2009 Poker Hall Of Fame Nominees Announces

[Cappy37 0]

If Men or McEvoy get in against that list of competitors, the Hall should be burned down, buried in the ashes, and forgotten.I think a lot of people are selling DN short. He's done far more for the game of poker than even Sexton. There really is no hall of fame without Phil Ivey, they shouldn't even get to vote and instead should just start pouring the bronze for his bust to greet people entering the front door. I also think a lot of us wouldn't be the players we are today with HOH1, 2, and 3, and HOH: Cashgames. Dan is the anti-McEvoy.. I think the zillions of books McEvoy has signed off on have stunted player skill growth world-effing-wide.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

Mike Sexton gets my vote. I will get in when I'm older, not too worried about that. I think it would be cool to go in the same year as Juanda, Ivey, and Cunningham. We came up together. We were the only young guys playing in the late 90's and we all accomplished success in cash and tournaments before and after the poker boom.

[I_fold08 1]

even if McEvoy meets most of the requirements, there is no way that he has gained the respect of his peers. Anyone who knows poker and knows Tom McEvoy knows what a bad poker player he is. The guy is terrible!

you and everyone else who say mcevoy should not be inducted into the hall are a bunch of idiots. He was first person ever to win the ME via satalite, and he has written numerous numbers of poker books that helped the expansion and growth of poker. how many pros do you know that dont respect mcevoy? like him or loath him he has done tons for the game.

[lurbz 2]

you and everyone else who say mcevoy should not be inducted into the hall are a bunch of idiots. He was first person ever to win the ME via satalite, and he has written numerous numbers of poker books that helped the expansion and growth of poker. how many pros do you know that dont respect mcevoy? like him or loath him he has done tons for the game.

and you've done plenty to annoy 96% of this forum but I haven't seen you make the ban list yet fdsafdsdasfsdafdasf

[fitzinabox 0]

Mike Sexton gets my vote. I will get in when I'm older, not too worried about that. I think it would be cool to go in the same year as Juanda, Ivey, and Cunningham. We came up together. We were the only young guys playing in the late 90's and we all accomplished success in cash and tournaments before and after the poker boom.

what about Matusow??? He came up about the same time as you guys, right?

[myenemy 0]

http://www.pokernetwork.com/news/2009-poke...nounced9326.htmWhat does everyone think? Firstly, the fact that Tom McEvoy is even a nominee is a complete joke. He no way deserves to be there. To be inducted, I think it is between Seidel and Greenstein. Ivey and Negreanu will be inducted at some point no doubt, but they are a bit young to be inducted now I think (same with Dwan). Harrington, Scotty, Men just haven't done enough to deserve it imo. Sexton definitely doesn't deserve it from a playing standpoint but his overall contribution to poker does merit a nomination.

Seriously? I expected to see a s/w or something following this statement.

[Cappy37 0]

you and everyone else who say mcevoy should not be inducted into the hall are a bunch of idiots.

Then welcome to an existence of living in a world full of idiots. Must be lonely being the expert authority on the subject.

He was first person ever to win the ME via satalite,

He was also the first non-Texan to win the event. Is the satty thing supposed to help your argument? Chris Moneymaker also managed to win a tournament he couldn't comfortably pony up the buy-in for.. And my how it's done so much for his credibility over the years (sw).

and he has written numerous numbers of poker books that helped the expansion and growth of poker.

Paris Hilton's written a book too. Can she get in? Since you're using that as a positive, I'll go ahead and assume the obvious: you actually haven't read any of them. They are effing horrible. If you want a masterpiece about how to timidly play your kings in a nlhe tourney, by all means, soak up the McEvoy knowledge. His books, in terms of usefulness on the felt, are comparable to the speech Adam Sandler gave at the end of Billy Madison about the Little Engine that Could.

how many pros do you know that dont respect mcevoy?

How many pros can you name that actually do? He's the closest thing to an empty seat on the tour as far as intimidation factor goes. Hell, if it wasn't for the PPT, the only reason you'd even remember his name is he's one of the 158,047 Pokerstars Pros the world isn't familiar with that shows up on the "Team Pros Online" when you are trying to search to see if Daniel is playing on Stars.

like him or loath him he has done tons for the game.

