Dont Tase Me Bro!

[dna4ever 2]

Damn I soooooo wish I had a video camera on my cell phone.Its about 2:30 AM and just got back from my local bar. Big ass fight breaks out and the wanna be security guards there start beating down this one dude, fight escalates and they break out the taser and are absolutely wearing this dude out with it. He is flailing on the ground like a fish and the crowd starts getting pissed off cause the dude is down and this rent a cop keeps tasing the guy.This dude had to get tased like 4 of 5 times after he was down and all these side fights starting breaking out. About 7 real cops show up, the fire department, ambulances, etc. It was like The Christmas Story, we were in the background going 'HOLY SMOKES, IT'S THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'Anywho, some crazy shizit, thought I would share. That shizit had to be cnn or at least youtube worthy. The dudes girlfiend was all balling crying and the dude's 'homies' were all looking to meet the rent a cop on his way out the door. Good times on another wild and crazy Saturday night is hickenville TN

[rcgs59 15]

lots of reports out there that the tasers can actually kill you if you are not using it correctly. Or if the person who is being Tasered has a seizure disorder or heart condition. So if they shot him serveral times I wondered what kind of condition he is in?The electric impulses can cause a short curuit of the hearts own pace maker sending the heart into what we call Afib or even send someone into a major seizure disorder. I am not sure that they are fully usefull in even police work and that Bar security guys should not be allowed to use them.

[HubDub04 0]

Sounds like a bunch of pussies for "security guards/bouncers".If I were that guy i'd definitely get some sort of revenge on those bastards.

[FCP Bob 1,321]

I think the guy who was tazed should contact this guy and sue the bar, after all it's the US where everybody sues everybody.

[chrozzo 19]

radical!

[dna4ever 2]

lots of reports out there that the tasers can actually kill you if you are not using it correctly. Or if the person who is being Tasered has a seizure disorder or heart condition. So if they shot him serveral times I wondered what kind of condition he is in?The electric impulses can cause a short curuit of the hearts own pace maker sending the heart into what we call Afib or even send someone into a major seizure disorder. I am not sure that they are fully usefull in even police work and that Bar security guys should not be allowed to use them.

We were asking the same questions. are they even allowed to use them?Ambulance was pulling in as we were leaving so not sure his statusthey hit him at LEAST 4 times and that two of them were after he was already on the ground doing absolutely nothing other than trying to talk to make his case. the crowd was so uber pissed and I thought there was going to be a big melee from the guys friends.

[GeneralGeeWhiz 0]

I think the guy who was tazed should contact this guy and sue the bar, after all it's the US where everybody sues everybody.

too bad he is dead. lol.

[speedz99 145]

what we call Afib

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[rcgs59 15]

