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Fox NewsFox News' Brit Hume gave Tiger Woods some personal advice Sunday morning, telling him to 'turn to Christianity' to make a full recovery.Thoughts?More about should a news reporter be telling someone to change their religious views?
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A religious re-commitment couldn't hurt.
True dat but he implied that Tigers current religious faith should be changed.Well...not implied really.... pretty clear."I don't think that faith (Buddhism) offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. My message to Tiger would be, 'Tiger, turn to the Christian faith...."Now... I think most here know my faith but I don't know if it's right for a news reporter to say that to anyone. Even on FOX !How offended would Tim Tebow be if a news reporter said "Ya know...if you didn't write those scripture numbers on your eye thingies, maybe if you would turn to Islam ...maybe Alabama wouldn't have pwned you so bad".
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Brit Hume hasn't been a reporter in years. He's about as journalistic these days as Bill O'Reily or Keith Oberman. He's a "politcal analyst" or commentator, and piping in with his analysis and opinion is his job.

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True dat but he implied that Tigers current religious faith should be changed.Well...not implied really.... pretty clear."I don't think that faith (Buddhism) offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. My message to Tiger would be, 'Tiger, turn to the Christian faith...."
wow, what a douchebag
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I find it ironic that he says the buddhists "faith" doesn't offer the kind of forgiveness that the christian faith does, when the buddhists will be the most tolerant of his ignorant babble.
He's obviously ignorant about Buddhism.If I was the CEO or VIP or HMFIC of any television station... I would strongly discourage any of my employees wearing a microphone from giving religious, political or life style advise. Saying someone should switch religions or stop being gay.... just over the line. Say "I'm going to pray for Tiger" ... OK.. maybe. Saying "Tiger should stop being a Buddhist and become a Christian" ..over the top. "This just in... Ellen DeGeneres ... you are going to burn in Hell if you don't stop being a lesbian, you carpet munching Butch! Also...the DOW Jones dropped 200 points and the Mormons are going to have to answer to God why they picked a circus performer over Jesus Christ. What do you think Ollie?""Bitch gone fry!""Thanks Ollie"
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Religion News is the next big thing. Look how well entertainment news did! I think it's important for shows to have an thinly veiled agenda and the availability of network time for a small fee. It's vital for us to hear about the things that people are willing to pay for us to hear, isn't it? After all, if it wasn't important, why pay to have it heard?

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Woods' Buddhism is getting a lot of fresh attention now with his reference to it during his press conference. [i think a lot of the attention consists of, "he's Buddhist? Who knew?"]I hadn't really given it much thought, because I don't generally believe that religion (even my own) solves a lot of problems. But I think a meditation retreat might help him. A week-long silent retreat, or even a month spent sitting sesshin, which consists of 12 hours a day of silent sitting meditation, broken up with silent walking meditation or yoga, dharma talks, and meetings with teachers (the last two being the only times speaking is allowed).A lot of people who have been on such retreats says there is always a moment in which you "meet the monster," or come face-to-face, in a most intense way, with the monster that is yourself. For many people it is a shattering experience, but as soon as they see that it has happened with you, the monks and nuns work with you and guide you to then make friends with the monster, so that you re-integrate a more honest and more kind relationship with yourself.It might not be that much different from rehab, but could reinforce it by situating a similar message in a context that is less medicalizing, that makes it clear that the monster is not our own failure, but the universal human experience. Everyone around us, no matter how they seem, also has a monster of ego and desires and flaws and judgemental thinking and neurosis inside them, and it is no less and no more than these monster-ridden people who can become enlightened Buddhas.