Written some utterly garbage books, won a poker tournament over a quarter of a century ago, and ummmm... Don't get me wrong, if PokerVT comes out with a seminar on Folding Your Way Into the Money 101, he'd be a world-class professor. The second semester he could widen the scope to "What is M, and how to make sure it's never higher than 8".Is he a nice guy? Probably. A career winner on the card tables? Absolutely. Should he be within 5 miles of anyone on that list above? Hell no.. Much as it pains me to admit it, even Men the Master has a longer and more thorough list of accomplishments.Even Tom Dwan has McEvoy in the category of national television appearances: about 14-0 (which isn't counting GSN/Travel Channel). Why is that important? Tom Dwan is *relevant* to both the poker community and the world at large. McEvoy never has been, and never will. p.s. - if he's your dad or something, I apologize in advance.

[KingJames 11]

I really <3 cappy

[mtdesmoines 2]

Have 10 million guys flip a coin for ten hours, someone will flip heads a rediculously number of times in a row.That guy is Tom Dwan.Get back to me in ten years.

Soooooooooo agree with this.

Mike Sexton gets my vote. I will get in when I'm older, not too worried about that. I think it would be cool to go in the same year as Juanda, Ivey, and Cunningham. We came up together. We were the only young guys playing in the late 90's and we all accomplished success in cash and tournaments before and after the poker boom.

If anyone thinks the answer is not Sexton, they crazy.

[aucu 3]

Here is what I think with who should get in and whenTom Dwan, at 22 years old? wait 20-30 years Barry Greenstein, yes but wait until 2012 Dan Harrington, yes for 2009 but does not play enough high stakesPhil Ivey, yes but wait 5-10 yearsTom McEvoy, lol, has to win some more first to even be on this list.Men Nguyen, cheater rep, has to redeem himself firstScotty Nguyen, last years HORSE A-Hole, has to redeem himself, time heals wait 5-10 years Erik Seidel, yes but wait until 2011Mike Sexton, yes but wait until 2010Daniel Negreanu, wait 10-20 yearsThe nomination list was manipulated by online groups, PS was pushing for McEvoy based on his tournament of champs win, there must have been a campagn for Durr, the rest are legit even if they are too young still.

[king_tanner 84]

Tom Dwan, at 22 years old? wait 20-30 years Barry Greenstein, yes but wait until 2012 Dan Harrington, yes for 2009 but does not play enough high stakesPhil Ivey, yes but wait 5-10 yearsTom McEvoy, lol, has to win some more first to even be on this list.Men Nguyen, cheater rep, has to redeem himself firstScotty Nguyen, last years HORSE A-Hole, has to redeem himself, time heals wait 5-10 years Erik Seidel, yes but wait until 2011Mike Sexton, yes but wait until 2010Daniel Negreanu, wait 10-20 years

How do you know that Harrington doesn't play high stakes?He is a main event winner, he final tabled the main event twice in a row (2003,2004). He's won a WPT. He has written highly influential poker books. He's a part of the famous poker players who played at the Mayfair club (Lederer, Seidel, Zolotow.... etc). To say that Harrington doesn't play high stakes is laughable.Why lol at Tom McEvoy? Maybe he doesn't do as well with the new generation of players, but he has been a part of professional poker his whole life along with being a WSOP main event champ. He organized the first non-smoking poker tournament, he's written numerous books. He has been an influential poker figure for a long time whether he wins WPT's WSOP's or not. (edit) just read Cappy's post, and I DISAGREEEEE. I don't think he should be in right now with that list, but I think he at least belongs on the list.My pick would be Sexton or Harrington.

[TheWynn 0]

