbs and we have an open. Openers range is a lot wider than you give credit. This is always a shove, no questions...this is a very standard shove, and i think OP knows this

Ok...suggest a range and do the math to show us folding is horrible.

[TrueAce13 18]

openers range: any pair, A6s+, A9o+, KTs+, KJo plusWe have to remember that the CO raised and the button 3bet, which can a lot of the time be a steal and a lot lighter of a range...but i will narrow it down a little...his is prolly ATs+,99+, and KJs+.We also have to realize that this is a tournament, and like everyone sucks...so they are doing this with a huge range. We have wayyyy more than enough Not to mention the sheer fact that we only have 19bbs and we have AK!

[monix 0]

openers range: any pair, A6s+, A9o+, KTs+, KJo plusWe have to remember that the CO raised and the button 3bet, which can a lot of the time be a steal and a lot lighter of a range...but i will narrow it down a little...his is prolly ATs+,99+, and KJs+.We also have to realize that this is a tournament, and like everyone sucks...so they are doing this with a huge range. We have wayyyy more than enough Not to mention the sheer fact that we only have 19bbs and we have AK!

Pushing AKs pre-flop knocked me out of the Main Event, so I may be biased against it Ok, now do the math with your ranges.

[SwolyswoND 1]

Monix, you're fighting a losing battle here. This is an EZ shove.I don't have time to do the math against those ranges, but it's very very +cEV and +$EV.