SuperJon 175 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 New table, so no reads.There's a chance I'm ahead and a chance I'm behind.Am I ever ahead enough to make calling profitable?Easy fold?Absolute/UB Cereus Hold'em, $300.00 BB (8 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($2820)SB ($14780)BB ($2610)UTG ($13606)UTG+1 ($4795)MP1 ($624)MP2 ($20226)Hero (CO) ($8366)Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 , 5 1 fold, UTG+1 bets $600, 2 folds, Hero calls $600, 3 foldsFlop: ($1650) 9 , 6 , 9 (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $800, UTG+1 raises to $4195 (All-In), Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 what stake game is this? kind of an easy fold unless in a very low stakes game so unless you are up against a possible naked flush draw, with an over and a paired board our hand is too low in strength to call he i think, any pocket pair higher than that 6 on the board and i would consider going with this hand maybe, maybe. I would assume you are beaten a good amount and or up against a ton of strong draws here. My gut says he has the draw here not the high pair, but i don't think our hand is strong enough to ever be wrong because then we are almost, or even could be dead. I hate to go broke an unknown if he is a spew bot we will know soon enough and take him down later. Thats my idea hereIf we knew what his 3-bet range was we could piece together a much better range here and a lot less hands we are behind ( pocket pairs) aren't here due to the lack of a 3-bet, then we could possibly go with this. Because we don't know, we have to air on the side of folding imo Link to post Share on other sites
wildspoke 2 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'm folding here. Even if villain is on a draw, I think he has at least one over. Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHandKai 0 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 You said it: Easy fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 One of the easiest folds I've ever seen...Even if villain doesn't have a higher pair and just high cards, the 6 on the board actually gives him 3 extra outs, so he/she has a min of 9 outs to your underpair. Factor in the 2 spades on the board and he could be drawing to total of 15 outs without even breaking a sweat (if he has 2 spades in the hole). If that's the case, you're drawing to 4 outs max. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Underpairs on a paired board are nightmares. Get out ASAP.I actually like a check behind on this flop better. When the PFR doesn't cbet a flop that is ripe for cbetting like this one, it's usually a tarp. Link to post Share on other sites
Fade2241 0 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 fold ainec. lock it up Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'm a donk, who has no problems admitting he still has lots to learn.I went with my read that I had the best hand, and called.Villain has As7sTurn blankRiver 6Sure my read was right, and I did have the best hand. But I guess that this is one of those situations where even though you feel you likely have the best hand, you should fold. Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 3b or fold preflop. We aren't deep enough to setmine here and 55 isn't really good postflop. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm a donk, who has no problems admitting he still has lots to learn.I went with my read that I had the best hand, and called.Villain has As7sTurn blankRiver 6Sure my read was right, and I did have the best hand. But I guess that this is one of those situations where even though you feel you likely have the best hand, you should fold.This is exactly why underpairs to a paired board are disastrous.Even if you are currently ahead, you have so little equity against the entire part of villain's range. Even with Ace-rag Villain has 3 hidden outs plus he will pick up 3 more hidden ones on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I went with my read that I had the best hand, and called.Villain has As7sI did have the best hand.you have the best hand right now, but with all his outs he's almost a 60% favorite. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 3b or fold preflop. We aren't deep enough to setmine here and 55 isn't really good postflop. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Fold pre, check back flop.Might call as played but idk. Link to post Share on other sites
Dhall901 0 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 With no reads on the villian I'm snap folding and looking forward to the next hand. Anyone believe checking behind on the flop is the optimal play here? Edit: Perhaps I'll start reading the thread before I post..lol Link to post Share on other sites
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