jmbreslin 0 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 You don't? 5-7 BBs is the general area more than 10 BBs.No, 5BB is really short. Are you sure you're not thinking M rather than BB? 10BB is pretty standard as push/fold territory. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Meh in turbo MTT SnGs towards and beyond the bubble you very often find yourself and much of the field in the 5-10 BB area. Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 No, 5BB is really short. Are you sure you're not thinking M rather than BB? 10BB is pretty standard as push/fold territory.lol?try surviving using 10BB as your barometer @ 200/400+ blinds in 45 mans and let me know how that goes for you. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Solid start to the years SnG grind Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 lol 36/180s Link to post Share on other sites
Mills 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 hey friends, nice thread.I'm gonna try to start a STT grind at 3.40... how many buyins should I start with? Also, how many buyins do you reco in general for a particular level.thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 hey friends, nice thread.I'm gonna try to start a STT grind at 3.40... how many buyins should I start with? Also, how many buyins do you reco in general for a particular level.thanks.MTTs the usual rule of thumb is no more than 5% of your bankroll, due to higher variance in SnG's I would say no more than 1 or 2 percent, but I'm a nit.Have at least 50 buy-ins for the level you want to move up to. Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Solid start to the years SnG grindNice cash sir. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Nice cash sir.Puts me in the green for 36 180s lifetime after an 80 buy in downswing from my peak. Gonna try to play quite a few this year since they are great for offsetting MTT variance. Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 MTTs the usual rule of thumb is no more than 5% of your bankroll, due to higher variance in SnG's I would say no more than 1 or 2 percent, but I'm a nit.Have at least 50 buy-ins for the level you want to move up to.No. Both are at maximum 2.5%. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Unless it's a one off, 100 buy ins at an absolute minimum for MTTs. I like 200. Depends on the level though.For STTs, 40 is fine as long as you are flexible and competent. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 try surviving using 10BB as your barometer @ 200/400+ blinds in 45 mans and let me know how that goes for you.Okay, I see what you mean. Your post sounded like you make a deliberate choice to wait until 5BB to push, which is very different from finding yourself at 5BB because of high blinds and lack of opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Fine, fine.Do you shove this?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB (t2425)UTG (t3920)Hero (MP) (t2880)Button (t3655)SB (t2120)Hero's M: 3.97Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, Q1 fold, Hero??? Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Fine, fine.Do you shove this?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB (t2425)UTG (t3920)Hero (MP) (t2880)Button (t3655)SB (t2120)Hero's M: 3.97Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, Q1 fold, Hero???No but it's just outside of my range. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 $3 9 man bubbleSB is standard TAG. He hasn't done anything like this before, and has not been out of line the entire time.Probably really nitty, but hopefully I can learn something from it.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t2190)Hero (Button) (t4710)SB (t3780)BB (t2820)Hero's M: 31.40Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K1 fold, Hero bets t300, SB calls t250, BB calls t200Flop: (t900) 8, Q, 10(3 players)SB bets t3480 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero foldsTotal pot: t900 Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 $3 9 man bubbleSB is standard TAG. He hasn't done anything like this before, and has not been out of line the entire time.Probably really nitty, but hopefully I can learn something from it.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t2190)Hero (Button) (t4710)SB (t3780)BB (t2820)Hero's M: 31.40Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K1 fold, Hero bets t300, SB calls t250, BB calls t200Flop: (t900) 8, Q, 10(3 players)SB bets t3480 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero foldsTotal pot: t900only hand that makes sense that he has is AQ/KQ/QJ and you have him crushed. I'm snapping all day no way I'm folding an overpair on that flop with that PF action to someone I have covered. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 only hand that makes sense that he has is AQ/KQ/QJ and you have him crushed. I'm snapping all day no way I'm folding an overpair on that flop with that PF action to someone I have covered.i thought about those hands, but also threw in Q10 and 810 as well.just felt really weird, and as more of a cash game player, im just getting into sngs. i've been watching amt's "last man standing" series on DC. on ep 3 right now.played 4 tonight when i got home (this being one of them). cashed in 3 (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) Link to post Share on other sites
