Cardplayer Of The Year

[JebronLames 0]

I do NOT think any invitational event should count, that's absurd and unfair. The key reason I don't think online events should count is because, while it's very similar to live poker, it's just not live poker. Not at all. I can't see my opponents. That's a part of poker. There already is an award for online play. That should NOT transfer over to a poker award that has always been about live tournament poker. It's nuts to count online events, Totally nuts.

FWIW Hal Lubarsky couldn't see his opponents during live poker and ran deeper than most everyone in 2007.j/s

[SCYUKON 0]

Not sure of the rules, but hopefully a 2500 buyin tourney online win does not count the same as a 10k buyin live win points wise.Voted no, btw.

[no not baxter 0]

5ks+ should count online, as long as they have like 100+ players

[fighter 4]

Who is it that's not allowing them to play on certain sites?

Any Team full tilt pro and the pokerstars pros with their faces at the bottom of the Stars lobby. (DN, Barry, ME champs and some others)

[Tha_Sika 0]

Online poker should definately count into Cardplayer's player of the year and let me tell you why.Poker has lots of variance, there are different poker games (holdem, omaha 8, stud, razz,...), there are different limit structures (no limit, limit, pot limit), there are also different tournament blinds strucutre, different table structures, and lots of other things. Online poker is just another of the poker variances, you should learn to play online poker as you learn to play short handed, as u learn to play deep stacks, and as u learn to play heads up.Saying that online poker should not count, it's the same as saying that 6 handed tournaments shoud not count because it must be 9 per table only. It's ridiculous. The Cardplayer player of the year should be the best OVERALL poker player, this means, he should be successful not just in live poker, but online as well. If u do fine in live tournament poker but u fail in online is like u crush deep stacks and fail at fast shortstack tournaments. You should be able to adjust your game to the different circumstances, and that will eventually prove whether you should be named player of the year or not.So if I left any doubt, I say YES of course online poker should count if the purpose of this reward is to name the best OVERALL poker player of the year.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

Online poker should definately count into Cardplayer's player of the year and let me tell you why.Poker has lots of variance, there are different poker games (holdem, omaha 8, stud, razz,...), there are different limit structures (no limit, limit, pot limit), there are also different tournament blinds strucutre, different table structures, and lots of other things. Online poker is just another of the poker variances, you should learn to play online poker as you learn to play short handed, as u learn to play deep stacks, and as u learn to play heads up.Saying that online poker should not count, it's the same as saying that 6 handed tournaments shoud not count because it must be 9 per table only. It's ridiculous. The Cardplayer player of the year should be the best OVERALL poker player, this means, he should be successful not just in live poker, but online as well. If u do fine in live tournament poker but u fail in online is like u crush deep stacks and fail at fast shortstack tournaments. You should be able to adjust your game to the different circumstances, and that will eventually prove whether you should be named player of the year or not.So if I left any doubt, I say YES of course online poker should count if the purpose of this reward is to name the best OVERALL poker player of the year.

We have:CardPlayer of the YearOnline Player of the Year Two separate awards for two separate games. We do not have "6 handed NLH player of the year" which should hurt the credibility of your point. There are various forms of poker, yes, but none of those has their own award. Online poker does, because it's not the same game at all. That's why a separate award for online play makes sense, but having those count in both rankings is absurd. Just as absurd as me counting my WSOPE finish for the online player of the year because some of those guys also play online.

[albasuna 0]

I think it should count because the Cardplayer of the Year is trying to determine the poker player who has had the best year in poker. As others were saying, online poker is also a form of poker, which is also quite established. If you were to exclude online poker from the CPOY criteria then you are essentially making an argument that online poker is not a pure form of poker. You cannot ignore the achievement of winning the WCOOP ME or the FTOPS ME. I think to ignore these results in the Cardplayer of the Year criteria would be nuts.TBQH this will turn into a debate whether or not online poker and live poker belong in the same group.

[albasuna 0]

We have:CardPlayer of the YearOnline Player of the Year Two separate awards for two separate games. We do not have "6 handed NLH player of the year" which should hurt the credibility of your point. There are various forms of poker, yes, but none of those has their own award. Online poker does, because it's not the same game at all. That's why a separate award for online play makes sense, but having those count in both rankings is absurd. Just as absurd as me counting my WSOPE finish for the online player of the year because some of those guys also play online.