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Afib sends the heart beating super fast. So the Taser would send electric impulses to the heart telling it to beat faster or to stop beating. actually sometimes it works in 3 stages. shock from tasers ---> Afib---------> Vfib-----> Heart stops-------> Death occursvfib is more dangerous, and most likely can occur with tasers as well.ATRIAL FIBRILLATION OVERVIEW In Atrial Fibrillation (A-Fib) the upper part of your heart beats (quivers) faster than the rest of your heart. If you could look inside your chest, the top part of your heart would be shaking like Jell-O or beating more rapidly than the lower section of your heart. You feel an uncomfortable flutter in your chest or like your heart is going to jump out of your ribs or that your heart is "flip-flopping around." Your pulse is irregular and/or more rapid than normal. Someone described their A-Fib as "...like a motor idling too fast in my chest." You may feel lightheaded, very tired, have shortness of breath, sweating and chest pain, and sometimes a distressing need for frequent urination (it isn't clear how A-Fib and frequent urination are related). Some people experience heart of chest pain. Somewhere in your heart extra electrical signals are being generated which cause the top part of your heart to contract and quiver rapidly and irregularly (fibrillate) as many as 300-600 times a minute. (If you'd like an explanation of the various parts of the EKG signal, go to The EKG Signal.) Your whole heart, however, does not beat that fast. Your heart is a muscular pump divided into four chambers---two atria located on the top and two ventricles on the bottom. Normally each heart beat starts in the right atrium where a specialized group of cells called the Sinus Node generates an electrical signal that travels down a single electrical road (the AV Node or AV Junction) that connects the atria to the ventricles below. This electrical signal causes the heart to beat. First, the atria contract, pumping blood into the ventricles. Then, a fraction of a second later. the ventricles contract sending blood throughout the body. Normally the heart beats at 60-80 times per minute. When a doctor or nurse takes your pulse, he/she is counting contractions of your ventricles. In A-Fib, electrical signals from other parts of the heart disrupt your heart's normal rhythm and cause the atria to beat or quiver on their own sometimes as rapidly as 600 times a minute. However, only a small number of these atrial beats make it through the AV Node which acts like a gate to the ventricles. This is fortunate, because you couldn't live with a heart beat that rapid. But some A-Fib beats do make it through the AV Node and make your whole heart beat irregularly and/or faster than normal. Some people have Atrial Flutter along with their A-Fib, or sometimes by itself without A-Fib. In Atrial Flutter the atria don't fibrillate but rather beat faster than the ventricles but in a coordinated, regular rhythm. You can consider Atrial Flutter as a more regular variety of A-Fib. A-Flutter often, though not always, originates in the right atrium, whereas A-Fib usually comes from the left atrium. What are the symptoms of atrial fibrillation?It is possible to have atrial fibrillation without feeling the symptoms generally associated with this condition. The usual symptoms of A-Fib include:Shortness of breath (for instance, when you climb stairs) Heart palpitations (uncomfortable sensation of a racing or irregular heartbeat) Chest pain Light-headedness, dizziness or even fainting Weakness Types of A-FibThere are 3 types of atrial fibrillation: paroxysmal (or intermittent), persistent, and permanent (or chronic).Paroxysmal atrial fibrillation: brief episodes of abnormal heart rhythm that stop on their own. While these episodes are brief, they may still raise the risk of stroke and anticoagulant medication may be needed. Treatment of paroxysmal A-Fib can help patients who find its symptoms uncomfortable or disturbing. Persistent atrial fibrillation: long periods of abnormal heart rhythm during which a normal rhythm can be restored with medication or electrical shock. Permanent atrial fibrillation (also known as chronic atrial fibrillation): regular episodes of abnormal heart rhythm, where symptoms recur until they are treated. Risk factors associated with A-FibIn some people, atrial fibrillation may develop without obvious cause. However, a number of risk factors do exist that may make it more likely for a person to develop this condition. These risk factors include:High blood pressure Heart disease Heart valve disease Diabetes Overactive thyroid Lung disease Age, as well, is a risk factor: the disease is more common in people who are over 60. Lifestyle choices may also contribute to A-Fib, including excessive alcohol intake and the use of stimulants such as decongestants and coffee and drugs such as cocaine.How is A-Fib diagnosed?The same tests that are used to diagnose other arrhythmias are useful in determining if you have atrial fibrillation. See “How is an Arrhythmia Diagnosed?” for a description of these tests.Treatment and its ObjectivesThere are two primary objectives in treating A-Fib.1) To restore the heart’s normal rhythmIf A-Fib is left untreated, it may, over time, weaken the heart and lead to permanent damage. Restoring the heart’s regular rhythm can relieve the symptoms of A-Fib, considerably reducing the risk of dangerous blood clots developing.2) To reduce the risk of strokeMany patients with A-Fib use anticoagulant medication along with other treatments. This medication contributes to preventing clots, reducing the risk of stroke.In some cases, another objective of treating A-Fib is to slow the heart rate and relieve symptoms without necessarily stopping the irregular heart rhythm. Slowing the heart rate allows the heart to pump oxygen-rich blood more efficiently, alleviating some or all the symptoms of A-Fib and helping to prevent the heart muscle from weakening. But it should be understood that slowing down and controlling rapid heart rates does not deal with the underlying arrhythmia. People with A-Fib should discuss the best course of action regarding treatment with their doctor.Vfib Ventricular fibrillation (V-fib or VF) is a condition in which there is uncoordinated contraction of the cardiac muscle of the ventricles in the heart, making them tremble rather than contract properly. Ventricular fibrillation is a medical emergency. If the arrhythmia continues for more than a few seconds, blood circulation will cease, and death may occur in a matter of minutesConsequencesVentricular fibrillation is a cause of cardiac arrest and sudden cardiac death. The ventricular muscle twitches randomly, rather than contracting in unison, and so the ventricles fail to pump blood into the arteries and into systemic circulation.Ventricular fibrillation is a sudden lethal arrhythmia responsible for many deaths in the Western world, mostly brought on by ischaemic heart disease. Despite much work, the underlying nature of fibrillation is not completely understood. Most episodes of fibrillation occur in diseased hearts, but others occur in so-called normal hearts. Much work still has to be done to elucidate the mechanisms of ventricular fibrillation[edit] Defibrillation[edit] Electric defibrillatorThe condition can often be reversed by the electric discharge of direct current from a defibrillator. Although a defibrillator is designed to correct the problem, and its effects can be dramatic, it is not always successful.[edit] Implantable electric defibrillatorIn patients at high risk of ventricular fibrillation, the use of an implantable cardioverter defibrillator has been shown to be beneficial.[edit] Precordial thumpIf no defibrillator is available, a precordial thump can be delivered at the onset of VF to regain cardiac function. However, research has shown that the precordial thump releases no more than 30 joules of energy[citation needed]. This is far less than the 300–360 J required to bring about normal sinus rhythm. Consequently, in the hospital setting, this treatment is not used.[edit] Antiarrhythmic agentsAntiarrhythmic agents like amiodarone or lidocaine can help, but, unlike atrial fibrillation, ventricular fibrillation rarely reverses spontaneously in large adult mammals.

