MaxStPolish 4 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 So I'm playing a 1R/1A Omaha trny on stars right now. I already had to rebuy early on. Since I've accumlated the 3rd place stack. It's hella early though.But I don't usually ever play Rebuy trnies. So comes my procedural question. Do I buy the add on if I'm still olding a top 10 stack at the break?? And for my future knowledge, is there any sort of standard on when to do or not do an add on??? My thought would be you'd do it for sure if you were below your inital stack level, as that rebuy is like new life. Not sure if it's as equitable/relevant of a play if ur near the top.Let me know FCP. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I always rebuy right away and add on every time (esp in that plo 1r1a tourney) Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Deciding to add on is really a matter of what impact it will have on your chip stack. I used to know the formula, but if you hit the add on with 20K in chips buying an additional $2k is burning money.I would say if you have the next biggest stack on your table doubled you can consider passing on the addon- but it usually a good idea to take it. Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Always rebuy at beginning, there is a point where adding on becomes v slightly unprofitable but it's usually safe to just add on everytime. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Always rebuy at beginning, there is a point where adding on becomes v slightly unprofitable but it's usually safe to just add on everytime.I can never get enough chips to warrent it :-( Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 I added on, figured even if there is a case against it situationally, the standard is to take it. 19,700 at break. 7/92 or something.Figured 2nd stack at table added on to get to 14k, so i may as well.thx for help. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH.I've been flawless, sans maybe one or two relatively small pots. I knew he was aces, hoped not the diamonds.....but then turn euphoria, river sickness.PokerStars Game #28326048632: Tournament #162034398, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/05/18 1:55:20 ETTable '162034398 7' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: TheSportsBet (6920 in chips) Seat 2: oligario (14858 in chips) Seat 3: gtholdem (21482 in chips) Seat 4: moneyo888 (10880 in chips) Seat 5: okgoplay (53135 in chips) Seat 6: acillatem (39626 in chips) Seat 7: MaxStPolish (45035 in chips) Seat 8: T8yourmoney (8770 in chips) Seat 9: thebulk2 (24175 in chips) acillatem: posts small blind 300MaxStPolish: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to MaxStPolish [6s Jd Kd Tc]T8yourmoney: folds thebulk2: raises 1200 to 1800TheSportsBet: folds oligario: folds gtholdem: folds moneyo888: folds okgoplay: folds acillatem: folds MaxStPolish: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [Th 6d 5d]MaxStPolish: checks thebulk2: bets 3000MaxStPolish: raises 7800 to 10800thebulk2: raises 11575 to 22375 and is all-inMaxStPolish: calls 11575*** TURN *** [Th 6d 5d] [6c]*** RIVER *** [Th 6d 5d 6c] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***MaxStPolish: shows [6s Jd Kd Tc] (a full house, Sixes full of Tens)thebulk2: shows [Qd Ad 4d Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Sixes)thebulk2 collected 48650 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 48650 | Rake 0 Board [Th 6d 5d 6c As]Seat 1: TheSportsBet folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: oligario folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: gtholdem folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: moneyo888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: okgoplay (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: acillatem (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: MaxStPolish (big blind) showed [6s Jd Kd Tc] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of TensSeat 8: T8yourmoney folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: thebulk2 showed [Qd Ad 4d Ah] and won (48650) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Well....at final table.Coming in 8/9 and in bad shape on fumes.....but we'll see!!!162034398 PS Omaha 11 (R+A) Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 So it goes......PokerStars Game #28327653861: Tournament #162034398, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2009/05/18 3:46:28 ETTable '162034398 13' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: samig66 (4381 in chips) is sitting outSeat 2: MaxStPolish (14373 in chips) Seat 3: acillatem (40700 in chips) Seat 4: thebulk2 (164100 in chips) Seat 5: elbiouy (71099 in chips) Seat 6: hater79 (335676 in chips) Seat 8: pokerbumsDK (175173 in chips) Seat 9: keiffdogg (112498 in chips) samig66: posts small blind 1500MaxStPolish: posts big blind 3000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to MaxStPolish [Ks 3s 2c As]acillatem: folds thebulk2: folds elbiouy: folds hater79: calls 3000pokerbumsDK said, "u call if i shove hater?"pokerbumsDK: calls 3000keiffdogg: calls 3000samig66: folds MaxStPolish: checks *** FLOP *** [6d Qc Kc]hater79 said, "no"pokerbumsDK said, "**** me.. nh"MaxStPolish: bets 11373 and is all-inhater79: calls 11373pokerbumsDK: folds keiffdogg: folds *** TURN *** [6d Qc Kc] [Jc]*** RIVER *** [6d Qc Kc Jc] [Js]*** SHOW DOWN ***MaxStPolish: shows [Ks 3s 2c As] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)hater79: shows [Qs Th Ad 4d] (a straight, Ten to Ace)pokerbumsDK said, "gg"hater79 collected 36246 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 36246 | Rake 0 Board [6d Qc Kc Jc Js]Seat 1: samig66 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: MaxStPolish (big blind) showed [Ks 3s 2c As] and lost with two pair, Kings and JacksSeat 3: acillatem folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: thebulk2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: elbiouy folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: hater79 showed [Qs Th Ad 4d] and won (36246) with a straight, Ten to AceSeat 8: pokerbumsDK folded on the FlopSeat 9: keiffdogg (button) folded on the Flop Link to post Share on other sites
