Ben_G 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Full tilt sit and go rake makes me hate life...... just throwing that out there Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Full tilt sit and go rake makes me hate life...... just throwing that out thereIt's better than Stars, isn't it?I also don't like the structure on Tilt. Stars gives you more time at the lowest blind levels than Tilt because Tilt progresses through more levels. Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Ditto on flatting the JJ hand. Early levels are all about preserving chips. If you haven't already done so, read Moshman's book on SnGs. He provides some great mathematical analysis showing how the risk of playing big pots early greatly outweighs the benefit. The concept of tournament equity is very important and is a big part of why SnG play is so different from cash game play.this guy knows his stuff.doubling up early in a sng is so unimportant. we want to preserve our chips so bad early so that our shoves on the bubble have fold equity. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 It's better than Stars, isn't it?I also don't like the structure on Tilt. Stars gives you more time at the lowest blind levels than Tilt because Tilt progresses through more levels.I was playing the $11+1 on FT and the $14+1 super turbos. Basically it's 9.1% & 7.1% for the supers. The supers should be a lot lower because they don't last very long at all.On stars I'm playing the $15+1 (6.6%) and will probably be moving up to the $25+2 (8%). So yeah, FTP is higher comparing turbos to turbos. I wish all stars sngs were like the $15+1s though. That's super low. Link to post Share on other sites
Ben_G 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I was playing the $11+1 on FT and the $14+1 super turbos. Basically it's 9.1% & 7.1% for the supers. The supers should be a lot lower because they don't last very long at all.On stars I'm playing the $15+1 (6.6%) and will probably be moving up to the $25+2 (8%). So yeah, FTP is higher comparing turbos to turbos. I wish all stars sngs were like the $15+1s though. That's super low.Ya the lower limits on tilt are gross.....2.25? thats just sick Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Ya the lower limits on tilt are gross.....2.25? thats just sickThe $3.40s on stars are worse though. Link to post Share on other sites
Eba12 0 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 depends how big the tourney u enter isanyone knows rake on cash games? Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Anyone ever grinded Heads-Up SNG's? How light are you calling a shovemonkey who is going all-in every hand? I'm usually willing to call with any pair, A2-AK and pretty much any two face cards. Does this seem about right? Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I was playing the $11+1 on FT and the $14+1 super turbos. Basically it's 9.1% & 7.1% for the supers. The supers should be a lot lower because they don't last very long at all.Super turbos? Is that like 30 second blind levels? Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 This is a 90 man, regular speed SNG. Is this line standard, or should I have just kept it small?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t1905)UTG+1 (t4210)MP1 (t3750)MP2 (t1273)MP3 (t2467)CO (t2120)Button (t2750)SB (t6170)Hero (BB) (t1945)Hero's M: 32.42Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 51 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 2 folds, MP3 calls t40, 2 folds, SB calls t20, Hero checksFlop: (t160) A, K, 4(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets t120, 1 fold, MP3 raises to t240, 1 fold, Hero raises to t760, MP3 raises to t1280, Hero raises to t1905 (All-In) Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 This is a 90 man, regular speed SNG. Is this line standard, or should I have just kept it small?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t1905)UTG+1 (t4210)MP1 (t3750)MP2 (t1273)MP3 (t2467)CO (t2120)Button (t2750)SB (t6170)Hero (BB) (t1945)Hero's M: 32.42Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 51 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 2 folds, MP3 calls t40, 2 folds, SB calls t20, Hero checksFlop: (t160) A, K, 4(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets t120, 1 fold, MP3 raises to t240, 1 fold, Hero raises to t760, MP3 raises to t1280, Hero raises to t1905 (All-In) TP+NFD there is no need to keep it small. I suppose you could be up against a set of 4's but you can't play scared of that one possibility. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2077)BB (t3710)UTG (t575)MP (t5728)Hero (Button) (t2910)Hero's M: 4.01Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 82 folds, Hero ???The tiny stack has been sitting out. Push or dump? Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Anyone ever grinded Heads-Up SNG's? How light are you calling a shovemonkey who is going all-in every hand? I'm usually willing to call with any pair, A2-AK and pretty much any two face cards. Does this seem about right?That seems reasonable, although try to avoid these players once you find one since it's hard to make money when you are flipping more times than not. Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2077)BB (t3710)UTG (t575)MP (t5728)Hero (Button) (t2910)Hero's M: 4.01Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 82 folds, Hero ???The tiny stack has been sitting out. Push or dump?Assuming you need to top 3 to make money the short stack is pretty irrelevant, this is probably a ship Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Double Post. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2077)BB (t3710)UTG (t575)MP (t5728)Hero (Button) (t2910)Hero's M: 4.01Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 82 folds, Hero ???The tiny stack has been sitting out. Push or dump?Any idea on calling ranges from the blinds?I probably shovel. Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 This is a 90 man, regular speed SNG. Is this line standard, or should I have just kept it small?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t1905)UTG+1 (t4210)MP1 (t3750)MP2 (t1273)MP3 (t2467)CO (t2120)Button (t2750)SB (t6170)Hero (BB) (t1945)Hero's M: 32.42Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 51 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 2 folds, MP3 calls t40, 2 folds, SB calls t20, Hero checksFlop: (t160) A, K, 4(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets t120, 1 fold, MP3 raises to t240, 1 fold, Hero raises to t760, MP3 raises to t1280, Hero raises to t1905 (All-In) more of a fan of check raising here, we have the nuts here pretty much!PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2077)BB (t3710)UTG (t575)MP (t5728)Hero (Button) (t2910)Hero's M: 4.01Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 82 folds, Hero ???The tiny stack has been sitting out. Push or dump?if you shipped, nh Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Any idea on calling ranges from the blinds?Hard to say. I'd guess pretty tight for the BB, since he's sitting 2nd and wouldn't want to cripple himself here, but SB is the wildcard. He needs to make something happen soon or he's going to get blinded out. I don't have enough of a read on him to say whether he's the kind of player who would simply be scared about calling all in, giving him a tight range, or whether he would realize he should be calling wide-ish. Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Absolute/UB Cereus No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (8 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP1 (t2180)MP2 (t1730)Hero (CO) (t1240)Button (t780)SB (t560)BB (t3055)UTG (t2155)UTG+1 (t1800)Hero's M: 13.78Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 91 fold, UTG+1 calls t60, 2 folds, Hero calls t60, 1 fold, SB raises to t560 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t500, Hero ???This is a micro STT and is regular speed. Is my flat OK or should I be raising with 2 players in ship/fold mode? With an all-in and flat by UTG+1 is this an easy fold or should I get it in now? SB has been playing very tight and UTG+1 is a total donk so he could have ATC. Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Sorry the FTR hand converter was messed up for me. This is similar to the previous hand I posted. STT, no solid reads makes this easy fold?PokerStars Game #37899096255: Tournament #230370083, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/09 13:35:05 ETTable '230370083 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 2: RakeMyBlind (1275 in chips) Seat 3: sincor (960 in chips) Seat 4: EddieO13 (1325 in chips) Seat 5: steelfishn (2575 in chips) Seat 6: fluzony (1310 in chips) Seat 7: huesi007 (3350 in chips) Seat 8: slick0ne (1200 in chips) Seat 9: Masoch88 (1505 in chips) RakeMyBlind: posts small blind 25sincor: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to RakeMyBlind [9h 9d]EddieO13: folds steelfishn: folds fluzony: folds huesi007: raises 100 to 150slick0ne: folds Masoch88: folds RakeMyBlind: calls 125sincor: raises 810 to 960 and is all-inhuesi007: raises 810 to 1770RakeMyBlind: folds Uncalled bet (810) returned to huesi007 Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Super turbos? Is that like 30 second blind levels?3 min levels, 300 chip stacks. 10bb to start. They are great math games, unfortunately the variance was a bit too much for my liking. Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 @RakeMyBlind you played both of those 99 hands fine, no point to play big pots multiway with them Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 3 min levels, 300 chip stacks. 10bb to start. They are great math games, unfortunately the variance was a bit too much for my liking.LOL, what's with people slowplaying AK in these? I've played 2 and twice I've seen people limp AK preflop. I have to admit they're fun, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 LOL, what's with people slowplaying AK in these? I've played 2 and twice I've seen people limp AK preflop. I have to admit they're fun, though.People in micros love to limp with monster hands to catch someone raising/shipping with worse hands. Even in obvious ship positions like every hand in a hyper/super turbo Link to post Share on other sites
slink 1 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 3 min levels, 300 chip stacks. 10bb to start. They are great math games, unfortunately the variance was a bit too much for my liking.What should we/I be opening with differently than a regular 9 man SNG (assuming it's still very early in the trny)? Or is there any difference? Link to post Share on other sites
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