I'm assuming a Live Player of the Year award which only counts live tournaments would still not satisfy you?

[Fluffdog87 2]

Danfrom the rules- Player of the Year 2009 Scoring Criteriahttp://www.cardplayer.com/rules-poyOnline events with a prize pool of more than $5 million (only players who release their real names -- with site verification -- will receive points)This means basically the WCOOP ME only as of now barring future huge tourneys.I think any $2,500+ buy-in 200+ player tourney online should be counted and $10ks+ with 100+ players. effectively adding the FTOPS $2.5k, and WCOOP/SCOOP $10ksSo 1 tourney was counted this yr and 1 last yr. Thoughts on the above being added?Also do you think Invitational events should be counted as they are now?2009 Scoring Criteria-Invitational events must have at least $500,000 in the prize pool

What would you guys change to the current Player of the Year Scoring Criteria?http://www.cardplayer.com/rules-poy Tournaments that count in the Player of the Year standings will be listed in Card Player magazine each issue. Events must meet all criteria to qualify. Changes from 2008 are indicated in boldface:

• Events in a tournament series with at least $750,000 in the overall prize pool or single events with at least $250,000 in the prize pool
• Events with at least 60 entrants
• Events with a buy-in of at least $300
• For all $10,000 buy-in championship events, points will be awarded to the players at the final three tables for in-the-money players only. (If only 18 places pay in a $10,000 event, only those 18 players will be awarded points.)
• 2009 editions of 2008 brick-and-mortar (land-based) casino Player of the Year events; the 2009 editions must have a buy-in of at least $300 and at least 60 entrants
• Invitational events must have at least $500,000 in the prize pool
• International events must have a buy-in of at least $1,000, but will otherwise follow normal POY qualification criteria
• Online events with a prize pool of more than $5 million (only players who release their real names -- with site verification -- will receive points)
• Second-chance events do not qualify
• Regularly scheduled daily or weekly events do not qualify

There are three criteria when calculating points:

1. Place finished at the final table
   • For stud events, the final eight will receive points.
   • For sixhanded events, the final six will receive points.
   • For heads-up events with up to 64 entrants, the top four will receive points; for 65-128 entrants, the top eight will receive points; for 129-plus entrants the top 16 will receive points.
   • For all other game types, the final nine will receive points.
   • In events with a buy-in of at least $10,000, the top 27 will receive points in most tournaments. The top 24 players will receive points for stud events and top 18 will receive points for six-handed events.

[*]Amount of the buy-in[*]Number of entrants

Total points are calculated by multiplying the point factors of the three criteria: Place finished: first place receives 120 points; second place, 100; third place, 80; fourth place, 60; fifth place, 50; sixth place, 40; seventh place, 30; eighth place, 20; ninth place, 10. In events with at least a $10,000 buy-in, the entire second table receives 6 points and the entire third table receives 3 points. In heads-up events with 64 entrants, first place receives 120 points; second place, 100; semi-finalists, 60 points. In heads-up events with 65-128 entrants, first place receives 120 points; second place, 100; semi-finalists, 60 points; quarter-finalists, 20 points. In heads-up events with 129-plus entrants, first place receives 120 points; second place, 100; semi-finalists, 60 points; quarter-finalists, 20 points; places nine through 16, 6 points. Note: If there is a tie between two or more players, each receives the average number of points available. For example, if two players tie for ninth place, each receives half of the ninth-place points. Players receive points only if they are in the money. If a tournament pays only five places, only the top five players get points. Buy-ins: $300-$999 = 1 point, $1,000-$2,499 = 2 points, $2,500-$4,999 = 3 points, $5,000-$9,999 = 4 points $10,000-$24,999 = 5 points, $25,000 or more = 6 points. The buy-in in rebuy tournaments is calculated by dividing the total gross prize pool by the number of entrants. Number of entrants: 60-64 = 0.6 point, 65-74 = 0.7 point, 75-84 = 0.8 point, 85-94 = 0.9 point, 95-104 = 1 point. Every 10 additional number of entrants increases the number of points by 0.1 up to 3.9, with the number of entrants rounded to the nearest 10. 395-999 entrants = 4 points, 1,000-1,999 = 5 points, 2,000+ entrants = 6 points. The maximum number of points is 6. Examples are: 57 players = 0 points, 72 players = 0.7 points, 132 players = 1.3 points, 135 players = 1.4 points, 382 players = 3.8 points, 650 players = 4 points, 8,565 players = 6 points. Here is a hypothetical total point calculation example: You finished in eighth place in a $500 buy-in event that had 200 entrants. You receive 20 points for eighth place; the buy-in is $500, which is a 1-point event; and there are 200 entrants, which is good for 2 points. Thus, you receive 40 total points (20 x 1 x 2 = 40).