dscoot 0 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 i personally like to play rebuys on one barrel. In the grand scheme of things, if you are going to end up with 300,000 chips 5hours later and playing heads up at the final table, i dont really think the extra 1500 to start with or the extra 2000addon is gonna change your course that much. plus if you play on one shell, anytime you just barely cash you get around 5x your buyin, which lets you freeroll in 5 more of those tournys.also some games are more volatile than others. 2k chips more in plo8 is practically nothing, as the pots are so huge (blinds too), and luck is a bigger factor in big pf allins, sometimes that extra 2k doesnt even let you see one more hand if your up against a big stack.if you want a formula on when to add 2k , i would say if you only have 5k or less. but then again, how much is 2k more really gonna change things in the grand scheme? i'd just save the buyin for another tourny and play with 5k.now FL is another story , but in NL or PL, oftentimes when you do get in that one big pot, the addon doesnt give you an extra life if you happen to lose it. Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 i personally like to play rebuys on one barrel. In the grand scheme of things, if you are going to end up with 300,000 chips 5hours later and playing heads up at the final table, i dont really think the extra 1500 to start with or the extra 2000addon is gonna change your course that much. plus if you play on one shell, anytime you just barely cash you get around 5x your buyin, which lets you freeroll in 5 more of those tournys.also some games are more volatile than others. 2k chips more in plo8 is practically nothing, as the pots are so huge (blinds too), and luck is a bigger factor in big pf allins, sometimes that extra 2k doesnt even let you see one more hand if your up against a big stack.if you want a formula on when to add 2k , i would say if you only have 5k or less. but then again, how much is 2k more really gonna change things in the grand scheme? i'd just save the buyin for another tourny and play with 5k.now FL is another story , but in NL or PL, oftentimes when you do get in that one big pot, the addon doesnt give you an extra life if you happen to lose it.dear god. Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 rofl.no words. Link to post Share on other sites
JustLikeNegs 1 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 rofl.no words.this sums that post up. i tried to think of something to say but nothing says how LOL it is! Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 dear god. rofl.no words. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 dscoot,1500 chips doubled 5 times = 48k3000 chips doubled 5 times = 96k Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 i got excited when i saw dscoot's name. advice A+ as always. also, please fold the first hand you posted from the blinds. Link to post Share on other sites
dscoot 0 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I love how people say poker is harder to win today than in the past. I think those people are not as good and not adapting to the new styles and improving themselves.IN the past, a $5 buyin/rebuy with $25 add-on didnt exist - and it still shouldnt. But on pokerstars they have those tournys now and plenty of people pay the 25bux add-on. The existence of this tourny alone means to me the game is not harder today than it was before. Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I love how people say poker is harder to win today than in the past. I think those people are not as good and not adapting to the new styles and improving themselves.IN the past, a $5 buyin/rebuy with $25 add-on didnt exist - and it still shouldnt. But on pokerstars they have those tournys now and plenty of people pay the 25bux add-on. The existence of this tourny alone means to me the game is not harder today than it was before.That's an instance of a super -ev add on.The existence of you means to me that poker is still insanely profitable. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 That's an instance of a super -ev add on.The existence of you means to me that poker is still insanely profitable.QFT Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I love how people say poker is harder to win today than in the past. I think those people are not as good and not adapting to the new styles and improving themselves.IN the past, a $5 buyin/rebuy with $25 add-on didnt exist - and it still shouldnt. But on pokerstars they have those tournys now and plenty of people pay the 25bux add-on. The existence of this tourny alone means to me the game is not harder today than it was before.If we didn't have a sports bet going on, I would bet my bankroll you are a joke account. Poker is extremely tougher than it was 5 years ago. If you get deep in the 100r on stars, the vast majority of people are playing unexploitably. Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 If we didn't have a sports bet going on, I would bet my bankroll you are a joke account. Poker is extremely tougher than it was 5 years ago. If you get deep in the 100r on stars, the mast majority of people are playing unexploitably. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'd actually like to know the answer to the OP. I don't think I've ever been in a spot where I considered not adding on. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 You should only skip the add on if you have more than half the chips in play, so never. Link to post Share on other sites
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