93s In The Small Blind, Would You Ever Call?

[DocHoliday 0]

I've decided to complete here, as I figured there was enough money to see the flop... Then BB raised, and both of them called... So, my questions: Do you ever make that call? And what do you do on this flop?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00+$0.20 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton (t4440)Hero (SB) (t4880)BB (t6830)UTG (t2930)MP (t1900)CO (t6900)Hero's M: 65.07Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 , 9 2 folds, CO calls t50, Button calls t50, Hero calls t25, BB bets t250, CO calls t200, Button calls t200, Hero calls t200Flop: (t1000) K , 3 , 3 (4 players)And to add this one here, so I would not open another thread... What is the hand percentage you generally play in a 6-max MTT, e.g. number of hands total played in a tourney?

[SwolyswoND 1]

This is an easy fold PF. And that's talking about the open complete, not even counting the raise. As played, I take the lead here. FD might look you up at a decent price but won't call a check raise, and if you c/c this down you lose too much value when it checks behind. C/c actually looks far stronger than leading.

[TrueAce13 18]

Blah, I don't mind the complete b/c we can strike gin on flops like this, and we are decently deep...I don't like the call of the raise though. From here....you lead, you bet...and you keep on betting until all the chips are in the middle

[Yahkin 0]

Well, you are getting 7-1 to complete and pokerstoke says we are 20% against 3 others at top 50% of hands...so that's ok.Only getting 4-1 to call the reraise though, and we have to tighten up BB's range...so we shouldn't be calling the reraise.

[DocHoliday 0]

So I should lead... So I made a mistake, since I checked, figuring that someone out there would have a K and lead out, and I wanted to make CR so as to really price out the potential FDs...As for the call PF, yeah I guess it was pretty terrible...

[SwolyswoND 1]

Well, you are getting 7-1 to complete and pokerstoke says we are 20% against 3 others at top 50% of hands...so that's ok.Only getting 4-1 to call the reraise though, and we have to tighten up BB's range...so we shouldn't be calling the reraise.

We might have that equity if we get to showdown, but that includes a ton of one pair hands that we'd have to play oop...too many times we will never see that equity b/c we can't make it to a SD.There is nothing wrong with never getting yourself into trouble playing shitty hands from the blinds.

[Solar 0]

first call is marginal at best, second one is bad.

[kkot 0]

We might have that equity if we get to showdown, but that includes a ton of one pair hands that we'd have to play oop...too many times we will never see that equity b/c we can't make it to a SD.There is nothing wrong with never getting yourself into trouble playing shitty hands from the blinds.

This. Hot/cold Equity isn't totally useful here because we don't get to auto-showdown. Even if we gin the flop like this, it's going to be hard to get max value for our hands because we're OOP. And as SwolyswoND said, our 1 pair hands are going to be a nightmare to play. These are all reasons why I don't like completing. Calling the raise is really really bad.

[RISEorFall 0]

so at what point are we completing preflop? yeah, our position really sucks, but our hand isn't completely worthless, as long as we know what we're looking for. we can stack a lot of limping hands like 87/76/65 of hearts, and as long as we're not stacking off with TPNK in deepstacked situations, we cant get into too much trouble with this hand. if we flop two pair or better and run into a better hand thats just a cooler and doesnt have much to do with our hand. yeah, this hand can get you into some tough situations if you aren't comfortable playing post flop. i dont know if 7-1 is good enough odds to flop two pair or better (someone probably does, tho) but at some point completing here is not horribly wrong. definately fold to the raise tho, and dont be so results oriented.

[DocHoliday 0]

I'm not results oriented, I am aware that I just happened to be extremely lucky in this one... That is why I posted. So, calling a raise here is definitely a no-no OK, thanks for the insight. I am looking to improve and really appreciate all this info. As it did happen in this hand, I checked, BB checked, CO led for 200, Button called, and I made it 1200. I was happy to just take the pot right there. BB folded, CO called, Button folded. Turn was 6s, and I really wanted to move to charge that FD (as I figured) so I moved in. He insta called with KQo and I stacked him. I guess he played it even worse than I did. But no more calling raises with 93s thank you

[Yahkin 0]

We might have that equity if we get to showdown, but that includes a ton of one pair hands that we'd have to play oop...too many times we will never see that equity b/c we can't make it to a SD.There is nothing wrong with never getting yourself into trouble playing shitty hands from the blinds.

Just giving the math. I'm quite nitty when it comes to the SB and rarely complete. Although in this spot with such a deep stack, suited cards and a couple limpers I would consider it. Then kick myself when the BB raises and I have just wasted 25 chips.

[kkot 0]

Just giving the math. I'm quite nitty when it comes to the SB and rarely complete. Although in this spot with such a deep stack, suited cards and a couple limpers I would consider it. Then kick myself when the BB raises and I have just wasted 25 chips.

I completely misread the hand history and thought it was offsuit. Completing here is definitely fine the first time it gets to us.

[DonkSlayer 1]

I think it's better than really bad because of the stack sizes that we're going to see a flop against, assuming we can get away from 9-hi flops, etc. If the 1900t guy was in there, or the big stacks were uber tight, I would think differently.

[JSpencer 0]

Is the first call really marginal? Seems like calling with 3 9 after someone bets at a 6 handed table is a bad idea. Maybe that's just me.As far as post flop goes, also a pretty bad play. bet a small amount post flop, medium amount on the turn, and a large amount on the river