rcgs59 15 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I know this is a bad beat but could I done anything to avoid the outcome beside fold it?Hand info: http://www.pokerhand.org/?4577484PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 8.8 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds 15 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t10885)BB (t18345)UTG (t9175)UTG+1 (t3990)MP1 (t7380)MP2 (t1935)MP3 (t8810)CO (t5410)Hero (Button) (t7825)Hero's M: 24.84Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 81 fold, UTG+1 calls t120, 3 folds, CO bets t600, Hero calls t600, SB calls t540, BB raises to t2640, 2 folds, Hero calls t2040, 1 foldFlop: (t6735) 9, 8, 9(2 players)BB bets t5640, Hero calls t5170 (All-In)Turn: (t17075) 4(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t17075) 9(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t17075Results:Hero had 8, 8 (full house, nines over eights).BB had A, A (full house, nines over Aces).Outcome: BB won t17075 Link to post Share on other sites
BDPoolie 0 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I know this is a bad beat and know for an absolute fact that I couldn't have done anything, but just wanted to tell a bad beat storyFYP Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I know this is a bad beat but could I done anything to avoid the outcome beside fold it?Avoiding this post flop is impossible. Anyone who folds the second nuts on the flop is a damn fool. Especially after that type of action pre-flop. Damn near certain no one has pocket 9's. You just got unlucky.POSSIBLY avoidable preflop. After a bet and a re-raise you could fold assuming someone has a higher pocket pair.....but even that...FYPThat does seem accurate. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I got lost on the way to the bad beat board.Hand info: http://www.pokerhand.org/?4577484PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 8.8 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds 15 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t10885)BB (t18345)UTG (t9175)UTG+1 (t3990)MP1 (t7380)MP2 (t1935)MP3 (t8810)CO (t5410)Hero (Button) (t7825)Hero's M: 24.84Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 81 fold, UTG+1 calls t120, 3 folds, CO bets t600, Hero calls t600, SB calls t540, BB raises to t2640, 2 folds, Hero calls t2040, 1 foldFlop: (t6735) 9, 8, 9(2 players)BB bets t5640, Hero calls t5170 (All-In)Turn: (t17075) 4(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t17075) 9(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t17075Results:Hero had 8, 8 (full house, nines over eights).BB had A, A (full house, nines over Aces).Outcome: BB won t17075 Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 The first call preflop is pretty marginal and the second is really bad. We should be shove/folding here. Link to post Share on other sites
Canuckickstan 2 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Stay in bed ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Kid DynOmite 0 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 make it a rule not to play pocket 8s Link to post Share on other sites
DocHoliday 0 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Stop playing poker? Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 really helpful SnamuhStop playing poker?seriously guys it was a bad play but I am looking for honest feedback. I should of not called his raise it was simple, so just say it. the thing is how does one improve or fix leeks if people just tip toe around the fact. this is why I sometimes avoid posting in strat here because I get the above posts back. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=9d+9c...d+8h%0D%0Aad+asthis is about as good as you will ever get your money in unless you have your opponent drawing stone dead. as for your play you probably should have 3 bet the CO. as played you either need to jam to the raise from the blinds or fold. its a decent spot for him to make a squeeze play so if he is ok at all jamming might be best. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 really helpful Snamuhseriously guys it was a bad play but I am looking for honest feedback. I should of not called his raise it was simple, so just say it. the thing is how does one improve or fix leeks if people just tip toe around the fact. this is why I sometimes avoid posting in strat here because I get the above posts back. Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=9d+9c...d+8h%0D%0Aad+asthis is about as good as you will ever get your money in unless you have your opponent drawing stone dead. as for your play you probably should have 3 bet the CO. as played you either need to jam to the raise from the blinds or fold. its a decent spot for him to make a squeeze play so if he is ok at all jamming might be best.thanks, knowing the odds after the flop I know I had to go all in the it was +ev. but calling pre flop was my mistake with the 88, which was a marginal hand to call that type of raise with his stack from BB Link to post Share on other sites
gdaylinz 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 It's been said several times, but calling pf is marginal... it's a giant multiway pot with someone monster raising and someone else to act behind you and they're totally priced in. Preflop you're at best flipping against AK but more likely you're dominated by JJ+. BUT getting to the real question...There is no way to avoid this. It's actually just the kind of situation you want to be in against JJ+. You only lose to 99 and 89, and there's no way you can put the villain on 89 considering the preflop action. Realistically, you're shoving every time on this flop. They have to hit a two 4 outer to win the hand (1 of two remaining J/Q/K/A or 9s). In the long run, this play will work wonderfully for you. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yea preflop is a bit of a Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted August 15, 2009 Author Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yea preflop is a bit of a my question to you 2 would of called all in preflop? Highwaystar and Tehtoe? that late in the tourney or would you of folded? Link to post Share on other sites
Letahh 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 same thing sorta happend to me but was runner runner :(prob happend to alot of pp Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Depending on the co previous play I fold to his 5x bet. If he is lag I rr to 1800 and fold to the bb rr(unless he has proven to be the type of person that would rr a bet and raise with lower than 88 which is very rare). Calling the CO to set mine is not profitable with your 2 stacks then you compounded the error by calling off a third of your stack pre. Postflop is standard but you shouldnt have seen that flop. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Probably just fold tot he original 5x raise. Definitely fold to the reraise. I'm gonna have to have a pretty strong read that someone is a complete moron to get 60+ BBs in pre with 88 here Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted August 16, 2009 Author Share Posted August 16, 2009 thx Phil Link to post Share on other sites
Poker Addict 0 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Thanks Phil Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Fuck you Steve Link to post Share on other sites
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