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Woods' Buddhism is getting a lot of fresh attention now with his reference to it during his press conference. [i think a lot of the attention consists of, "he's Buddhist? Who knew?"]I hadn't really given it much thought, because I don't generally believe that religion (even my own) solves a lot of problems. But I think a meditation retreat might help him. A week-long silent retreat, or even a month spent sitting sesshin, which consists of 12 hours a day of silent sitting meditation, broken up with silent walking meditation or yoga, dharma talks, and meetings with teachers (the last two being the only times speaking is allowed).A lot of people who have been on such retreats says there is always a moment in which you "meet the monster," or come face-to-face, in a most intense way, with the monster that is yourself. For many people it is a shattering experience, but as soon as they see that it has happened with you, the monks and nuns work with you and guide you to then make friends with the monster, so that you re-integrate a more honest and more kind relationship with yourself.It might not be that much different from rehab, but could reinforce it by situating a similar message in a context that is less medicalizing, that makes it clear that the monster is not our own failure, but the universal human experience. Everyone around us, no matter how they seem, also has a monster of ego and desires and flaws and judgemental thinking and neurosis inside them, and it is no less and no more than these monster-ridden people who can become enlightened Buddhas.
This fluffy metaphorical claptrap with monsters and "inner self" bullshit is why buddhism will never truly catch on in America or with the skeptical, cynical, critical thinking types who would align with it the most. People will get the impression, rightly in the case of a vast majority of these American weekend retreat buddha tourists, of hippy-eqsue ugly people in SEARS quality loose fitting and colorful clothing sitting around some faggoty garden somewhere talking about their mystical feelings of love and unity. Who then go back to their manager position at Kinkos and talk about how reinvigorated they are from their superficial and Mysto-faggot experience with the demons of the inner over the weekend before going on and getting violently drunk and smacking their wife once or twice. Or maybe just continue on living in quiet sadness and unremarkable, joyless mediocrity while professing some "spiritual" growth or wisdom. Or, worse, carry on with a creepy and off-putting, power-crystal wearing, "kindness and compassion" demeanor reeking of stupidity and dorkyness.
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You're hardcore Zen -- just sit, no goal, no nothing. Just sit.I love Zen, but I don't think the softer schools like Theravada or Vipassana are necessarily wrong -- I love me some Pema Chodron, too. I don't think Americans will be ready for Zen until they've at least tasted the other schools (and "tasting" is all Americans do with their consumerist version of faith). It's not a doctrine anywhere, but personally, I think of Zen as the top-level school -- you need (or may need) to go through the other schools first. If you can handle Zen right off the bat, more power to you, but the other schools can prepare you for Zen.

going on and getting violently drunk and smacking their wife once or twice. Or maybe just continue on living in quiet sadness and unremarkable, joyless mediocrity
Or banging a hundred whores and porn stars while banking millions.
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Or banging a hundred whores and porn stars while banking millions.
If that's the middle path, sign me up.Shit, the middle path is Taoist isn't it?To live is to suffer, the source of all man's suffering is his attachment to banging pornstars?
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I heard of a man who went to a Zen Buddhist monastery where he was not permitted to speak at all for one year, at the end of the year he was permitted only two words if he wanted to stay.After the first year he came before the head zen dude and uttered his two words: "Bed hard"Then he spent another year, followed by his meeting with the head zen dude and this time he said: "Food cold"Then he spent one more year, and when he came before the head zen guy he said: "I'm leaving"The zen dude said: "I'm not surprised, you've done nothing but complain since you got here"

