1/2 Nl Live

[melaskins 0]

I'm big stack by consistent play after about 5 hours of play. I started with $100 on the table had AA twice to hold up KK twice to hold up once and have about $450 in front of me. This hand was 5 hands after I won a $200 pot with AA over KK and a few hands before that one, I had won a $140 pot with a full house from the sb. The young kid in the bb started with $60 and had worked it up to almost $200 with some pretty good all in plays against guys that usually don't fold. Once he got them to fold and once he made a river boat. He is almost gloating and just really proud of his chips. But nobody has really stoop up to him because he has been playing pretty loose.So I get T2o in the sb. A hand that I usually don't even complete with. It's just throwing away chips and paying the casino. This time there were 4 or 5 limpers and I had a pretty strong rep at the table. The flop is QcJc2d. I check. BB bets 15. It folds to me. I should fold and wish that I hadn't even played. I wasn't going to just call so I put in a raise to $30. The kid stops and thinks about his move. I figure if he comes over the top of me, my jig is up. He just calls. The turn is 8c. I instantly stick a stack of $50 in the pot. The kid stops to think again and then finally calls. At this point, I am either shoving or check/folding the river. It's a 9d. Now I want money. I stick another $50 in the pot. Thinking about what Navarro and Caro say, I am making every move I can to get this kid to call me. He finally folds. I played for about 5 more minutes. When I got up to leave, I told the kid what I had done. That was probably the most fun I have had in a hand.

[DonkSlayer 1]

[JaysForLife 0]

nice hit and run donk

[melaskins 0]

nice hit and run donk

There's a difference between a donk play and a bluff. I was bluffing all the way to the river. When the kid froze, I knew he didn't have a Q or a J in his hand. I represented a big hand or a draw. The kid was on a good run but got a little too full of himself. When I told him what I was playing, he told me that he had a lower pocket pair. He should've never called the first check raise bluff. A donk play, in my book, is calling bets when you have nothing and get lucky. Think about it, it's 1/2 and I bet $50 on the turn.

[DonkSlayer 1]

There's a difference between a donk play and a bluff. I was bluffing all the way to the river. When the kid froze, I knew he didn't have a Q or a J in his hand. I represented a big hand or a draw. The kid was on a good run but got a little too full of himself. When I told him what I was playing, he told me that he had a lower pocket pair. He should've never called the first check raise bluff. A donk play, in my book, is calling bets when you have nothing and get lucky. Think about it, it's 1/2 and I bet $50 on the turn.

[nutzzcase 0]

you are the kind of guy I wouldn't want at my table (and not for skill reasons)

[donk4life 34]

Um. What makes this hand so interesting again?

[NoBBiR 0]

Srsly?Nobody cares that you backdoored perfect and want to gloat about it. You seriously just rambled off two paragraphs about this "young kid" being arrogant and now you're bragging that you made stupid bluffs, and then backdoored perfect into a straight?GTFO.

[MNmiracleCJS 0]

ZOMG!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesick brag"hmm.... am i good? .....Nope""ok well maybe I can get him to fold to my bottom pair.......Darn""9..... ZOMG (hand shaking)...... you folded?!?!? look at how big a donk I am you had me crushed (most likely) and then you don't pay me on the river with a 4 to a straight on the board?!?!""That's old school poker son maybe if you left the computer you'd figure it out"

[donk4life 34]

Ok, I'm going to be honest. I strongly dislike you for having an Emilio Estevez avatar. I know it's petty and pathetic, but I don't care. You're fucking weird for having him as your picture. To go along with that, it looks like he's constipated.

[Shark527 0]

Ok, I'm going to be honest. I strongly dislike you for having an Emilio Estevez avatar. I know it's petty and pathetic, but I don't care.

Les Averman: Just so you know, we really suck. Gordon Bombay: Hey, I'll decide who sucks around here.

[MNmiracleCJS 0]

Ok, I'm going to be honest. I strongly dislike you for having an Emilio Estevez avatar. I know it's petty and pathetic, but I don't care. You're fucking weird for having him as your picture. To go along with that, it looks like he's constipated.

OK by me, Gordon Bombay: Didn't you guys practice in the offseasonLes Averman: Practice? I knew we forgot something

[FARGOpokerND 22]

I'm big stack by consistent play after about 5 hours of play. I started with $100 on the table had AA twice to hold up KK twice to hold up once and have about $450 in front of me. This hand was 5 hands after I won a $200 pot with AA over KK and a few hands before that one, I had won a $140 pot with a full house from the sb. The young kid in the bb started with $60 and had worked it up to almost $200 with some pretty good all in plays against guys that usually don't fold. Once he got them to fold and once he made a river boat. He is almost gloating and just really proud of his chips. But nobody has really stoop up to him because he has been playing pretty loose.So I get T2o in the sb. A hand that I usually don't even complete with. It's just throwing away chips and paying the casino. This time there were 4 or 5 limpers and I had a pretty strong rep at the table. The flop is QcJc2d. I check. BB bets 15. It folds to me. I should fold and wish that I hadn't even played. I wasn't going to just call so I put in a raise to $30. The kid stops and thinks about his move. I figure if he comes over the top of me, my jig is up. He just calls. The turn is 8c. I instantly stick a stack of $50 in the pot. The kid stops to think again and then finally calls. At this point, I am either shoving or check/folding the river. It's a 9d. Now I want money. I stick another $50 in the pot. Thinking about what Navarro and Caro say, I am making every move I can to get this kid to call me. He finally folds. I played for about 5 more minutes. When I got up to leave, I told the kid what I had done. That was probably the most fun I have had in a hand.

