looshle 6 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I don't really think you can compare fargo buying out as compared to VT buying out, bc fargo's actions dont affect VT at all.They both bought the same stock and deserve the same result. Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 For future references, the bet made was based off of whoever had the most leaderboard points by the end of the week (no clauses were placed in the bet excluding buy outs/forfeits/whatever). WhatArunAA had the most points at the end of the week, and allowed VT to buy out. Fargo basically made the same bet as VT. It would be completely up to WhatArunAA whether to let either VT or Fargo buy out. He just decided to be the nice guy and give each of them the %. Had he decided otherwise, I don't see how anyone could hold that against him.Since everyone worked everything out, I say everyone should just go back to being buddy buddy, and pretend this never happened. Link to post Share on other sites
Ship_itt 0 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I don't really think you can compare fargo buying out as compared to VT buying out, bc fargo's actions dont affect VT at all.They both bought the same stock and deserve the same result.and at the end of the week who had the most tlb points? tj..soooo fargo loses bet. i dont see how so many people really think fargo is entitled to this money when even he said hes an idiot for not thinking about buying out as an option during a prop bet Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 and at the end of the week who had the most tlb points? tj..soooo fargo loses bet. i dont see how so many people really think fargo is entitled to this money when even he said hes an idiot for not thinking about buying out as an option during a prop betagain, fargo thought he was gonna get a full week's action from VT. The bet didn't end due to TJ having the most TLB points, it ended because VT bought out to cut his losses, so how can you honestly believe fargo believes to lose the entire bet when he had the same exact action? Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Ok so me and TJ make a bet for who gets most Yearly TLB points for $1 mill.Shipp_itt wants action on TJ, so I put up another 200k with him.A couple weeks go by, and TJ realizes he doesn't want to grind tourneys all year and wants out so I let him buy out for 8k.December rolls around and Ship_itt owes me 200k obv. Link to post Share on other sites
Ship_itt 0 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Ok so me and TJ make a bet for who gets most Yearly TLB points for $1 mill.Shipp_itt wants action on TJ, so I put up another 200k with him.A couple weeks go by, and TJ realizes he doesn't want to grind tourneys all year and wants out so I let him buy out for 8k.December rolls around and Ship_itt owes me 200k obv.yes Link to post Share on other sites
Ship_itt 0 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 but when i put 200k on tj i make a clause for what would happen if someone buys out..i think its fargos own fault for losing this bet..but i really dont care that much its just my two cents Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 yeslol, right. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 but when i put 200k on tj i make a clause for what would happen if someone buys out..i think its fargos own fault for losing this bet..but i really dont care that much its just my two centsI mean we all know what bet was made, the argument is what's fair. There's a lot to be said about being a fair and honorable gambler. Link to post Share on other sites
CodyDean 0 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 and at the end of the week who had the most tlb points? tj..soooo fargo loses bet. i dont see how so many people really think fargo is entitled to this money when even he said hes an idiot for not thinking about buying out as an option during a prop betof coursethis way was supposed to avoid any debate and keep everyone happy - a nice jesture from tjbut no one's happy loltj's probably kinda happy Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 This is why i could never gamble for a living.In my world, while TJ did the "nice" thing by giving the same % buyout deal to Fargo, it's CLEARLY the correct thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites
CodyDean 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 i thought it is the responsibility of fargo to protect himself in the bet but now i don't even know anymorethe easiest thing to do is not care Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 slow news day, eh? Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Lets simplify this.My friend and I are watching a boxing match, I bet $50 that boxer 1 will win, my friend bets $50 that boxer 2 will win.In the middle of the match, boxer 2 gives up.Do I still deserve the $50 from the bet? According to a lot of people here, the answer is no. Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Lets simplify this.My friend and I are watching a boxing match, I bet $50 that boxer 1 will win, my friend bets $50 that boxer 2 will win.In the middle of the match, boxer 2 gives up.Do I still deserve the $50 from the bet? According to a lot of people here, the answer is no.(ir)relevant example. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Lets simplify this.My friend and I are watching a boxing match, I bet $50 that boxer 1 will win, my friend bets $50 that boxer 2 will win.In the middle of the match, boxer 2 gives up.Do I still deserve the $50 from the bet? According to a lot of people here, the answer is no.I already simplified it. VT didn't give up. Link to post Share on other sites
Knollie919 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 he pretty much just cut his losses Link to post Share on other sites
Ship_itt 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Lets simplify this.My friend and I are watching a boxing match, I bet $50 that boxer 1 will win, my friend bets $50 that boxer 2 will win.In the middle of the match, boxer 2 gives up.Do I still deserve the $50 from the bet? According to a lot of people here, the answer is no.thats dumb Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 jspencer you always deliver. ty. Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 jspencer you always deliver. ty.Much love. Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Much love.i guess i should of put s/w. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I mean we all know what bet was made, the argument is what's fair. There's a lot to be said about being a fair and honorable gambler.This pretty much sums up my thoughts in a nutshell.With the terms of the bet, I lost straight up. The way it went down though, if I didn't get anything back would be in the slimy area of gray.Like in the 1mil and 200k sidebet, technically you lost, but its an "iffy" way to lose, and no respectable gambler would just take your 200k and feel like he made the right decision.Its like Loosh said, it is about being a fair and honorable gambler, which TJ definitely is by giving me the same buyout options.I would do the same in his shoes and I hope most other people here would as well, as it is the best road to take for all parties involved.This thread should be over with....TJ and VT are good ppl and I obv hold no hard feelings towards either of them (VT owes me a beer now though) Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 As the bet was discussed TJ has every right to collect the full sum on the bet. The issue is, is that most bets that are made where the person making the bet is actually not competing never have a buy out, its not normal territory. Its really unfortunate becuase its an abnormal situation but, I think TJ would have the right to collect. Since the spirit of the bet was among friends giving back some of the money was a nice gesture. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I would do the same in his shoes and I hope most other people here would as well, as it is the best road to take for all parties involved.This thread should be over with....TJ and VT are good ppl and I obv hold no hard feelings towards either of them (VT owes me a beer now though)Doubt I'd give you money back if I were in his shoes. Link to post Share on other sites
CodyDean 0 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 gamblers are hustlers yololll Link to post Share on other sites
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