Wsop Player Of The Year Format

[dscoot 0]

apologize in advance as i said i was done posting here months ago...If phil ivey wins his 3rd bracelet to tie lisandro, he still loses POY. How the **** is that possible when 1 bracelet is the main event?Eff that , even if Phil only makes final nine, I believe he still deserves POY over lisandro cuz ME should be wheighted that much more. please daniel if you can have any influence on this in the future please make the ME worth at least 2x a standard 1500NL if not more!

[MNmiracleCJS 0]

apologize in advance as i said i was done posting here months ago...If phil ivey wins his 3rd bracelet to tie lisandro, he still loses POY. How the **** is that possible when 1 bracelet is the main event?Eff that , even if Phil only makes final nine, I believe he still deserves POY over lisandro cuz ME should be wheighted that much more. please daniel if you can have any influence on this in the future please make the ME worth at least 2x a standard 1500NL if not more!

Not to be harsh...but who cares?

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[MNmiracleCJS 0]

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[Chet Chetterson 0]

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So good.

[Chet Chetterson 0]

@OP: The size and buy in of the event affect everything below first place, which is a reasonable way to set the scale, Ivey could have cashed more to make up the few points.Also, I highly doubt Ivey gives a damn about POY. Any system will have flaws.

[chrispycream 0]

I seriously doubt whether Ivey cares about the POY race.

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@OP: The size and buy in of the event affect everything below first place, which is a reasonable way to set the scale, Ivey could have cashed more to make up the few points.Also, I highly doubt Ivey gives a damn about POY. Any system will have flaws.

It would be if that had anything to do with how it is calculated. The ME was not even included in the calculations for POY until this year.

[kobe2odom8 14]

sigh i thought you left

[dscoot 0]

with iveys multiple prop bets on wsop action, its silly to think him or other people dont have significant money on a p.o.y bet either this year, previous years, or in the futurei personally am losing a few hundo on lisandro winning p.oy. over ivey and i am super small stakes compared to these guys.

[MNmiracleCJS 0]

with iveys multiple prop bets on wsop action, its silly to think him or other people dont have significant money on a p.o.y bet either this year, previous years, or in the futurei personally am losing a few hundo on lisandro winning p.oy. over ivey and i am super small stakes compared to these guys.

you bet a few hundo on a system you don't like without personally knowing how many events/what events these players were playing?Sounds like a sound gambling strategyDo you gamble on the BCS too?

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you bet a few hundo on a system you don't like without personally knowing how many events/what events these players were playing?Sounds like a sound gambling strategyDo you gamble on the BCS too?

Someone find me a way to bet on Middle Tennessee State NOT making the BCS Championship Game next year.Willing to bet -120000 money line.

[dscoot 0]

IVEY 09 RESULTSNL Hold'em Shootout (1,000 player max) (Event 41)$5,000 buy-in 6/21/2009 8th $16,739 Pot-Limit Omaha (Event 30)$2,500 buy-in 6/14/2009 44th $4,883 Omaha/Seven Card Stud HL/8 or Better (Event 25)$2,500 buy-in 6/11/2009 1st $220,538 No-Limit Hold’em (Event 13)$2,500 buy-in 6/5/2009 18th $18,467 Deuce to Seven Draw Lowball (No-Limit) (Event 8)$2,500 buy-in 6/2/2009 1st $96,367 LISANDRO 09 RESULTSSeven Card Razz (Event 44)$2,500 buy-in 6/22/2009 1st $188,390 World Championship Seven Card Stud H/L-8 (Event 37)$10,000 buy-in 6/18/2009 1st $431,656 Pot-Limit Omaha (Event 35)$5,000 buy-in 6/17/2009 33rd $11,345 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi-low Split-8 or Better (Event 27)$5,000 buy-in 6/12/2009 17th $14,889 Seven Card Stud (Event 16)$1,500 buy-in 6/6/2009 1st $124,975 World Championship Seven Card Stud (Event 6)$10,000 buy-in 6/1/2009 9th $36,266 throw in IVEY'S main event and they are tied at cashes with 6. give ivey final table at the ME and they are tied at 3 FT each. how does lisandro deserve it more than phil if phil takes first in the ME?

