No_Neck 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 4 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converterquattromif (BTN): $19.95Parashurama (SB): $14.65rjurdi751 (BB): $30.50Hero (CO): $70.15Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 7 7Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, rjurdi751 calls $1.25Flop: ($3.75) K K 6(2 players)rjurdi751 bets $2, Hero calls $2Turn: ($7.75) 5(2 players)rjurdi751 bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50River: ($12.75) T(2 players)rjurdi751 bets $6, Hero calls $626/7/2 what do you think? yes I am a fish Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDonk 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 In one topic you have pocket nines and in this one you have pocket sevens. Eh? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 yeah I had 99 but I think 77 is a more interesting dicussion I didn't realize it posted twice. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 yeah I had 99 but I think 77 is a more interesting dicussion I fail to see a huge difference. I don't see this as a mid pair too often.I'm going to laugh when you got AT'd on the river... but for a passive player do you really think he tries to get 3 streets of value from 6x or gets that silly with Ax? Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 well diamonds didn't hit but if there aren't 2 diamonds on the flop i think this is total spewage with 77. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nate if you don't want the other topic up... I'd just edit it to nothing, cuz the likelihood that a mod will delete it is pretty low unless someone contacts Zach or something. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 77 and 99 are a big difference here, 99 I think calling is fine/good, 77 it's pretty borderline. I can call for curiosity to see what his betting patterns are here, because it seems like he's betting a small made hand for value. I don't know if he'd do that for 3 streets with a 6 but I'd like to know.It's probably slightly good with the missed draw and slightly losing with no draw present, but whatever, stationing aint that bad. It'd be cool to know if he had a K here too. I play heads up and note a tonnnnnnn so all this stuff is really valuable info to have, 6max it's nice to have but not quite as valuable, and 4handed I think you'll be playing enough hands against each other that figuring out his value betting range or w/e he's doing is worthwhile, especially with a hand that has showdown value (like a pocket pair above a 6) and could be good. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 really small difference between 99 and 77 imo, I call either way as played, b/c it's the only way to win and it's cheap enough to get a readshowing aggression somewhere in the hand is a good plan too Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The difference between 99 and 77 is pretty big, because 77 and 88 are two more very reasonable hands to put in his value betting range. It sucks to get value towned here by 88 and 99 when you're holding 77. TT and JJ are also in his range too, and QQ probably 3bets, but people play so nitty that it could be in there too.But more importantly, why is showing aggression at some point a good plan? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 But more importantly, why is showing aggression at some point a good plan?I don't think it is at all... if we do that then we turn our 7's into a bluff, and I still think they have some value, though not a ton, in this spot. I don't much like bluffing the 26-7 type Link to post Share on other sites
Syntonic 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I think you played it ok. I'd probably play it the same, but debate calling the river.I don't think this is a bluff with a 10. Most people aren't good enough to value bet a 10 on the end and would just check it down. 10's full maybe, but not just a 10.His bet sizing is pretty small, especially on the turn, so I don't really think it's a king.The river is weird: what do we beat? A6? A bluff? Not much. Too bad you don't have nines Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I echo everything Tskillz said. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I echo everything Tskillz said.countersig imo Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 countersig imoI thought about it, but it just verifies his stupid sig. The worst part was that he was pissing and moaning for me to back him up in some stupid thread, and BOOM like Ron Burgundy, "I immediately regret this decision" What a prima dona. Link to post Share on other sites
DCJ001 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Did you hold pocket sevens, or pocket nines?http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=137305 Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 Did you hold pocket sevens, or pocket nines?http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=137305 you can lock that bad boy up.My main logic in this hand was people almost never donk with a K here, so he easily could have had a diamond draw with the price he is laying me it is pretty hard to turn down. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 Also people seem to go batshit crazy on paired boards. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 at first glance 3 value sized bets look like a world of hurt. at .25-.50 i think its too stationish to flat 3 streets on that board unless this guys just goes sick with like almost ATC and v-bets which is horribly unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 77 and 99 are a big difference here, 99 I think calling is fine/good, 77 it's pretty borderline. I can call for curiosity to see what his betting patterns are here, because it seems like he's betting a small made hand for value. I don't know if he'd do that for 3 streets with a 6 but I'd like to know.It's probably slightly good with the missed draw and slightly losing with no draw present, but whatever, stationing aint that bad. It'd be cool to know if he had a K here too. I play heads up and note a tonnnnnnn so all this stuff is really valuable info to have, 6max it's nice to have but not quite as valuable, and 4handed I think you'll be playing enough hands against each other that figuring out his value betting range or w/e he's doing is worthwhile, especially with a hand that has showdown value (like a pocket pair above a 6) and could be good.i like your point didn't realize that forgot it was 4 handed yah rather stationish Link to post Share on other sites
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