[looshle 6]

So being player of the year means you have to blow thousands on travel?I personally think MORE online tournaments should count. It should be best poker player of the year. Online poker is not a different game at all and I think you are severely discrediting some online pros by saying so. Someone who wins close to 2 million dollars deserves to be recognized for that, especially in a poker player of the year race. I don't think many online tournaments should count, but why are we not counting 5k and 10k tournaments with huge fields and payouts? Because people like DN can't use their nose twitch and live reads? Seriously?Is a game of chess any less important when played over the internet rather than in person? Isn't this game about who perfoms the best all year round? Am I asking myself a lot of questions??I guess my main point is that I think DN is against counting MAJOR online poker tournaments for player of the year because it's not in his best interest, rather than the best interest of finding out who had the best year when it comes to tournament poker.

[looshle 6]

I do NOT think any invitational event should count, that's absurd and unfair. The key reason I don't think online events should count is because, while it's very similar to live poker, it's just not live poker. Not at all. I can't see my opponents. That's a part of poker. There already is an award for online play. That should NOT transfer over to a poker award that has always been about live tournament poker. It's nuts to count online events, Totally nuts.

Poker has changed. I understand that live reads are a huge part of live poker but I also think taking them out of the equation makes you a better overall player. It's pretty obvious you are extremely proficient at using body language and such to gather information, so I understand you'd rather be able to use that in all tournaments that qualify for one of the biggest awards in tournament poker but I mean, the online sickos that may not be comfortable live are entering them and probably giving off a good amount of tells. They are giving up the fact that they can't react how they normally do and have been for the years they've been playing online and I'm sure are uncomfortable and giving away info. Online poker forces you to become a better player psychologically. All you have to go on are betting patterns, history, and trying to figure out what level of thinking the other guy is on. I don't think that should be punished and I do think it's much tougher to master than Caro's Book of tells Not only that, but like 2 or 3 tournaments max count for POY so wtf.

[MaxStPolish 4]

So being player of the year means you have to blow thousands on travel?I personally think MORE online tournaments should count. It should be best poker player of the year. Online poker is not a different game at all and I think you are severely discrediting some online pros by saying so. Someone who wins close to 2 million dollars deserves to be recognized for that, especially in a poker player of the year race. I don't think many online tournaments should count, but why are we not counting 5k and 10k tournaments with huge fields and payouts? Because people like DN can't use their nose twitch and live reads? Seriously?Is a game of chess any less important when played over the internet rather than in person? Isn't this game about who perfoms the best all year round? Am I asking myself a lot of questions??I guess my main point is that I think DN is against counting MAJOR online poker tournaments for player of the year because it's not in his best interest, rather than the best interest of finding out who had the best year when it comes to tournament poker.

I don't disagree with this in part. I think the disconnect is the fact that a separate online player of the year ("OPOY") exists. Previously they was only the card player of year ("CPOY"). It sort of infers that OPOY is for online play and CPOY is for live play.Essentially, it would be in the best interest of Card Player and all players if they either created one other category for live player of year ("LPOY"), OR did away with OPOY and leveled the online and live tournaments that qualify for the singular CPOY award.I think a slight stretch of an example (using hockey) would be if a Prince of Wales trophy (eastern conference champ) existed, and the stanley cup existed (league champ, but a Campbell Bowl (western conference champ) didn't exist. The one sect of players would feel slighted that the other conference's achievements were celebrated at the conference level, whereas for them, either they win it all or they get nothing. It's not the end of the world, as the player's goal is to win it all, but it still feels like a bit of a slap in the face.This is coming from a guy that has never registered a POY point in his life, so it could be way off, but from the outside looking in this seems like a relevant analogy.

