In My Country, We Systematically Kill Old People Because We Hate Them.

[Sheiky 0]

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.a...333933006516877I must admit, after reading this article, I am now fully against socialised medicine. I didn't know it, but apparently my country is killing off old people like Hitler killed of the Jews.Among the many numerous good points brought up by this article, i was most hit by the fact that if it wasn't for American non-socialised medicine, Stephen Hawking wouldn't have had a chance. Just think, if Stephen hawking was British, he would have been killed off by our evil healthcare system and we never would have heard of the Big Bang.

[CaneBrain 95]

In America, we keep old people around as a source of amusement.

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

In Soviet Russia, you don't watch TV......TV watch you.

[sKIjaKuDa 0]

In Soviet Russia, you don't watch TV......TV watch you.

LOL!!I miss Yakov Smirnoff:He once told Johnny Carson, "You have such nice things in the U.S.—like warning shots!"

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So, if we socialize medicine, I might get to work faster?Think I might have to change my position from con to pro.

[All_In 0]

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.a...333933006516877I must admit, after reading this article, I am now fully against socialised medicine. I didn't know it, but apparently my country is killing off old people like Hitler killed of the Jews.Among the many numerous good points brought up by this article, i was most hit by the fact that if it wasn't for American non-socialised medicine, Stephen Hawking wouldn't have had a chance. Just think, if Stephen hawking was British, he would have been killed off by our evil healthcare system and we never would have heard of the Big Bang.

u do know america is the only industrialized nation without gov healthcare, right?and hawking didn't introduce the big bang theory to the world.

[Balloon guy 158]

u do know america is the only industrialized nation without gov healthcare, right?and hawking didn't introduce the big bang theory to the world.

You do know that the US has the absolute best healthcare in the entire world, and is at the forefront of all things medical including the CDC which moniters the health of the entire word?

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[Sheiky 0]

u do know america is the only industrialized nation without gov healthcare, right?and hawking didn't introduce the big bang theory to the world.

Yes, but my paragraph doesn't have the same effect when I say 'we never would have heard about hawking radiation'.

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Silicon Valley presumably

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You do know that the US has the absolute best healthcare in the entire world, and is at the forefront of all things medical including the CDC which moniters the health of the entire word?

that's a rumor...

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

that's a rumor...

I want to flip out but I think this has to be a level...

[vbnautilus 48]

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I want to flip out but I think this has to be a level...

why? because i dare to question the superiority of the usa?i have to admit, i don't know your healthcare system very well. but from what i've read, i'd take ours over yours every day.

[owise1 0]

You do know that the US has the absolute best healthcare in the entire world, and is at the forefront of all things medical including the CDC which moniters the health of the entire word?

From today's paper (August 11, 2009 page 11) 24 HoursCanada's health care system isn't hailed as model for American reform, but should not be fingered as a "bogeyman" by fear-mongering opponents, says U.S. President BarackObama. Noting the U.S. spends more per person than any country in the world but underperforms many other nations in results, Obama said it's high time for America to end wasteful and inefficient health care costs. Canada shouldn't be held up as the poster child for nay-sayers, he said. "I suspect that you Canadians will continue to get dragged in by those who oppose reform, even though I've said nothing about Canadian health care reform," he said. "I don't find Canadians particularly scary, but I guess some of the opponents of reform think they make a good bogeyman. I think that's a mistake." Prime Minister Stephen Harper wouldn't be drawn into the debate, reminding that health care is largely the domain of the provinces and territories. Obama added, "the Canadian model works for Canada. It would not work for the United States... In part, simply because we have evolved differently."

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Good, vbnautilus, good one.yeh and the TV series was, um , good, I think. Actually my memory fails me, but I think it was good...

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

why? because i dare to question the superiority of the usa?i have to admit, i don't know your healthcare system very well. but from what i've read, i'd take ours over yours every day.

I bolded where you answered your own question.I hope that if, God forbid, I ever get cancer, socialized medicine hasn't screwed with MD Anderson cancer center here in texas. I've been there during a family member's treatments and very literally they have the best doctors and treatments in the world, and patients were there from all over the world getting treated. Yes, even from Germany.

