NoBBiR 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And no I dunno why there is a ? in the title.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (Button) ($8.02)SB ($5.38)BB ($8.49)UTG ($9.42)MP ($7.25)CO ($5.11)Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 6UTG bets $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, SB raises to $0.55, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35Flop: ($1.70) 9, 8, 7(3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checksTurn: ($1.70) 6(3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90, UTG calls $0.90River: ($4.40) A(3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checksTotal pot: $4.40 | Rake: $0.29 Is betting the river here just going for too much thin value vs. your standard 5-10nl donks?I'm for sure betting again if just one of them calls, but is it just too likely that one of them has something like 55 or some random 5 or 10 that they're playing stupid? Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah I wouldn't bet there. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah I wouldn't bet there.You're instabetting if it's HU to the river and get checked too right? Are we b/cing if so, or B/fing? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Sure you can get a random Ax of diamonds to call a small bet. But hoping to get 2 streets of value here and not running into a straight is pretty unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Bet/call would be pretty bad. I think betting it heads up is thin too. It's different betting this board than like a 679T board or something like that, where they need to have an 8 or a two card straight. That board has two one card straight possibilities. The amount you're giving up by never betting in this spot is probably very close to 0 especially considering if you're betting this board how many times you'll value own yourself with weak 2nd pair and strong third pair etc. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I play these stakes too and what I've observed is that players tend to be pretty passive overall. When you get called by two on that turn, and then they both check the river, there is a solid chance one of them has a 5 and is afraid of the higher straight. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Like I think if you're looking to plug leaks or w/e that this spot isn't it. The key to thinnnnn value bets is having good notes/reads on your opponent and betting because of that. We really don't have great definition of villain's hands here, other than they checked river and most people don't check the nuts on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think heads up on the river you can bet/fold but with two players there is no way this is a bet Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think heads up on the river you can bet/fold but with two players there is no way this is a bet Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 i think you get check raised too much by flushes and or AA decent pot just don't risk it i know everyone loves the value bet but play it safe Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yeah I wouldn't bet there. Link to post Share on other sites
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