[dscoot 0]

asking this question on an online poker forum is gonna give you results skewed towards letting them count.if the structure is sick enuff, the wcoopME should be included. btw , live reads/feel is not the main and only difference between live/online, its the 10 minute levels vs 60mins+ which present the real joke when people act like online tournys are on the same level as live. plus the starting stax.and of course some internet-hermit that never plays live is gonna come say that you see brazzillionxxx more hands per hour online. thats just a lie. maybe in the 1990's yeah. but the shuffle method used by live dealers is so rediculous nowadays it hardly takes much more time than online. plus stars/online is notorious for having people take 60 secs a play more often than normal, whether there surfing sites, playing too many tables, getting food out of the kitching etc.. these can never occur live so thats a bunch of 30-60sec stalls that add up to live not being that much slower hands p hour than live for one tourny.

[Tha_Sika 0]

We have:CardPlayer of the YearOnline Player of the Year Two separate awards for two separate games. We do not have "6 handed NLH player of the year" which should hurt the credibility of your point. There are various forms of poker, yes, but none of those has their own award. Online poker does, because it's not the same game at all. That's why a separate award for online play makes sense, but having those count in both rankings is absurd. Just as absurd as me counting my WSOPE finish for the online player of the year because some of those guys also play online.

From 2003, Online Poker has changed the poker world drastically. I guess every single live player has played online at least one time in his life. So even though it has an own award for online, the CP should consider this ranking for the CPOY. Ignoriing online poker in the CPOY would be a huge mistake. Maybe a couple of years ago it would sound correct to exclude it from CPOY but now if we take into account the way it has expanded and the importance it has been given with a few notable tournaments, it would be a mistake to exclude it from the CPOY. A huge part of poker comes from online, 98% of poker players play online and I would say every single pro plays online as well. Having said that, it would be appropiate to include it as a form of poker in the CPOY and at the same time leave the Online reward as a separate one for those who doesnt play live tournaments which are the majority of the players. Thats the main reason why they have a separate category and at the same it should be part of the CPOY.

[bigcoled 1]

I think there should be 3 leaderboards, to be fair to both sides. I feel discrediting large online tourneys knowing that very ligitimate live players are competing and being successful while there is such a large enough presence in this form of poker, would be unreasonable when considering we are trying to establish the best all around tournament poker player at the highest levels, in the biggest events in the world.

[lurbz 2]

i agree with loosh 100%

[DanielNegreanu 141]

So being player of the year means you have to blow thousands on travel?I personally think MORE online tournaments should count. It should be best poker player of the year. Online poker is not a different game at all and I think you are severely discrediting some online pros by saying so. Someone who wins close to 2 million dollars deserves to be recognized for that, especially in a poker player of the year race. I don't think many online tournaments should count, but why are we not counting 5k and 10k tournaments with huge fields and payouts? Because people like DN can't use their nose twitch and live reads? Seriously?Is a game of chess any less important when played over the internet rather than in person? Isn't this game about who perfoms the best all year round? Am I asking myself a lot of questions??I guess my main point is that I think DN is against counting MAJOR online poker tournaments for player of the year because it's not in his best interest, rather than the best interest of finding out who had the best year when it comes to tournament poker.

I'd be totally fine with the following set up:CarPlayer of the Year (combining live and online tournaments)Live Player of the Year (no online tournaments)Online Player of the Year (only online tournaments) Online tournaments are just brutal for older people. After 8 hours I literally cannot see my holecards on the screen. It's torture. As for your comment about online poker not being a different game at all, maybe that's true how you play it, but universally that statement is completely FALSE. In an online tournament when I have a tough decision on the river I must focus solely on betting patterns and math to make my decision. When I play in a live tournament, like recently at the WSOPE, I can base my decision solely on a physical tell. YES REALLY!!! Ask Eric Liu if that's true. We had one specific hand where I called the river with 77 on a board of Q-9-9-8-K. I thought about it for a while, waited to see if he would do that "thing" and as soon as I saw it, I insta called and he showed A-7. I was CERTAIN he was bluffing, and online I can only guess based on his bluffing frequency. Eric knew I spotted the tell and actually asked me if I called him because he did that, and then said he felt stupid for doing it, etc. If I don't see that tell, I would have folded. If you aren't good at spotting what I call "LOCK TELLS" then of course you would think the two games are the same. I am pretty good at spotting lock tells and when I do, I swear on my life, my actual holecards cease to matter. If I see the bluff tell and have nothing- I raise. If I see the nuts tell and have a marginal hand- I fold. Betting patterns become completely secondary when you have lock tells on your opponent.

