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PM DNA when you have a question. He's bound to know 90% of the stuff you're asking. (NO JOKE)

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you can't hate 45-50k for a job like that. Because that's an average, i'm sure there is the opportunity to make somewhere closer to 65-70k under the right circumstances. I think alot varies on whether or not you have to share tips (and with which pits-if all dealers pool, just poker dealers pool, or nobody at all) and what game you get to deal in...as i'm sure you make much better tips in the bigger games.I know in windsor, all the dealers pool which imo sucks hard for the good dealers. The union in Windsor forces the casino to put anyone who is "qualified" to deal at a table because of senority. Nothing personal, but there are some people who went to dealer's classes who have ABSOLUTELY no business sitting at a table with gamblers. They have no personality, no people skills and work hard at screwing the good dealers out of tips. I hate nothing more than to spend my night out at a table with a dealer rotation that doesn't smile, doesn't try to interact and have fun and you can tell the person doesn't give a shit about his/her job. I'd much rather lose my ass off and have a good time than win at a table that feels like someone just took a dump in everybody's cornflakes.

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you can't hate 45-50k for a job like that. Because that's an average, i'm sure there is the opportunity to make somewhere closer to 65-70k under the right circumstances. I think alot varies on whether or not you have to share tips (and with which pits-if all dealers pool, just poker dealers pool, or nobody at all) and what game you get to deal in...as i'm sure you make much better tips in the bigger games.I know in windsor, all the dealers pool which imo sucks hard for the good dealers. The union in Windsor forces the casino to put anyone who is "qualified" to deal at a table because of senority. Nothing personal, but there are some people who went to dealer's classes who have ABSOLUTELY no business sitting at a table with gamblers. They have no personality, no people skills and work hard at screwing the good dealers out of tips. I hate nothing more than to spend my night out at a table with a dealer rotation that doesn't smile, doesn't try to interact and have fun and you can tell the person doesn't give a shit about his/her job. I'd much rather lose my ass off and have a good time than win at a table that feels like someone just took a dump in everybody's cornflakes.
Your doing it wrongyou're was too much work
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paging GetSprung and Fidler....
I get no respect, no respect I tell ya.Actually, I'm not in Vegas, but I have been dealing for a couple of years. It's kind of an unwritten policy that dealers don't disclose their exact pay, but I'll try to give you an idea.The first job I had, the tips were shared by all poker dealers. It was a small room that rarely had games from 6-10am. Those dealers (usually 2) got paid the same amount to sit, drink coffee, and read books as the dealers working on busy weekend nights. Needless to say, there was a lot of animosity there. Also, pool tipping leads to weak dealers. A dealer who busts his butt ends up making the same as the slacker barely doing his job. The guests realize this, and don't tip as much, thereby creating a downward spiral that ends with horrible service and toke rates. At this job, I made lower than the amounts mentioned.A little over a year ago, I moved to a nicer casino which was opening a new poker room. Immediately, my tips increased significantly. I take my job seriously, and as a poker player myself, I know what most players want from a dealer. I am friendly and keep the game moving, all while paying attention and making few mistakes. The players in this room tipped well...from what I can tell from when I play, at least as well as Vegas and Biloxi. I also got a good bit of overtime, and made as much as the higher estimates in this thread.At least until this March. With the economy getting so bad, the casino industry is taking a big hit. Our casino, like most, had to decide where to cut back. One of the cuts made was to make all poker dealers part-time. Of course, this doesn't affect the payroll (my base pay is less than $5 hour), but rather saves the casino money by cutting out benefits to employees. So I was given a 4 day notice (over the weekend) that I would be losing all of my benefits - Medical/Dental/Life/Disability Insurance and retirement benefits. Even worse, our hours were cut -- at first, to 4 days a week, and now, sometimes 3 days a week. To keep up with their demand, the casino hired many more dealers, part time, of course. Now, they've basically overhired, and even when I do get to work, I often get EO'd (early out).So, how will this affect our room? Time will tell, but I can say this... At one point late last year, I found out through one of my supervisors that all of the dealers had been "ranked". I came out as the top ranked dealer -- not based on any one reason, but rather a combination of things such as attitude, work ethic, knowledge, etc... However, based on this new structure and the fact that I am tournament director one night per week, I spend less time than most of our dealers actually dealing. We have several weak dealers who get a good bit more time "in the box". I'm no expert is business matters, but If I ran a casino, I would want my best workers dealing with the guests. Basically, if you really want to be a dealer, I say go for it. There are many perks. You can make a good living. And for me, I finally found a job that allows me to stay awake all night and hang out around gamblers. If you can show up for work every day, be on time, smile a good bit, and every once in a while get "caught" doing a little extra, then you'll be way ahead of most of your fellow employees. However, you must also be willing to accept a few things, such as the fact that you are the bottom of the totem pole, and life changing decisions are going to be made for you by executives who care much more about the bottom line than your welfare. You'll also have to be good at dealing with the frequent smartass remarks made by dumbass players who get rivered and take it out on you.
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