SBriand 4 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I'm actually glad I stopped watching this show, just reading this thread is giving me a migraine trying to follow it. Maybe I'll Netflix if you guys are pleased with the ending and think the questions get answered, if people are pissed because it's still ambiguous at the end then I'll probably spare myself.Yeah right now I am just watching because I haven't missed on yet. I should have stopped watching early season 3 when they were boring the hell out of me. But sadly the second half of season 3 dragged me back in.Edit: On theories or such though, I was at dinner with my wife and mom the other night and we got into a big Lost discussion and it go so big that the waitstaff and such got into it with us and after much discussion I stated that maybe the alt timeline is what would have happened if Jacob had not touched their lives. Everyone freaked out. So I guess that might be something. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I stated that maybe the alt timeline is what would have happened if Jacob had not touched their lives. Everyone freaked out. So I guess that might be something.doesn't work. the "alt" (which i think is the real timeline reset with jughead in 77 or looping somehow) is full of differences not involving the candidates. also hurley and sayid hadn't even met jacob yet at the current time in the alt, yet their lives are very different. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 doesn't work. the "alt" (which i think is the real timeline reset with jughead in 77 or looping somehow) is full of differences not involving the candidates. also hurley and sayid hadn't even met jacob yet at the current time in the alt, yet their lives are very different.If Jacob wasn't around to "touch" people then I don't think it is a "TV stretch" to have other things be different other than the specific candidates. But you clearly care more about it than me. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Yeah right now I am just watching because I haven't missed on yet. I should have stopped watching early season 3 when they were boring the hell out of me. But sadly the second half of season 3 dragged me back in.I stopped watching after Charlie got killed off and the whole "Oceanic 6" storyline was going on, I don't know when that was though. The first two seasons of Lost were absolutely awesome, can't miss TV but then they kinda got complacent and I felt like they were adding a ton of mystery and subplots just to keep things running longer. Like you said, I just got bored with trying to keep up, felt like there were too many episodes that were just obvious throwaways. I like the current premise of having these big mysterious shows only run for one or two long seasons, kind of like an extended miniseries (see: Life on Mars, Flash Forward). State the problem, then spend 24 episodes resolving it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I'm actually glad I stopped watching this show, just reading this thread is giving me a migraine trying to follow it. Maybe I'll Netflix if you guys are pleased with the ending and think the questions get answered, if people are pissed because it's still ambiguous at the end then I'll probably spare myself. I stopped watching after Charlie got killed off and the whole "Oceanic 6" storyline was going on, I don't know when that was though. The first two seasons of Lost were absolutely awesome, can't miss TV but then they kinda got complacent and I felt like they were adding a ton of mystery and subplots just to keep things running longer. Like you said, I just got bored with trying to keep up, felt like there were too many episodes that were just obvious throwaways. I like the current premise of having these big mysterious shows only run for one or two long seasons, kind of like an extended miniseries (see: Life on Mars, Flash Forward). State the problem, then spend 24 episodes resolving it.I stopped watching every episode after this as well. I was hoping the show at least kept some sort of resemblance of believability, but it's just completely lost me. I am glad that I stopped watching after the creators disclosed that many many plotlines will never be disclosed, even after the show. The last thing I remember reading (source) said that the creators don't plan to do any follow-ups to answer questions or close plot holes etc. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 If Jacob wasn't around to "touch" people then I don't think it is a "TV stretch" to have other things be different other than the specific candidates.it's wouldn't be a stretch in terms of typical TV plot nonsense, i just think it's clear that's not the direction the producers are going. all the differences in the alt are meant to indicate it's something more significant than just what-if-jacob-didn't-interfere land. they are there for a reason.But you clearly care more about it than me. i'm obsessed. help me. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 "Believable" is too contextual...Applying it to LOST is kind of silly. Electromagnetismic time-displacement? Good vs Evil? In case it hasn't occured to some people, this is a science fiction show and socio-religious themes are quite common in that genre.Whether you like it or not is another thing. Maybe it's too bad the producers didn't call you to see what you like for breakfast, but saying something is bad because you don't like the taste is supremely subjective. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 "Believable" is too contextual...Applying it to LOST is kind of silly. Electromagnetismic time-displacement? Good vs Evil? In case it hasn't occured to some people, this is a science fiction show and socio-religious themes are quite common in that genre.Whether you like it or not is another thing. Maybe it's too bad the producers didn't call you to see what you like for breakfast, but saying something is bad because you don't like the taste is supremely subjective.My point was, that a plane crash with survivors is a long shot, but not out of (my) realm of believability. I can only suspend that for so long. The time travel, alternate timelines etc are just too much for me, and take it completely and totally out of the realm of believability, which was a factor in my initial viewing.Of course, I'm speaking from a position of not watching many recent episodes. I don't know if the disappearing island, smoke monsters etc have been explained to (my) satisfaction. It doesn't matter, I was just explaining my reasoning for ceasing to watch on a regular basis.Nice flag you hippy Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 My point was, that a plane crash with survivors is a long shot, but not out of (my) realm of believability. I can only suspend that for so long. The time travel, alternate timelines etc are just too much for me, and take it completely and totally out of the realm of believability, which was a factor in my initial viewing.Of course, I'm speaking from a position of not watching many recent episodes. I don't know if the disappearing island, smoke monsters etc have been explained to (my) satisfaction. It doesn't matter, I was just explaining my reasoning for ceasing to watch on a regular basis.Nice flag you hippy Lol...hey, maaaaan! Yeah,. not trying to bust anyone's balls in particular, just trying to lend a little more angle to one of the greatest shows of the past decade. I can totally understand why some people would be turned off by LOST. I, for one, cannot stand Drinky Crow, for example, and I'm really tired of shows that use pop culture references as a crutch (I'm looking at you Family Guy et al). I never cottoned on the 24 and 95% of other network shows, so I'm pretty picky, so I'm just saying I hears ya. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 i'm obsessed. help me.I can't. I have my own obsessions to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I stopped watching every episode after this as well. I was hoping the show at least kept some sort of resemblance of believability, but it's just completely lost me. I am glad that I stopped watching after the creators disclosed that many many plotlines will never be disclosed, even after the show. The last thing I remember reading (source) said that the creators don't plan to do any follow-ups to answer questions or close plot holes etc.I take this to mean that the creators and writers don't have a friggin' clue what's going on either. LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I take this to mean that the creators and writers don't have a friggin' clue what's going on either. LOL.I think the issue is that they knew all along where they were going but it is easier to create the story and get it going and now that it is time to explain everything it doesn't work in this medium. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I take this to mean that the creators and writers don't have a friggin' clue what's going on either. LOL. I think the issue is that they knew all along where they were going but it is easier to create the story and get it going and now that it is time to explain everything it doesn't work in this medium.I feel that they might have had a basic idea of where the story would go. I don't believe that they intended from the start to stop specific plotlines and whatnot. I think they probably had lots of ideas, and needed side plots etc. I would imagine it is quite difficult to plan a tv show storyline for 6 seasons and perfectly plan out the plot. Look at whats-her-butt who had to quit for DUIs. The writers had to figure out a explanation for her, which they may or may not have planned already.I'm just saying that I think they knew that they wouldn't solve everything, but they'd try.I just got pissed when I read (source) that they didn't even plan on answering unsolved plot questions after the fact. No after show special, no blogs with spoilers or end stories, nothing to answer the questions raised by unresolved plot lines. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 this is likely a MASSIVE spoiler if true. read at your own peril. one of the last scenes takes place in Hell. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Wait, who had DUI's? Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 this is likely a MASSIVE spoiler if true. read at your own peril. one of the last scenes takes place in Hell. the source that came from doesn't specify if it is meant literally Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Wait, who had DUI's?there was a rumor that Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros (Ana Lucia, Libby) were both written out in season 2 because of DUI's in hawaii. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I am not sure about Libby but Michelle from what I remember only had a one year contract to begin with, hence she has never been on the show since unlike Libby.I read somewhere that Eco was supposed to be a big part of the story but his ability to be hated by his costars ended that. Link to post Share on other sites
coug2828 8 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I am not sure about Libby but Michelle from what I remember only had a one year contract to begin with, hence she has never been on the show since unlike Libby.I read somewhere that Eco was supposed to be a big part of the story but his ability to be hated by his costars ended that.she was on an episode in season 5 i think it was, hurley saw her ghost or some crap after sayid busted him out of the mental hospital Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I am not sure about Libby but Michelle from what I remember only had a one year contract to begin with, hence she has never been on the show since unlike Libby.I read somewhere that Eco was supposed to be a big part of the story but his ability to be hated by his costars ended that.I think Bill Simmons had written once that Mr. Eko was originally supposed to be the Man in Black concept, but he didn't like Hawaii and wanted out of his contract. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I think Bill Simmons had written once that Mr. Eko was originally supposed to be the Man in Black concept, but he didn't like Hawaii and wanted out of his contract.Probably because he was an ahole and none of the other actors liked him. Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Probably because he was an ahole and none of the other actors liked him.I'm not getting a source until you do.It's unfortunate that his character was so badass, either way. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 My point was, that a plane crash with survivors is a long shot, but not out of (my) realm of believability. I can only suspend that for so long. The time travel, alternate timelines etc are just too much for me, and take it completely and totally out of the realm of believability, which was a factor in my initial viewing.Of course, I'm speaking from a position of not watching many recent episodes. I don't know if the disappearing island, smoke monsters etc have been explained to (my) satisfaction. It doesn't matter, I was just explaining my reasoning for ceasing to watch on a regular basis.Nice flag you hippyThat's weird. I could've sworn you were a Lost nuthugger Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 whats with the rerun?? Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 whats with the rerun??GO HABS GO!!! Link to post Share on other sites
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