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First of all, Hi everyone. This is my first post, but I've been lurking for awhile. So I'm at the 1/2 NL table ($100 Max Buy-In) at Foxwoods last weekend. My brother and I sit at the table and there are two guys with $600+ in chips at our end of the table. One guy we'll call "Goatee" because he had one and the other we'll call "Green Bay" because he wore a Packers hat. He also had a tremendous Wisconsin accent, but that has no relevance here... Both good guys and both good players. Also, both players had been there 12+ hours. Anyway, on the hand in question (maybe 1 1/2 hours into my session- I was up over $200 at this time, by the way!!), there are alot of folds and a couple limpers until the pot is raised pre-flop to $12 by Green Bay in the BB (pretty standard raise at this table) and folded around to Goatee, who called in the SB. The flop comes down A88, Rainbow. Goatee thinks for a second and says all in. Green Bay doesn't even think for 1/2 second and calls. Goatee turns over his cards to show 9 10s. He then says: "oh man, that's not 89 suited, is it?" He evidently thought his hole cards were 89s and flopped trips, but he was wrong. Green Bay turns over AK. Neither hand improves on the turn and river and Green Bay takes it down. After that, Goatee rebought, but got up and took a walk for about 20 minutes. I asked Green Bay if he felt bad and he said no. He didn't believe the guy thought he had 89 and thought he was bluffing. Maybe so, but I didn't get that read at all. I know Green Bay must have believed that, though, otherwise how could he have called so quick with AK? Anyway, it was a stunning turn of events and I don't think my brother or I will ever hesitate to look back at our cards to make sure we have what we think we have...Sorry about the length of this post.

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welcome to the forumsounds like a bluff to me, if he really had the 8s then you think he would have tried to suck some play from the dude.

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That what happens when you play for that long. Happened to me the other nite after a 17 hr session. To make a long story short I thought I flopped a straight with 910 in the SB. Flop was 8JQ and ways I didn't had 810 and was check raising to a set of queens. Cost me nearly $150. Probably one of the only hands I got involved in in months where I didn't recheck my hole cards. Needless to say I quit after that. I even said straight at the showdown. And he screamed fck but the other players quickly realized as did I that I had a lonely pair of eights. :oops:

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welcome to the forumsounds like a bluff to me, if he really had the 8s then you think he would have tried to suck some play from the dude.
Agreed. He pushed what 580 (ish) chips into a pot of 30 or so? There is very little reason to do that if you have the 8. Especially against another stack of that size... seems like a bluff... and a fairly bad one.I'd guess that the other stack that had been there as long had seen him make those kind of plays before.
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welcome to the forumsounds like a bluff to me, if he really had the 8s then you think he would have tried to suck some play from the dude.
Agreed. He pushed what 580 (ish) chips into a pot of 30 or so? There is very little reason to do that if you have the 8. Especially against another stack of that size... seems like a bluff... and a fairly bad one.
If you're going to get called instantly by AK, a massive jam by the 8 is a pretty good play.
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I guess you're right. I just couldn't believe somebody would make a $600 bluff like that. I could see if he had done that against a smaller stack, but it just seems like a real bad play. And it was...

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First of all, Hi everyone.  This is my first post, but I've been lurking for awhile.  So I'm at the 1/2 NL table ($100 Max Buy-In) at Foxwoods last weekend.  My brother and I sit at the table and there are two guys with $600+ in chips at our end of the table.  One guy we'll call "Goatee" because he had one and the other we'll call "Green Bay" because he wore a Packers hat.  He also had a tremendous Wisconsin accent, but that has no relevance here...  Both good guys and both good players.  Also, both players had been there 12+ hours.  Anyway, on the hand in question (maybe 1 1/2 hours into my session- I was up over $200 at this time, by the way!!), there are alot of folds and a couple limpers until the pot is raised pre-flop to $12 by Green Bay in the BB (pretty standard raise at this table) and folded around to Goatee, who called in the SB.  The flop comes down A88, Rainbow.  Goatee thinks for a second and says all in.  Green Bay doesn't even think for 1/2 second and calls.  Goatee turns over his cards to show 9 10s.  He then says: "oh man, that's not 89 suited, is it?"  He evidently thought his hole cards were 89s and flopped trips, but he was wrong.  Green Bay turns over AK.  Neither hand improves on the turn and river and Green Bay takes it down.  After that, Goatee rebought, but got up and took a walk for about 20 minutes.  I asked Green Bay if he felt bad and he said no.  He didn't believe the guy thought he had 89 and thought he was bluffing.  Maybe so, but I didn't get that read at all.  I know Green Bay must have believed that, though, otherwise how could he have called so quick with AK?  Anyway, it was a stunning turn of events and I don't  think my brother or I will ever hesitate to look back at our cards to make sure we have what we think we have...Sorry about the length of this post.
I would say the guiy probably thought hew had 8-9.Why would he push for 24$ and risk 600.And why to call so quick with just an ace against a paired board?Very strange turn of events.Thats life at the woods.
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