[tuckermitchell 1]

I'd be totally fine with the following set up:CarPlayer of the Year (combining live and online tournaments)Live Player of the Year (no online tournaments)Online Player of the Year (only online tournaments)

This is why I think you maintain credibility in a lot of poker circles. I think it's fair to say judging by others actions in the past that many "live" pros believe that live poker maintains some aura of mystique because it was the original way to play the game. Life is more technologically based, why is it naive to expect everything too go along with it.There should be one player of the year that combines everything for sure though. That would state who is the best OVERALL poker player. Probably ought to call it poker player of the year too while you're at it before the grammar police come in and start arguing with you over the nuances of the word "cardplayer".

[Tha_Sika 0]

I'd be totally fine with the following set up:CarPlayer of the Year (combining live and online tournaments)Live Player of the Year (no online tournaments)Online Player of the Year (only online tournaments) Online tournaments are just brutal for older people. After 8 hours I literally cannot see my holecards on the screen. It's torture. As for your comment about online poker not being a different game at all, maybe that's true how you play it, but universally that statement is completely FALSE. In an online tournament when I have a tough decision on the river I must focus solely on betting patterns and math to make my decision. When I play in a live tournament, like recently at the WSOPE, I can base my decision solely on a physical tell. YES REALLY!!! Ask Eric Liu if that's true. We had one specific hand where I called the river with 77 on a board of Q-9-9-8-K. I thought about it for a while, waited to see if he would do that "thing" and as soon as I saw it, I insta called and he showed A-7. I was CERTAIN he was bluffing, and online I can only guess based on his bluffing frequency. Eric knew I spotted the tell and actually asked me if I called him because he did that, and then said he felt stupid for doing it, etc. If I don't see that tell, I would have folded. If you aren't good at spotting what I call "LOCK TELLS" then of course you would think the two games are the same. I am pretty good at spotting lock tells and when I do, I swear on my life, my actual holecards cease to matter. If I see the bluff tell and have nothing- I raise. If I see the nuts tell and have a marginal hand- I fold. Betting patterns become completely secondary when you have lock tells on your opponent.

Im happy u realized that online poker MUST be included in Cardplayer of the year. Now you should argue why there is not a Live Player of the Year, I agree with you I think it should exist for those who are good in live but struggle online. But Cardplayer of the year must include at least some online poker tournaments, for sure, otherwise it would not be the best OVERALL player of the year.P.S. Respect for the poker brat

[AAsnake88 0]

I'd be totally fine with the following set up:CarPlayer of the Year (combining live and online tournaments)Live Player of the Year (no online tournaments)Online Player of the Year (only online tournaments) Online tournaments are just brutal for older people. After 8 hours I literally cannot see my holecards on the screen. It's torture. As for your comment about online poker not being a different game at all, maybe that's true how you play it, but universally that statement is completely FALSE. In an online tournament when I have a tough decision on the river I must focus solely on betting patterns and math to make my decision. When I play in a live tournament, like recently at the WSOPE, I can base my decision solely on a physical tell. YES REALLY!!! Ask Eric Liu if that's true. We had one specific hand where I called the river with 77 on a board of Q-9-9-8-K. I thought about it for a while, waited to see if he would do that "thing" and as soon as I saw it, I insta called and he showed A-7. I was CERTAIN he was bluffing, and online I can only guess based on his bluffing frequency. Eric knew I spotted the tell and actually asked me if I called him because he did that, and then said he felt stupid for doing it, etc. If I don't see that tell, I would have folded. If you aren't good at spotting what I call "LOCK TELLS" then of course you would think the two games are the same. I am pretty good at spotting lock tells and when I do, I swear on my life, my actual holecards cease to matter. If I see the bluff tell and have nothing- I raise. If I see the nuts tell and have a marginal hand- I fold. Betting patterns become completely secondary when you have lock tells on your opponent.

