dabetka 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Does anyone have a clue on how much this is for? I find it odd, because it seems like DN almost always discusses his bets (besides golf) but not on the size of this one. I know there will be some real neet reply's but I just wondered if any of the main guys on here had any idea on this.....Happy final table. Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 $137,564 worth of pottery Link to post Share on other sites
dabetka 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 $137,564 worth of potteryFirst neet reply Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 id assume it would be for a nice sum since its a must win, ill guess 250k and if someone is freerolling into hu there will be a 75k buy out Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 a lot Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 id assume it would be for a nice sum since its a must win, ill guess 250k and if someone is freerolling into hu there will be a 75k buy outI don't even know where to start, but..1) That's kind of a random # you came up with2) Let's say it actually is 250k, then you can't just assume that someone would be able to buy out for 75k. It would obv depend on stack sizes, but assuming equal stacks, there's no way the guy whose horse is still running would let the other guy buyout for 75k when he's got 125k equity (assuming the players left are equal), which they wouldn't be because Phil would be a huge fave HU over anyone, and Moon would be a big dog against anyone. My point being, that there would be so many variables, that that's just a weird guess to make. Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I don't even know where to start, but..1) That's kind of a random # you came up with2) Let's say it actually is 250k, then you can't just assume that someone would be able to buy out for 75k. It would obv depend on stack sizes, but assuming equal stacks, there's no way the guy whose horse is still running would let the other guy buyout for 75k when he's got 125k equity (assuming the players left are equal), which they wouldn't be because Phil would be a huge fave HU over anyone, and Moon would be a big dog against anyone. My point being, that there would be so many variables, that that's just a weird guess to make.lol relax francis i was talking outta my asss !!! Link to post Share on other sites
ncperrotta069 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-...egreanu-625671/ Link to post Share on other sites
TheWynn 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 From Doyle's Twitter:Doyle Brunson I reversed my bets aganist Ivey. I gave Gus Hanson my 50K bet aganist him. I am now officially pulling for Ivey and Schulman for 135K. Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 lol relax francis i was talking outta my asss !!! sighhhh Link to post Share on other sites
coug2828 8 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/7904-...-wsop-side-bets Andy Bloch face palm Link to post Share on other sites
Stiles2004 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 It's conceivable that somehow Ivey can be the runner up and still manage to lose money Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/7904-...-wsop-side-bets Andy Bloch face palm Ivey vs. the WorldThe bet with Bloch and the reported wager with Dwan may be the only seven-figure bets that have been commonly speculated on, but Ivey likely has a number of smaller — but still far from insignificant — bets with other people in the poker community.“He’s got some random bets, like the standing bet with Daniel (Negreanu) if they play in the same event and one wins, the winner gets $200,000,” said Greenstein. Mike Matusow also reportedly said on Full Tilt chat that he would owe Ivey $100,000 if he came back to win the main event, and Phil Gordon said on Full Tilt he would be “quaking in his boots” because of an unspecified bet that he made with Ivey.But, in an effort to offset their potential losses to Ivey and perhaps make a big score for themselves, both Negreanu and Matusow have been collecting action from other players — and this time, they’re betting on the other side of the coin, on Ivey’s ability to take down the event.Elezra said Negreanu was taking a ton of action on a must-win bet where he would have Ivey and the other bettor would have chip leader Darvin Moon. Although Moon has a large chip lead (58.93 million, or about 30% of the chips in play) and nearly six times the amount that Ivey has, he is considered one of the most inexperienced players remaining and has himself downplayed his success, saying he’s just the beneficiary of an insane run of cards.Many people believe that when it gets to short-handed play, Moon’s amateur mistakes will show and he will have a difficult time closing the deal. And, of course, many people believe if Ivey can double up early and collect a few more chips, he will be nearly impossible to stop.Ten-time bracelet winner Doyle Brunson was the first person to publicly acknowledge that he was taking that bet, announcing in a recent blog that he will be rooting on Moon at the final table.“I thought I would be pulling for Phil Ivey and Jeff Shulman at the WSOP final table. But when Daniel wanted to bet Ivey over Moon, I had to take Moon who has five times the chips of Ivey,” said Brunson. “It is a must-win bet so probably we won’t have action. Sorry Phil, I won’t be rooting for you now. Business is business.”However, just like Negreanu, Brunson eventually thought better of betting against his friend. Brunson posted on his Twitter account this morning: “I reversed my bets against Ivey. I gave Gus Hansen my 50K bet against him. I am now officially pulling for Ivey and Shulman for 135K.” (Spelling errors in original Twitter post corrected; special thanks to CP reader “Prieure” for making us aware of this info.)But Brunson was far from the only one interested in the bet.Negreanu allowed Elezra to take 10% of his action and the two quickly began collecting bets from a host of interested parties.“We’ve gotten up to $1 million already. We’ve got (John) Juanda, Howard Lederer, Nick Schulman…we’ve got six or seven people,” said Elezra.Cash-games pro Brian Rast told Card Player that he made a $25,000 wager with Negreanu and a $10,000 bet with Matusow on a must-win bet. Rast has Moon; they have Ivey.But as soon as Ivey heard about all of the bets Negreanu was collecting, he immediately announced that he wanted in on the deal.“He took half of the action, so Phil would get half a million dollars, Daniel would get $400,000, and I would get $100,000,” said Elezra. Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 That is a great article! I think that Ivey is pretty well insulated from loosing a lot of money. A lot of his bets are freerolls like the bets with Bloch, Dwan and DN. That is potentially $2million he can win without any potential lost money. Link to post Share on other sites
mase_gotsem 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 sighhhh hehe still got <3 fo ya Link to post Share on other sites
dabetka 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Brunson posted on his Twitter account this morning: “I reversed my bets against Ivey. I gave Gus Hansen my 50K bet against him. I am now officially pulling for Ivey and Shulman for 135K.” So, am I reading it correctly that this was just 50k bet?This is confusing...................... Link to post Share on other sites
dabetka 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 a lotas in 100k alot, quarter mill alot, or million alot????U bet 100k a hole on golf course, so this has to be atleast half mill or so? Link to post Share on other sites
gatortom64 1 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 as in 100k alot, quarter mill alot, or million alot????U bet 100k a hole on golf course, so this has to be atleast half mill or so?So how long have you worked for the IRS? Link to post Share on other sites
dabetka 0 Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 So how long have you worked for the IRS?lol, i work against irs ;)P Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 as in 100k alot, quarter mill alot, or million alot????U bet 100k a hole on golf course, so this has to be atleast half mill or so?“We’ve gotten up to $1 million already. We’ve got (John) Juanda, Howard Lederer, Nick Schulman…we’ve got six or seven people,” said Elezra. Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I thought I heard Annie Poopback say that it was for a million last night on the broadcast. I could be wrong though, considering I was hammered drunk. Link to post Share on other sites
Emmser 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Daniel must have been sweating a bit last night when Moon took over the chip lead. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 10 November 2009, 3:26 amRealKidPoker: Cada!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tytytytytyty for saving my entire bankroll! Wooot. Drinks on me y'all Link to post Share on other sites
Emmser 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 10 November 2009, 3:26 amRealKidPoker: Cada!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tytytytytyty for saving my entire bankroll! Wooot. Drinks on me y'allLOL Nice! Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 So what is DN's entire bankroll? Link to post Share on other sites
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