First off, your post has NOTHING to do with strategy.But I will push on anyways. You wouldn't even be posting this if he had KTcc and then decides to shove over your river bet.You wouldn't be posting this if he had QJ and river was a T and you paid off his river shove.You fucked this hand up all over and somehow you are proud of it, give me a break.

[melaskins 0]

I felt like it was a good play. Not because I hit the strt but because of the read. Yes the strt was lucky but the read was spot on. My bad.Note to self: Be careful what hands you post on the forum.

[FARGOpokerND 22]

I felt like it was a good play. Not because I hit the strt but because of the read. Yes the strt was lucky but the read was spot on. My bad.Note to self: Be careful what hands you post on the forum.

So you are telling me that you planned on min-raising the flop OOP and betting small on the turn and then planned on bluffing big on the river, knowing he had a small pair and would call two streets of value and then fold to your shove?Sounds pretty sketchy to me. Sounds like you made a play not really knowing what you were doing at the time, then on the car ride home somehow justified it in your mind to the point where it looked like you had a plan all along.If you really put him on a small pair, raise more on flop and get him out.And you still have yet to point out any specific strategy in this hand.

[NoBBiR 0]

I felt like it was a good play. Not because I hit the strt but because of the read. Yes the strt was lucky but the read was spot on. My bad.Note to self: Be careful what hands you post on the forum.

This is a strategy forum.Your post was not strategy. It was brag.

[melaskins 0]

So you are telling me that you planned on min-raising the flop OOP and betting small on the turn and then planned on bluffing big on the river, knowing he had a small pair and would call two streets of value and then fold to your shove?Sounds pretty sketchy to me. Sounds like you made a play not really knowing what you were doing at the time, then on the car ride home somehow justified it in your mind to the point where it looked like you had a plan all along.If you really put him on a small pair, raise more on flop and get him out.And you still have yet to point out any specific strategy in this hand.

Honestly, I mistakenly put this on the strat forum. My bookmark goes to the strategy forums and this was my first post in a cash game thread. I was not paying attention. And that is an admitted mistake. No I did not plan on minraising OOP. I didn't justify my play on the way home. When he bet and everybody folded and it came to me, I looked at the flop for a moment and I figured I would find out what this kid had. $15 more to a kid that put $60 on the table, combined with the way he had been playing, was going to let me know what he had. A few hands before this one, he shoved pckt 9's on the turn of a board with 3422. He spiked a nine and beat an A high flush. When I raised him, I knew that if he had a Q, he was coming over the top of me. If he had a J, he was going to call immediately. When he paused for a good 10-15 seconds, I knew he didn't have either a Q or a J. He was either drawing or had an under pair. When I put the fifty out on the turn, I figured he would either fold or shove and I would have egg on my face when I folded. Again he thought about it for some time before he called. I got lucky on the river and knew I had him. I thought it was fun poker and posted it here. That was a mistake. Obviously, some of you guys are offended that it wasn't a by the rules poker play. And everybody here has taken a bad beat by some joker that has no idea what he's doing. I knew what I was doing in this hand. I was stone cold bluffing all the way to the river. It happens. And really, the bluff was a bit of strategy. Again, my bad. I didn't realize I would touch a nerve with so many folks.

[melaskins 0]

This is a strategy forum.Your post was not strategy. It was brag.

You are right sir. I appreciate you pointing that out to me. I apologize that I have inconvenienced you.

[SwolyswoND 1]

No I did not plan on minraising OOP. I didn't justify my play on the way home. When he bet and everybody folded and it came to me, I looked at the flop for a moment and I figured I would find out what this kid had. $15 more to a kid that put $60 on the table, combined with the way he had been playing, was going to let me know what he had. When I raised him, I knew that if he had a Q, he was coming over the top of me. If he had a J, he was going to call immediately. When he paused for a good 10-15 seconds, I knew he didn't have either a Q or a J. He was either drawing or had an under pair. When I put the fifty out on the turn, I figured he would either fold or shove and I would have egg on my face when I folded.

So you raised the flop - not for value or as a bluff - but to "find out what this kid had." And you minraised it, which tells you absolutely nothing.And then you figured that if he had a naked Q on a board of QJ2cc that he was going to 3bet you.And because he paused for FIFTEEN whole seconds, you knew he didnt have a Q or a J and had an underpair? On an extremely drawy board?My head hurts.

[TrueAce13 18]

ummm...why the **** are you completing T2o?!

[GreeneStreet 0]

ummm...why the **** are you completing T2o?!

Because...

This time there were 4 or 5 limpers and I had a pretty strong rep at the table.

duh

[KingJames 11]

If villain is on the draw, doesn't the 8c complete both flush and straight draws?Now, if you put him on a made hand, bluffing when the flush/straight card comes would be more reasonable.But if villain doesn't fold 99 on an 2234 board with a flush possible, should we be trying to bluff him? Remember to save your "stone-cold bluffs" for competant players who can lay a hand down...

[NoBBiR 0]

So you raised the flop - not for value or as a bluff - but to "find out what this kid had." And you minraised it, which tells you absolutely nothing.And then you figured that if he had a naked Q on a board of QJ2cc that he was going to 3bet you.And because he paused for FIFTEEN whole seconds, you knew he didnt have a Q or a J and had an underpair? On an extremely drawy board?My head hurts.

If villain is on the draw, doesn't the 8c complete both flush and straight draws?Now, if you put him on a made hand, bluffing when the flush/straight card comes would be more reasonable.But if villain doesn't fold 99 on an 2234 board with a flush possible, should we be trying to bluff him? Remember to save your "stone-cold bluffs" for competant players who can lay a hand down...

Why are you even bothering with this guy, lolololz. It's not worth it