[James D 0]

Afib sends the heart beating super fast. So the Taser would send electric impulses to the heart telling it to beat faster or to stop beating. actually sometimes it works in 3 stages. shock from tasers ---> Afib---------> Vfib-----> Heart stops-------> Death occursvfib is more dangerous, and most likely can occur with tasers as well.ATRIAL FIBRILLATION OVERVIEW In Atrial Fibrillation (A-Fib) the upper part of your heart beats (quivers) faster than the rest of your heart. If you could look inside your chest, the top part of your heart would be shaking like Jell-O or beating more rapidly than the lower section of your heart. You feel an uncomfortable flutter in your chest or like your heart is going to jump out of your ribs or that your heart is "flip-flopping around." Your pulse is irregular and/or more rapid than normal. Someone described their A-Fib as "...like a motor idling too fast in my chest." You may feel lightheaded, very tired, have shortness of breath, sweating and chest pain, and sometimes a distressing need for frequent urination (it isn't clear how A-Fib and frequent urination are related). Some people experience heart of chest pain. Somewhere in your heart extra electrical signals are being generated which cause the top part of your heart to contract and quiver rapidly and irregularly (fibrillate) as many as 300-600 times a minute. (If you'd like an explanation of the various parts of the EKG signal, go to The EKG Signal.) Your whole heart, however, does not beat that fast. Your heart is a muscular pump divided into four chambers---two atria located on the top and two ventricles on the bottom. Normally each heart beat starts in the right atrium where a specialized group of cells called the Sinus Node generates an electrical signal that travels down a single electrical road (the AV Node or AV Junction) that connects the atria to the ventricles below. This electrical signal causes the heart to beat. First, the atria contract, pumping blood into the ventricles. Then, a fraction of a second later. the ventricles contract sending blood throughout the body. Normally the heart beats at 60-80 times per minute. When a doctor or nurse takes your pulse, he/she is counting contractions of your ventricles. In A-Fib, electrical signals from other parts of the heart disrupt your heart's normal rhythm and cause the atria to beat or quiver on their own sometimes as rapidly as 600 times a minute. However, only a small number of these atrial beats make it through the AV Node which acts like a gate to the ventricles. This is fortunate, because you couldn't live with a heart beat that rapid. But some A-Fib beats do make it through the AV Node and make your whole heart beat irregularly and/or faster than normal. Some people have Atrial Flutter along with their A-Fib, or sometimes by itself without A-Fib. In Atrial Flutter the atria don't fibrillate but rather beat faster than the ventricles but in a coordinated, regular rhythm. You can consider Atrial Flutter as a more regular variety of A-Fib. A-Flutter often, though not always, originates in the right atrium, whereas A-Fib usually comes from the left atrium. What are the symptoms of atrial fibrillation?It is possible to have atrial fibrillation without feeling the symptoms generally associated with this condition. The usual symptoms of A-Fib include:Shortness of breath (for instance, when you climb stairs) Heart palpitations (uncomfortable sensation of a racing or irregular heartbeat) Chest pain Light-headedness, dizziness or even fainting Weakness Types of A-FibThere are 3 types of atrial fibrillation: paroxysmal (or intermittent), persistent, and permanent (or chronic).Paroxysmal atrial fibrillation: brief episodes of abnormal heart rhythm that stop on their own. While these episodes are brief, they may still raise the risk of stroke and anticoagulant medication may be needed. Treatment of paroxysmal A-Fib can help patients who find its symptoms uncomfortable or disturbing. Persistent atrial fibrillation: long periods of abnormal heart rhythm during which a normal rhythm can be restored with medication or electrical shock. Permanent atrial fibrillation (also known as chronic atrial fibrillation): regular episodes of abnormal heart rhythm, where symptoms recur until they are treated. Risk factors associated with A-FibIn some people, atrial fibrillation may develop without obvious cause. However, a number of risk factors do exist that may make it more likely for a person