I think this post is simply saying that you want them separated for your own benefit. You're becoming the grumpy old live guy before your time.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

Im happy u realized that online poker MUST be included in Cardplayer of the year. Now you should argue why there is not a Live Player of the Year, I agree with you I think it should exist for those who are good in live but struggle online. But Cardplayer of the year must include at least some online poker tournaments, for sure, otherwise it would not be the best OVERALL player of the year.P.S. Respect for the poker brat

Haha, don't twist my words, I do not think online tournaments should count. I would compromise if there was an online player of the year, a live player of the year, and an overall award. The current system is flawed.

[looshle 6]

I'd be totally fine with the following set up:CarPlayer of the Year (combining live and online tournaments)Live Player of the Year (no online tournaments)Online Player of the Year (only online tournaments) Online tournaments are just brutal for older people. After 8 hours I literally cannot see my holecards on the screen. It's torture. As for your comment about online poker not being a different game at all, maybe that's true how you play it, but universally that statement is completely FALSE. In an online tournament when I have a tough decision on the river I must focus solely on betting patterns and math to make my decision. When I play in a live tournament, like recently at the WSOPE, I can base my decision solely on a physical tell. YES REALLY!!! Ask Eric Liu if that's true. We had one specific hand where I called the river with 77 on a board of Q-9-9-8-K. I thought about it for a while, waited to see if he would do that "thing" and as soon as I saw it, I insta called and he showed A-7. I was CERTAIN he was bluffing, and online I can only guess based on his bluffing frequency. Eric knew I spotted the tell and actually asked me if I called him because he did that, and then said he felt stupid for doing it, etc. If I don't see that tell, I would have folded. If you aren't good at spotting what I call "LOCK TELLS" then of course you would think the two games are the same. I am pretty good at spotting lock tells and when I do, I swear on my life, my actual holecards cease to matter. If I see the bluff tell and have nothing- I raise. If I see the nuts tell and have a marginal hand- I fold. Betting patterns become completely secondary when you have lock tells on your opponent.

Of course you can make decisions based clearly off "lock tells". I'm not denying that at all and I believe I read peoples body language and speech better than most online guys. But is it really a bad thing to have to depend on betting patterns and math? Shouldn't those 2 things be more important than body language? I mean that IS the basis of the game. I can't really see how you can think that it's better for the POY race to not include tournaments for the reason that you are only able to use the absolute core of the game. I believe the best POKER player can crush online, and the best poker player/body language experts can crush live.I totally agree about combining both live and online for one POY race. Many people will argue that the online guys will crush it because of their volume but I don't think that to be a bad thing. Hard work should be a key element of such a big award.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

I think this post is simply saying that you want them separated for your own benefit. You're becoming the grumpy old live guy before your time.

Oh gosh, gimme a break dude. I'm making valid points as to why there should be either one CardPlayer of the Year, or three separate awards. It makes no sense to have two awards where on one hand online events count for both, but live events only count for one.

[looshle 6]

Oh gosh, gimme a break dude. I'm making valid points as to why there should be either one CardPlayer of the Year, or three separate awards. It makes no sense to have two awards where on one hand online events count for both, but live events only count for one.

I think you are confusing people by having 2 points. The first point I think everyone agrees with. There should be 3 seperate categories; live, online, and overall POY.Your second point though is discrediting online poker because it's a different game and you can't use all of your weapons (which obviously sucks for you because your "lock tells" reading ability seems to be world class so you lose an edge there.)The thing is I think just because something hurts you doesn't necessarily hurt poker in general just because you've been around for a long time.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

Of course you can make decisions based clearly off "lock tells". I'm not denying that at all and I believe I read peoples body language and speech better than most online guys. But is it really a bad thing to have to depend on betting patterns and math? Shouldn't those 2 things be more important than body language? I mean that IS the basis of the game. I can't really see how you can think that it's better for the POY race to not include tournaments for the reason that you are only able to use the absolute core of the game. I believe the best POKER player can crush online, and the best poker player/body language experts can crush live.I totally agree about combining both live and online for one POY race. Many people will argue that the online guys will crush it because of their volume but I don't think that to be a bad thing. Hard work should be a key element of such a big award.

I think they already have an award that rewards volume, the Online Player of the Year Award. That totally rewards volume. CardPlayer of the year award rewards volume in Live tournaments. I get that online poker is a skill game, yada yada yada, but what is wrong with separating the two forms of poker and giving an award for both of them separately? Why should it be essential to play online tournaments in order to get enough volume in to win CardPlayer of the Year?