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I heard of a man who went to a Zen Buddhist monastery where he was not permitted to speak at all for one year, at the end of the year he was permitted only two words if he wanted to stay.After the first year he came before the head zen dude and uttered his two words: "Bed hard"Then he spent another year, followed by his meeting with the head zen dude and this time he said: "Food cold"Then he spent one more year, and when he came before the head zen guy he said: "I'm leaving"The zen dude said: "I'm not surprised, you've done nothing but complain since you got here"
Nothing wrong with a little comic relief to break the tension.
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Nothing wrong with a little comic relief to break the tension.
We were tense?Anyway, Fox News saw fit to educate their viewers a little about Buddhism. Good quotes from Robert Thurman and Charles Prebish -- they went to some real experts. And good for Tiger to ignore Hume.
Tiger Woods' Apology Also Sheds Light on His Buddhist FaithDisgraced golf superstar Tiger Woods cited the role of Buddhism in his life -- and will look to it to help him recover from serial infidelityMIAMI, Fla. -- In the theater of American public apologies, it's common for celebrities to invoke their faith.Disgraced golf superstar Tiger Woods did it Friday, in fact, with a twist. He cited the role of Buddhism in his life -- and will look to it to help him recover from serial infidelity."People probably don't realize it, but I was raised a Buddhist, and I actively practiced my faith from childhood until I drifted away from it in recent years," Woods said during Friday's televised apology, his first public appearance in nearly three months.It was Woods' most direct reference to his beliefs yet.In a few previous interviews, Woods said he had practiced mediation and had attended temple with his mother. He has credited her, and her Thai Buddhism, with giving him the focus needed on the golf course and throughout his life.His latest comments reflected the Buddhist teachings about desire, craving and attachment -- and balance."In therapy I've learned the importance of looking at my spiritual life and keeping in balance with my professional life," Woods said. "I need to regain my balance and be centered so I can save the things that are most important to me, my marriage and my children."Religion often comes into play for public figures seeking redemption from scandal before the cameras. Bill Clinton invoked God when he asked for constituents' forgiveness, as did South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford. But in this country, the religion in question is typically Christianity.In January, Fox News analyst Brit Hume said Woods should turn to Jesus to deal with his sins. Woods' statement on his religion seemed to some as sort of a rebuke to the public debate stoked by Hume over Buddhism versus Christianity."He was reaffirming his own family's tradition," said Robert Thurman, a professor of Buddhist studies at Columbia University. "It was nice to see him standing his ground in the sense that Buddhism is a minority religion."Buddhists look to themselves as they work to lead an ethical life. There is no one divinity who can bestow redemption as in Christianity."Buddhism offers the opportunity to be Buddha, if we do the work. It's already there, it's who we are," said Darren Littlejohn, a Buddhist and Portland, Ore.-based author of "The 12 Step Buddhist," a book about addiction recovery. He said Woods' comments reflected the Buddhist belief that "life is suffering. It's based on attachment, anger and desire."Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, was born a wealthy prince 2,500 years ago. Upon realizing that suffering, sickness and death happen to every human being, the young prince vowed to seek enlightenment. Years of meditating taught the Buddha to realize that attachment, greed and desire are the root of all suffering, and that letting go of those things is the key to a peaceful life -- and the path to ending the cycle of discomfort altogether.Woods addressed this so called samsara -- the Sanskrit word for the cycle of suffering -- during his news conference."Buddhism teaches that a craving for things outside ourselves causes an unhappy and pointless search for security," he said. "It teaches me to stop following every impulse and to learn restraint. Obviously I lost track of what I was taught."If Buddhists do violate certain precepts -- killing, stealing and sexual misconduct among them -- then they are subject to the law of karma."What people need to understand about karma is that it is based entirely on volitional action," said Charles Prebish, a Buddhist studies professor at Utah State. "If one chooses to do an act that is morally inappropriate, then one will reap the rewards. In Tiger Woods' case, one could say that some of those repercussions seem to be immediate. The negative karma that he accrued is starting to bear fruit."Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion professor and the author of "Religious Literacy: What Americans Need to Know," said Woods' statements showed an introspective look at his predicament and how his faith will help him assume responsibility to cure his sexual cravings."Buddhists believe there are various reasons why we suffer, and the main one Buddhists focus on is craving," Prothero said. "The endless desire for things is such an important teaching to Americans -- if we just had that thing, that girl, that car, that house, we'd be satisfied. That would seem to affect celebrities even more."
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Also, I know this will convince BG that Buddhism can't be good...

Dalai Lama admits he has never heard of Tiger Woods The Dalai Lama has revealed that, unlike the rest of the world, he has no idea who Tiger Woods is. The world's most famous golfer made a public apology on Friday for having cheated on his wife with a string of women, and said he was returning to the Buddhist faith he had practised as a child.But the world's most famous Buddhist leader said he did not who the sportsman was. Speaking in Los Angeles, the self-effacing exiled Tibetan monk called his own lack of knowledge about sports of all kinds "my disgrace". Having been filled in on some of the details of Woods' philandering, he said self-discipline is among Buddhism's highest values and, when it comes to adultery, all religions "have the same idea".The Dalai Lama said: "I think mainly whether you call it Buddhism or another religion, self-discipline, that's important. Self-discipline with awareness of consequences."In his apology, which was televised worldwide, Woods said he had "lost track" of his Buddhist faith in recent years.He said: "I have a lot of work to do and intend to dedicate myself to doing it. Part of this is Buddhism. Buddhism teaches me to stop following every impulse and to know restraint. Obviously I lost track of what I was taught."
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http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020726.html
In Reel Life: Carl tells a caddie that he once carried clubs for the Dalai Lama in Tibet. "So I jump ship in Hong Kong and make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddie, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself ... So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one -- big hitter, the Lama -- long, into a 10,000 foot crevice, right at the base of this glacier. And do you know what the Lama says? 'Gunga galunga, gunga -- gunga galunga.'"In Real Life: The Dalai Lama's not a golfer. But when the Tibetan leader visited the United States last year, Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura asked him if he'd ever seen "Caddyshack." He told Ventura he hadn't seen the movie. But, Ventura said, "Before he [the Dalai Lama] left, he looked at me and said, 'Gunga, gunga la-gunga'."
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You are a terrible troll alt.Just terrible.
Speaking of trolls, there are some guys throwing hanging curveballs high in the zone in the pseudo-politics forum. Just sayin'.
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Speaking of trolls, there are some guys throwing hanging curveballs high in the zone in the pseudo-politics forum. Just sayin'.
I keep meaning to go spit reason laden venom in that section, but the stupidity and hypocrisy (intentional and not) is so fucking overwhelming that I just never feel like devoting the time and finger movement necessary to start shutting it down.
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