BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Douche or no douche: guy at pick-up game wearing arm sleeve.douche. because i want to get one and go the rec, but i dont because it's just too awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I thought the UNC game started at 4:00. Just brought up ESPN.com and it said the game was delayed. Tried to look through the comments to find out why. Came across this gem. "Could we please stop all the military BS and get on with the game?"Veteran's Day for the win.Edit: I love the way MSU goes after offensive rebounds. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 honestly i was yelling at the tv too - end this goddamn patriotism jerk off and lets play some basketball. but i just really like basketball. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 There's not going to be an NBA season. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 i want to kick the owners (and the players too) in the face with my fist. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 what a disaster. I can't imagine how Micky Arison and Mark Cuban feel right now. Cuban has to be pissed. This was going to be his victory parade season. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 I survived no NHL season becasuse I had the NBA so I guess I'll survive with no NBA because of the NHL Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Letter from the Union to the players.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/bask...ef=twitter_feedThey are idiots Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Letter from the Union to the players.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/bask...ef=twitter_feedThey are idiotsyep, the players are idiots and the owners are assholes. Not a good combo. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Letter from the Union to the players.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/bask...ef=twitter_feedThey are idiotsThis is one big clustercuss.I always thought that there would be a shortened season starting in January because I knew both sides would be stupid, but I really didn't think they would be this stupid. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I always thought that there would be a shortened season starting in January because I knew both sides would be stupid, but I really didn't think they would be this stupid.yeah i was right there too. they were supposed to argue back and forth until about Dec 1, then the players cave to 50/50 and the season begins on Jan 1. but i didnt realize there would be a faction of owners who do not want a season. and i didnt realize the players wouldnt understand they have no leverage. what i desperately want is to be in the room during this stuff. because if David Stern is telling the truth and the lawyer, Kessler, was the biggest reason they couldnt make any progress towards a deal, I might have to put him down. because this lawsuit is going to make him millions. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I think it was Jason Terry who was saying the owners want to abolish the middle class. They want to pay a premium for the superstars and then lump all the rest down at the bottom and the players just weren't going to allow that. It makes sense for the union to fight that because they want as many players as possible making millions. They don't need to get the superstars extra money because they're perceived as making insane amounts already. So sacrifice the superstars' top end to support a middle class.This is why the players are claiming they are sacrificing their current money to protect the money of future classes. I think that's a true statement. It's no longer about the total money, it's about the distribution of that money. There's probably a political statement in there somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Holy crap, this could get even uglier (from Darren Rovell):"If they don't get the injunction, the players can still try to proceed with its antitrust lawsuit and see if they can prevail. While this could take a long time, they could get treble (triple) damages if they win. They can ask for the $2.1 billion they lost this season and come up with a number for loss of value for losing one year of their ability to play while getting older. If they can prevail, they could get $9 to $10 billion in damages." Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Holy crap, this could get even uglier (from Darren Rovell):"If they don't get the injunction, the players can still try to proceed with its antitrust lawsuit and see if they can prevail. While this could take a long time, they could get treble (triple) damages if they win. They can ask for the $2.1 billion they lost this season and come up with a number for loss of value for losing one year of their ability to play while getting older. If they can prevail, they could get $9 to $10 billion in damages."The anti-trust lawsuit has always been the players Nuclear Weapon to threaten the owners with Link to post Share on other sites
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Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 The anti-trust lawsuit has always been the players Nuclear Weapon to threaten the owners withYeah, I didn't realize treble damages was on the table. I think this makes it more likely the players chase their losses.And lol at that picture. I wonder if David Stern has to resign before this is resolved. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Yeah, I didn't realize treble damages was on the table. I think this makes it more likely the players chase their losses.And lol at that picture. I wonder if David Stern has to resign before this is resolved.treble damages is automatic in anti-trust actions. It's really the only leverage the players have. If they had an anti-trust suit, it could get super amusing. One of the players big arguments is that the owners got themselves into trouble by being financially reckless......but imagine having to go into court and a player lawyer saying "no one made Orlando give Rashard Lewis 110 million dollars". That would suck for Rashard.David Stern will never resign. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 they just need to lower the players share of BRI to 51%, lower the total years on max contracts to four and get rid of the MLE. boom. no lockout, SA21 for commish. when i first heard that the NBA was losing 370 millon a year i knew that number couldnt be "correct." but the players will cave, and if i can tell the players i kept them above a 50/50 split, i'm happy. and the owners have to lose the MLE to protect themselves and the david khan's of the world. too easy? i actually thought khan sounded pretty intelligent on the BS Report. anyways, the players are going to lose money, just accept it and don't miss games and they lose less actual paychecks. boom, SA21 for King/President.guess i was wrong about the players caving. and the owners were even keeping the MLE. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 guess i was wrong about the players caving. and the owners were even keeping the MLE. I wouldn't be surprised if either a big chunk of the season or the entire season is lost. And that makes me sad panda."Boy do I hate being right all the time." Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 lol audacityI think I'm going to go buy NBA 2K12, simulate a season, and just watch the games that way. It'll be like having an NBA Season Pass where I can pick and choose what I want to watch. Link to post Share on other sites
Poppy_Hillis 11 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 There's not going to be a season.I'm doing the D-League this year. Link to post Share on other sites
staticface 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 lol audacityI think I'm going to go buy NBA 2K12, simulate a season, and just watch the games that way. It'll be like having an NBA Season Pass where I can pick and choose what I want to watch. now you gave me idea to think why I should buy one Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I don't get you guys saying the players have no leverage. No players means no games means no revenue at all for the owners. No one is paying to watch the owners play, that's more than enough leverage. All the owners would be sitting on hundred million dollar investments that are worthless without players. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I don't get you guys saying the players have no leverage. No players means no games means no revenue at all for the owners. No one is paying to watch the owners play, that's more than enough leverage. All the owners would be sitting on hundred million dollar investments that are worthless without players.read this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/725099...ess-vs-personal Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I don't get you guys saying the players have no leverage. No players means no games means no revenue at all for the owners. No one is paying to watch the owners play, that's more than enough leverage. All the owners would be sitting on hundred million dollar investments that are worthless without players.Because several owners are perfectly fine with missing a season to get the system they want. Nobody thinks that the NBA is in danger of folding; it's just a matter of when it starts back up and the owners have the resources to last a whole lot longer than the players. Link to post Share on other sites
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