[fighter 4]

throw in IVEY'S main event and they are tied at cashes with 6. give ivey final table at the ME and they are tied at 3 FT each. how does lisandro deserve it more than phil if phil takes first in the ME?

Lisandro had 4 FT's He deserves it more because he final tabled more often in a scoring system that heavily rewards FT finishes.

[r0llin_game 1]

Lisandro had 4 FT's He deserves it more because he final tabled more often in a scoring system that heavily rewards FT finishes.

didn't know stud 'official' final tables were 9 handed

[fighter 4]

didn't know stud 'official' final tables were 9 handed

Final Table DrawWith the final nine seated under the bright lights, here's the way they're laid out.Seat 1: Freddie Ellis (569,000)Seat 2: Eric Drache (847,000)Seat 3: Jeff Lisandro (392,000)Seat 4: Hasan Habib (593,000)Seat 5: Ivan Schertzer (337,000)Seat 6: Max Pescatori (536,000)Seat 7: Greg Mueller (222,000)Seat 8: Ville Wahlbeck (613,000)Seat 9: Tim Phan (167,000)http://www.pokernews.com/wsop/2009/event-6/day3/page10.htm

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Final Table DrawWith the final nine seated under the bright lights, here's the way they're laid out.Seat 1: Freddie Ellis (569,000)Seat 2: Eric Drache (847,000)Seat 3: Jeff Lisandro (392,000)Seat 4: Hasan Habib (593,000)Seat 5: Ivan Schertzer (337,000)Seat 6: Max Pescatori (536,000)Seat 7: Greg Mueller (222,000)Seat 8: Ville Wahlbeck (613,000)Seat 9: Tim Phan (167,000)http://www.pokernews.com/wsop/2009/event-6/day3/page10.htm

its prolly a mistake by pokernews. you thinking stud tables are ninehanded removes you from any argument in this thread. everyone knows stud is an 8handed game, at least legit poker players know that. the official payouts went as this: 1 $ 373,744 Freddie Ellis 2 $ 231,014 Eric Drache 3 $ 152,915 Ville Wahlbeck 4 $ 107,959 Max Pescatori 5 $ 80,969 Hasan Habib 6 $ 64,297 Ivan Schertzer 7 $ 53,886 Greg 'FBT' Mueller 8 $ 47,532 Tim Phan 9 $ 36,267 Jeff Lisandro 10 $ 36,267 Daniel Negreanu since when is making the final table not worth 1 penny more than bubbling the FT?

[babylondonks 5]

They redraw to 9 to avoid playing 4 handed on one table iirc

[HighwayStar 8]

it may have been said earlier....but who gives a shit?

[isap 0]

i personally am losing a few hundo on lisandro winning p.oy. over ivey and i am super small stakes compared to these guys.

So the whole POY format should be altered so you don't lose a couple hundo. You wouldn't give a crap otherwise.

[Pivvy2001 0]

its prolly a mistake by pokernews. you thinking stud tables are ninehanded removes you from any argument in this thread. everyone knows stud is an 8handed game, at least legit poker players know that. the official payouts went as this: 1 $ 373,744 Freddie Ellis 2 $ 231,014 Eric Drache 3 $ 152,915 Ville Wahlbeck 4 $ 107,959 Max Pescatori 5 $ 80,969 Hasan Habib 6 $ 64,297 Ivan Schertzer 7 $ 53,886 Greg 'FBT' Mueller 8 $ 47,532 Tim Phan 9 $ 36,267 Jeff Lisandro 10 $ 36,267 Daniel Negreanu since when is making the final table not worth 1 penny more than bubbling the FT?

What up faux hawk! You truly are an imbecile. Welcome back so that you could complain about more things that only you care about. No one cares that you lost money on the leaderboard. As someone above stated, don't wager on things unless you are confident in how they work.As to Ivey's prop bets, you are again showing that you don't understand simple things. If Ivey had been making extensive prop bets on player of the year he likely would have played a more extensive schedule of events (as Daniel did). Not to say Ivey has no money on this, but it is not nearly as heavy as his bracelet bets (which is why he is ultra focussed in what he plays but is playing a smaller slate).