SCS 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Grabbed by Holdem ManagerNL Holdem $1(BB) Full Tilt SB ($104)BB ($81.70)UTG ($20)UTG+1 ($124)CO ($134)Hero ($192)Dealt to Hero 6 7 :heart:fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, BB calls $1.50, FLOP ($5.50) 2 5 3 :heart:check, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4, TURN ($13.50) 2 5 3 4 :diamond:check, Hero bets $9, BB calls $9, RIVER ($31.50) 2 5 3 4 A :diamond:BB bets $66.20 (AI)Villain was running ~48/30 over 150 hands. No relevant history between us. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This is a bluff or a 6 a tonnnnnnnn, he'd probably give you action before the river with a flush. Snap snap. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I don't like spots like this. Also, I'm a station Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This is a bluff or a 6 a tonnnnnnnn, he'd probably give you action before the river with a flush. Snap snap.i disagree I think you are going to see a flush most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 i disagree I think you are going to see a flush most of the time.Not that it isn't possible, but if villain has a flush he couldn't play it any worse. Link to post Share on other sites
Kain8 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 He's had two opportunities to check-raise you with a flush and didn't do so. Now a wheel is made on the river and he suddenly ships everything in? Smells like he either made a wheel on the turn and is trying to scare you out or he missed hearts and wants the pot badly. If he flopped a flush, good for him, but I'd call pretty happily here. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Not that it isn't possible, but if villain has a flush he couldn't play it any worse.not necessarily. he could've bet turn but i mean if you flop the nuts or a decent flush it's definitely not terribly played.but i still snap here as well Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he'd slowplay the flopped flush on the flop and turn, and then push the river for 2x pot. But some players play the game in a way that just doesn't make sense.Is it possible he's playing the board, and thinks Hero is too, so he's pushing in the hopes that Hero will think he might have the flush and give up his board wheel? Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 not necessarily. he could've bet turn but i mean if you flop the nuts or a decent flush it's definitely not terribly played.but i still snap here as wellIt's pretty terrible if he has a flush unless it's like A4hh or 46hh. He badly doesn't want a 4th heart to come if he has a flush. No matter what he has, if he has the nuts, then he won't get paid more, if he has something like 9Thh he obv doesn't want his flush to become much weaker, there are no high hearts on board, so small flushes need to be playing this very aggro.Over bets are always the nuts, the problem with this is that he shouldn't have the nuts here like at all, it's just played too weird, and he might very well think a 6 is the nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 call call callcall call callcallcallcalll Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 call call callcall call callcallcallcalllThe REASONS are that he only has a flush about 25% of the time. He plays the board and is stealing 25% of the timeHe has a 6 less than 10% of the time. The other 40% of the time, you win outright. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The REASONS are that he only has a flush about 25% of the time. He plays the board and is stealing 25% of the timeHe has a 6 less than 10% of the time. The other 40% of the time, you win outright.Err....what?Villain either has the flush, a 6, or is playing the board. There are no other possibilities. What is this other 40% you speak of? Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 LOL. I think he meant playing the board some more? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Err....what?Villain either has the flush, a 6, or is playing the board. There are no other possibilities. What is this other 40% you speak of?Don't complicate my quality post. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I read the topic title, and figured this would be a fold, but this situation is a super fist pump-snap-helmuth-do a dance-giggle like a madman call. Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDonk 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Free money, nice. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If you had 65 or A6 it might be close, but as you're only beaten by a flush, it's not. Snap. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The REASONS are that he only has a flush about 25% of the time. He plays the board and is stealing 25% of the timeHe has a 6 less than 10% of the time. The other 40% of the time, you win outright. Err....what?Villain either has the flush, a 6, or is playing the board. There are no other possibilities. What is this other 40% you speak of?I really hate how you both of have red chipstacks as your avatar. I usually glance at avatars instead of names to know which post belongs to who, but you're ****ing up my chi! Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 It's pretty terrible if he has a flush unless it's like A4hh or 46hh. He badly doesn't want a 4th heart to come if he has a flush. No matter what he has, if he has the nuts, then he won't get paid more, if he has something like 9Thh he obv doesn't want his flush to become much weaker, there are no high hearts on board, so small flushes need to be playing this very aggro.Over bets are always the nuts, the problem with this is that he shouldn't have the nuts here like at all, it's just played too weird, and he might very well think a 6 is the nuts.Also, I've bet 2 streets on a scary board. So if villain has the flush, he should be shoving the turn because it's highly likely that I will call. Whereas if he waits until the river and it's a heart, I fold out a lot of my range, straights and sets, that would have called a turn raise.Results - I instacalled, villain had QxTh. Ship the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I really hate how you both of have red chipstacks as your avatar. I usually glance at avatars instead of names to know which post belongs to who, but you're ****ing up my chi!You can blame mtdesmoines for that one. I had the chipstack first and he used to have a steelers logo, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 You can blame mtdesmoines for that one. I had the chipstack first and he used to have a steelers logo, I believe. This isn't going to help the situation. He already knows he needs to blame the guy with the red chip stack and not the guy with the red chip stack. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 This isn't going to help the situation. He already knows he needs to blame the guy with the red chip stack and not the guy with the red chip stack. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
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