Kid DynOmite 0 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I can now safely say this is the best call of my poker career:http://cakepoker.com/en/HandHistory/Defaul...Gw4jMxsDCw8c%3d Link to post Share on other sites
Sick Boy 0 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 The man, Link to post Share on other sites
Nashtak 0 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I'll just assume you had a sick read because that just seem ****ed. Link to post Share on other sites
gdaylinz 0 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Lol a lot. You know if you make this call and lose, you're just that fish who overplays AK. With that said nh. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I demand stats on villain asap Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 stdnice call; in retrospect it seems like you could definitely have put the pieces together. I mean what hand on earth would he just shove the river here? Doesn't make any sense. Any hand w/showdown value, like even a pair of 4s, wouldn't just shove; it may go for a c/c or manage a value bet. And it's not like you're representing a good hand, either, so shoving the nuts is kinda dumbBut then I've leveled myself into calling w/that logic before, and been wrong almost everytime. Recently I called some dude w/trips on a four flush board because 1) I knew he'd fire all 3 streets, regardless of what came and 2) unless he had a strong flush, he'd presumably just check the hand down and take a showdown, as I had seen him do before. Obv flips the 7h and I'm busto Link to post Share on other sites
Kid DynOmite 0 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Share Posted August 18, 2009 I demand stats on villain asapI don't really do stats... Too lazy. I would guess 35/25 though Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I don't really do stats... Too lazy. I would guess 35/25 thoughI demand elaboration, asap Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Without a specific read, this call was certainly wrong and will lead to an overall loss of funds very quickly.Every "big play" we make at the table has a shot at working out a small percentage of the time.But just because we encountered one of those times where we succeeded, it does not validate it as being the right play.Instead, the success just encourages us to continue our wrong ways.And eventually (usually sooner than later), our lesson is learned and we lose everything because of it.The fact that you are boasting about this loose call seems to confirm that you will continue this practice.And that does not bode well.Good luck. nice call; in retrospect it seems like you could definitely have put the pieces together. I mean what hand on earth would he just shove the river here? Doesn't make any sense. Any hand w/showdown value, like even a pair of 4s, wouldn't just shove; it may go for a c/c or manage a value bet.The answer to your question is clearly stated in this exact hand.On a double-paired board, Ace Highs love to go along for the ride.And for whatever reason, on these boards, they seem to believe a huge bet less than a small one.I shove with my big hands here every single time.And get called with junk all day.--CM Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Nice post, CM. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I doubt that two out of thirty villains will be capable of thinking, "ace high will call a massive shove here, all-in"call may be wrong, long-term, but it's defensible Link to post Share on other sites
channjalen2003 0 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 If you were so sure you were good why not raise the turn instead of giving him a card to get there. Love hero callers. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid DynOmite 0 Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 If you were so sure you were good why not raise the turn instead of giving him a card to get there. Love hero callers.Call turn because I think my hand has showdown value. I fold riv if the card is a J,Q, H or if he doesn't make a bet that's so obviously a bluff. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid DynOmite 0 Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 Without a specific read, this call was certainly wrong and will lead to an overall loss of funds very quickly.Every "big play" we make at the table has a shot at working out a small percentage of the time.But just because we encountered one of those times where we succeeded, it does not validate it as being the right play.Instead, the success just encourages us to continue our wrong ways.And eventually (usually sooner than later), our lesson is learned and we lose everything because of it.The fact that you are boasting about this loose call seems to confirm that you will continue this practice.And that does not bode well.Good luck.The answer to your question is clearly stated in this exact hand.On a double-paired board, Ace Highs love to go along for the ride.And for whatever reason, on these boards, they seem to believe a huge bet less than a small one.I shove with my big hands here every single time.And get called with junk all day.--CMEh, it's a player based call. I only bum hunt 200nl games so I never have more that 4 of them open. I was watching this dude close because he was also at like 6 of my 100nl tables. I would agree, it would be unwise to call shoves all the time with A-high and up. I thought that was obvious, but I guess I'm wrong. Right now 200nl regs are better than me, and it will probably stay that way because I dont have the time to invest into poker to get my game that smooth. I'll stick to either 8 tabling 100nl or playing tons of 50nl while just bum hunting higher games. CM, what stakes do you play where you shove big hands 100% of the time on 2 pair boards, and how do you do in those games? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Call turn because I think my hand has showdown value. I fold riv if the card is a J,Q, H or if he doesn't make a bet that's so obviously a bluff.yea thisour hero isn't 'sure' on the turn that villain's bluffing; he's not even 'sure' of it on the river. but the strange river bet gives him more information to make a decision. I bet OP would've folded had villain bet a lot smaller because then it'd be easier to reconcile his actions with his probable range. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 our hero isn't 'sure' on the turn that villain's bluffing; he's not even 'sure' of it on the river. but the strange river bet gives him more information to make a decision. I bet OP would've folded had villain bet a lot smaller because then it'd be easier to reconcile his actions with his probable range..... and this is why betting large on the river with made hands can be so successful so often.--cm Link to post Share on other sites
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