Then welcome to an existence of living in a world full of idiots. Must be lonely being the expert authority on the subject.He was also the first non-Texan to win the event. Is the satty thing supposed to help your argument? Chris Moneymaker also managed to win a tournament he couldn't comfortably pony up the buy-in for.. And my how it's done so much for his credibility over the years (sw).Paris Hilton's written a book too. Can she get in? Since you're using that as a positive, I'll go ahead and assume the obvious: you actually haven't read any of them. They are effing horrible. If you want a masterpiece about how to timidly play your kings in a nlhe tourney, by all means, soak up the McEvoy knowledge. His books, in terms of usefulness on the felt, are comparable to the speech Adam Sandler gave at the end of Billy Madison about the Little Engine that Could. How many pros can you name that actually do? He's the closest thing to an empty seat on the tour as far as intimidation factor goes. Hell, if it wasn't for the PPT, the only reason you'd even remember his name is he's one of the 158,047 Pokerstars Pros the world isn't familiar with that shows up on the "Team Pros Online" when you are trying to search to see if Daniel is playing on Stars.Written some utterly garbage books, won a poker tournament over a quarter of a century ago, and ummmm... Don't get me wrong, if PokerVT comes out with a seminar on Folding Your Way Into the Money 101, he'd be a world-class professor. The second semester he could widen the scope to "What is M, and how to make sure it's never higher than 8".Is he a nice guy? Probably. A career winner on the card tables? Absolutely. Should he be within 5 miles of anyone on that list above? Hell no.. Much as it pains me to admit it, even Men the Master has a longer and more thorough list of accomplishments.Even Tom Dwan has McEvoy in the category of national television appearances: about 14-0 (which isn't counting GSN/Travel Channel). Why is that important? Tom Dwan is *relevant* to both the poker community and the world at large. McEvoy never has been, and never will. p.s. - if he's your dad or something, I apologize in advance.

Geez, did you walk in on McEvoy sodomizing your wife/GF? Wowie!

[Snamuh 0]

He was also the first non-Texan to win the event.

Your point aside, Bobby Baldwin was (he was from Oklahoma I believe).

[Plus one 0]

Mike Sexton gets my vote. I will get in when I'm older, not too worried about that. I think it would be cool to go in the same year as Juanda, Ivey, and Cunningham. We came up together. We were the only young guys playing in the late 90's and we all accomplished success in cash and tournaments before and after the poker boom.

Recommend you worry more about staying competitive, than making the HOF. Not saying you wont, if you catch my drift.

[Cappy37 0]

Why lol at Tom McEvoy? Maybe he doesn't do as well with the new generation of players, but he has been a part of professional poker his whole life along with being a WSOP main event champ. He organized the first non-smoking poker tournament, he's written numerous books. He has been an influential poker figure for a long time whether he wins WPT's WSOP's or not. (edit) just read Cappy's post, and I DISAGREEEEE. I don't think he should be in right now with that list, but I think he at least belongs on the list.My pick would be Sexton or Harrington.

First non-smokiing poker tournament? Now i hate him even more lol.My bad about forgetting about the TOC win.. Add a deep stacked SNG to his resume, then. Again about the books. Have you read his books? I challenge anyone to find a book he's written that doesn't have TJ Cloutier's name on the cover and try and get through it with a straight face. You simply can't. It's like the smasharoo strat without the Helmmuth-advocated level of aggression from Play Poker Like the Pros.FWIW I heartily agree with Sexton and Harrington, and good job bringing up the Mayfair club to quelch the idea he's never played high stakes.

[rivergirl 2]

First non-smokiing poker tournament? Now i hate him even more lol.My bad about forgetting about the TOC win.. Add a deep stacked SNG to his resume, then. Again about the books. Have you read his books? I challenge anyone to find a book he's written that doesn't have TJ Cloutier's name on the cover and try and get through it with a straight face. You simply can't. It's like the smasharoo strat without the Helmmuth-advocated level of aggression from Play Poker Like the Pros.FWIW I heartily agree with Sexton and Harrington, and good job bringing up the Mayfair club to quelch the idea he's never played high stakes.

OMG, i really miss u tons!!!<3<3btw, the billy madison reference had me peeing

[Jam-Fly 8]

Cappy is the only person speaking sense in this thread.People who think McEvoy deserves to be on this list are clearly not big poker fans. Daniel Negreanu, Gavin Smith, Barry Greenstein, Joe Sebok are just a few pros that don't respect Tom McEvoy's game. I'm 100% sure that nearly every other 'respected' pro does not respect McEvoy's game, but may not come out and say it in the open.Like Cappy has said, have you read any of his books? They are absolutely terrible. They are laughable. Even his books with T.J. are quite bad compared to the likes of Harrington's books. The guy has no clue.He won two tournaments. One of which had 108 entrants and was 26 years ago, and from what I've read/heard, he was very lucky to win. The other tournament he won had 20 entrants!!! Seriously, McEvoy is terrible.