Acekob 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Fine, fine.Do you shove this?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB (t2425)UTG (t3920)Hero (MP) (t2880)Button (t3655)SB (t2120)Hero's M: 3.97Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, Q1 fold, Hero???Thats close imo, you allways fold this Lurbz?$3 9 man bubbleSB is standard TAG. He hasn't done anything like this before, and has not been out of line the entire time.Probably really nitty, but hopefully I can learn something from it.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t2190)Hero (Button) (t4710)SB (t3780)BB (t2820)Hero's M: 31.40Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K1 fold, Hero bets t300, SB calls t250, BB calls t200Flop: (t900) 8, Q, 10(3 players)SB bets t3480 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero foldsTotal pot: t900Snapship any day Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Thats close imo, you allways fold this Lurbz?Snapship any dayHero in EP and 3/5. If I'm 5/5 maybe I'm shipping here but 3/5 we have better spots to find. Link to post Share on other sites
Acekob 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 PokerStars Game #37731155070: Tournament #229206306, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/06 7:48:30 ETTable '229206306 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Acekob (3020 in chips) Seat 2: MJDolie (1385 in chips) is sitting outSeat 4: papatjulo (2375 in chips) Seat 5: joeyjojo25 (485 in chips) Seat 6: ChenDirk (1415 in chips) Seat 7: VidrikVello (2440 in chips) Seat 8: imiha (865 in chips) Seat 9: Corpsey (1515 in chips) papatjulo: posts small blind 25joeyjojo25: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Acekob [Qh Ah]ChenDirk: folds VidrikVello: folds imiha: raises 815 to 865 and is all-inCorpsey: folds Acekob:I often find these spots though without any reads or pokertoolsI don't see why he would shove just to pick up the blinds since he still go an "ok" stack; range pp and AT+ ?PokerStars Game #37732061385: Tournament #229206306, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2010/01/06 8:21:30 ETTable '229206306 4' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: jables20 (3380 in chips) Seat 3: franckttank (4175 in chips) Seat 4: MJDolie (2366 in chips) Seat 5: Acekob (6305 in chips) Seat 6: papatjulo (6214 in chips) Seat 7: Jess Daniels (5230 in chips) Seat 8: Corpsey (4970 in chips) Seat 9: selyodka1 (6006 in chips) jables20: posts the ante 50franckttank: posts the ante 50MJDolie: posts the ante 50Acekob: posts the ante 50papatjulo: posts the ante 50Jess Daniels: posts the ante 50Corpsey: posts the ante 50selyodka1: posts the ante 50Jess Daniels: posts small blind 300Corpsey: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Acekob [As Th]selyodka1: folds jables20: folds franckttank: folds MJDolie: folds Acekob: Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 PokerStars Game #37731155070: Tournament #229206306, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/06 7:48:30 ETTable '229206306 5' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Acekob (3020 in chips) Seat 2: MJDolie (1385 in chips) is sitting outSeat 4: papatjulo (2375 in chips) Seat 5: joeyjojo25 (485 in chips) Seat 6: ChenDirk (1415 in chips) Seat 7: VidrikVello (2440 in chips) Seat 8: imiha (865 in chips) Seat 9: Corpsey (1515 in chips) papatjulo: posts small blind 25joeyjojo25: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Acekob [Qh Ah]ChenDirk: folds VidrikVello: folds imiha: raises 815 to 865 and is all-inCorpsey: folds Acekob:I often find these spots though without any reads or pokertoolsI don't see why he would shove just to pick up the blinds since he still go an "ok" stack; range pp and AT+ ?PokerStars Game #37732061385: Tournament #229206306, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2010/01/06 8:21:30 ETTable '229206306 4' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: jables20 (3380 in chips) Seat 3: franckttank (4175 in chips) Seat 4: MJDolie (2366 in chips) Seat 5: Acekob (6305 in chips) Seat 6: papatjulo (6214 in chips) Seat 7: Jess Daniels (5230 in chips) Seat 8: Corpsey (4970 in chips) Seat 9: selyodka1 (6006 in chips) jables20: posts the ante 50franckttank: posts the ante 50MJDolie: posts the ante 50Acekob: posts the ante 50papatjulo: posts the ante 50Jess Daniels: posts the ante 50Corpsey: posts the ante 50selyodka1: posts the ante 50Jess Daniels: posts small blind 300Corpsey: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Acekob [As Th]selyodka1: folds jables20: folds franckttank: folds MJDolie: folds Acekob:Hand 1, I probably pass seeing as it's still fairly early. I iso with AK TT+. I'd be tempted though because of your stack size.Hand 2, I'm shipping. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Hero in EP and 3/5. If I'm 5/5 maybe I'm shipping here but 3/5 we have better spots to find.Even though Hero's M is about 4 and he's about to get hit by the blinds in two hands? Clearly it's a borderline hand, which is why I posted it. I folded, but I'm wondering how close it might be. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 i thought about those hands, but also threw in Q10 and 810 as well.There are so many hands in his range besides the ones that have you beat. It's a very strange move for a TAG to make, I'll admit, but it would also be very strange for him to shove a hand that flopped big here. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Hand 1, I probably pass seeing as it's still fairly early. I iso with AK TT+. I'd be tempted though because of your stack size.Hand 2, I'm shipping.Hand 1: I'd pass, you're behind his range and losing the 900-ish chips will hurt your tournament equity more than winning the 900 will boost it.Hand 2: Wow, still almost a full table at 300/600? With about 10BB in CO I'm shipping AT. You don't want to risk a standard raise getting called and then having to play postflop here. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Heh, i'd prob shove the QT. Really not that great at STTs though.I imagine it's extremely close. As close as -Q9o is a fold, QTs is a shove. Link to post Share on other sites
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