[El Guapo 8]

I bolded where you answered your own question.I hope that if, God forbid, I ever get cancer, socialized medicine hasn't screwed with MD Anderson cancer center here in texas. I've been there during a family member's treatments and very literally they have the best doctors and treatments in the world, and patients were there from all over the world getting treated. Yes, even from Germany.

More info please.

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

From today's paper (August 11, 2009 page 11) 24 HoursCanada's health care system isn't hailed as model for American reform, but should not be fingered as a "bogeyman" by fear-mongering opponents, says U.S. President BarackObama. Noting the U.S. spends more per person than any country in the world but underperforms many other nations in results, Obama said it's high time for America to end wasteful and inefficient health care costs. Canada shouldn't be held up as the poster child for nay-sayers, he said. "I suspect that you Canadians will continue to get dragged in by those who oppose reform, even though I've said nothing about Canadian health care reform," he said. "I don't find Canadians particularly scary, but I guess some of the opponents of reform think they make a good bogeyman. I think that's a mistake." Prime Minister Stephen Harper wouldn't be drawn into the debate, reminding that health care is largely the domain of the provinces and territories. Obama added, "the Canadian model works for Canada. It would not work for the United States... In part, simply because we have evolved differently."

He also said you will be allowed to keep your current insurance and a hilarious other list of things that directly contradict the house healthcare bill.

[Sheiky 0]

The concept of 'best' healthcare in the world is a pretty intangible concept, which is why the WHO hasn't updated their rankings since 2000 (or at least not that i've seen). No one can really agree on what the 'best' healthcare system would entail and therefore you can't really create rankings for it. The USA may have the best doctors in the world, but is that worth the fact 30 million Americans don't have health insurance? (Don't quote me on that number, it's irrelevant to my point). To some people, it is, to others, it definitely isn't.

[JoeyJoJo 18]

(Don't quote me on that number, it's irrelevant to my point).

It's a little bit relevant. Otherwise you would've just said "some" instead of "30 million."

[Sheiky 0]

It's a little bit relevant. Otherwise you would've just said "some" instead of "30 million."

No, it's not. I believe the actual number is like 45 million but obviously that can be very misleading either way. My whole point is that there are a multitude of variables to consider when determining what the 'best' healthcare system is, and a lot of those variables are a matter of personal philosophy and opinion. Philosophy and opinion which can't be 'proven' with numbers.

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It's a little bit relevant. Otherwise you would've just said "some" instead of "30 million."

why don't you just go read an ann coulter novel or something?

[JoeyJoJo 18]

No, it's not. I believe the actual number is like 45 million but obviously that can be very misleading either way. My whole point is that there are a multitude of variables to consider when determining what the 'best' healthcare system is, and a lot of those variables are a matter of personal philosophy and opinion. Philosophy and opinion which can't be 'proven' with numbers.

Alright, that's fine. My point was just that if something is irrelevant to your point, then don't use it.

why don't you just go read an ann coulter novel or something?

She's the one that does those vampire books, right?

[strategy 4]

She's the one that does those vampire books, right?

she resembles a vampire, yes

[FCP Bob 1,311]

I bolded where you answered your own question.I hope that if, God forbid, I ever get cancer, socialized medicine hasn't screwed with MD Anderson cancer center here in texas. I've been there during a family member's treatments and very literally they have the best doctors and treatments in the world, and patients were there from all over the world getting treated. Yes, even from Germany.

The Hospital For Sick Children in Toronto is one of the best children's hospitals in the World and is also a top research facility. Patients come from all over the World for treatment including the US.There is a famous charity here in Toronto that is called the Herbie Fund which was named after Herbie Quinones, a little seven-month-old baby from Brooklyn N.Y. He was born with a rare birth defect that made it difficult for him to breathe while eating. The Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto had developed an innovative procedure that could heal him, but Herbie's family could not afford the flight or surgery. The people of Toronto set up a fund to pay for his care and the fund since then has helped children from 87 countries come to Toronto for care that either isn't available where they are or they couldn't afford including many other American children.Americans really shouldn't be so arrogant as to think that they are the only country with World Class Doctors, facilites or Medical Research. Just because the government is involved in something doesn't mean that it will be bad.