to develop this condition. These risk factors include:High blood pressure Heart disease Heart valve disease Diabetes Overactive thyroid Lung disease Age, as well, is a risk factor: the disease is more common in people who are over 60. Lifestyle choices may also contribute to A-Fib, including excessive alcohol intake and the use of stimulants such as decongestants and coffee and drugs such as cocaine.How is A-Fib diagnosed?The same tests that are used to diagnose other arrhythmias are useful in determining if you have atrial fibrillation. See “How is an Arrhythmia Diagnosed?” for a description of these tests.Treatment and its ObjectivesThere are two primary objectives in treating A-Fib.1) To restore the heart’s normal rhythmIf A-Fib is left untreated, it may, over time, weaken the heart and lead to permanent damage. Restoring the heart’s regular rhythm can relieve the symptoms of A-Fib, considerably reducing the risk of dangerous blood clots developing.2) To reduce the risk of strokeMany patients with A-Fib use anticoagulant medication along with other treatments. This medication contributes to preventing clots, reducing the risk of stroke.In some cases, another objective of treating A-Fib is to slow the heart rate and relieve symptoms without necessarily stopping the irregular heart rhythm. Slowing the heart rate allows the heart to pump oxygen-rich blood more efficiently, alleviating some or all the symptoms of A-Fib and helping to prevent the heart muscle from weakening. But it should be understood that slowing down and controlling rapid heart rates does not deal with the underlying arrhythmia. People with A-Fib should discuss the best course of action regarding treatment with their doctor.Vfib Ventricular fibrillation (V-fib or VF) is a condition in which there is uncoordinated contraction of the cardiac muscle of the ventricles in the heart, making them tremble rather than contract properly. Ventricular fibrillation is a medical emergency. If the arrhythmia continues for more than a few seconds, blood circulation will cease, and death may occur in a matter of minutesConsequencesVentricular fibrillation is a cause of cardiac arrest and sudden cardiac death. The ventricular muscle twitches randomly, rather than contracting in unison, and so the ventricles fail to pump blood into the arteries and into systemic circulation.Ventricular fibrillation is a sudden lethal arrhythmia responsible for many deaths in the Western world, mostly brought on by ischaemic heart disease. Despite much work, the underlying nature of fibrillation is not completely understood. Most episodes of fibrillation occur in diseased hearts, but others occur in so-called normal hearts. Much work still has to be done to elucidate the mechanisms of ventricular fibrillation[edit] Defibrillation[edit] Electric defibrillatorThe condition can often be reversed by the electric discharge of direct current from a defibrillator. Although a defibrillator is designed to correct the problem, and its effects can be dramatic, it is not always successful.[edit] Implantable electric defibrillatorIn patients at high risk of ventricular fibrillation, the use of an implantable cardioverter defibrillator has been shown to be beneficial.[edit] Precordial thumpIf no defibrillator is available, a precordial thump can be delivered at the onset of VF to regain cardiac function. However, research has shown that the precordial thump releases no more than 30 joules of energy[citation needed]. This is far less than the 300–360 J required to bring about normal sinus rhythm. Consequently, in the hospital setting, this treatment is not used.[edit] Antiarrhythmic agentsAntiarrhythmic agents like amiodarone or lidocaine can help, but, unlike atrial fibrillation, ventricular fibrillation rarely reverses spontaneously in large adult mammals.

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[rcgs59 15]

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do your own search or go to med school lol

[brvheart 1,757]

Damn I soooooo wish I had a video camera on my cell phone.Its about 2:30 AM and just got back from my local bar. Big ass fight breaks out and the wanna be security guards there start beating down this one dude, fight escalates and they break out the taser and are absolutely wearing this dude out with it. He is flailing on the ground like a fish and the crowd starts getting pissed off cause the dude is down and this rent a cop keeps tasing the guy.This dude had to get tased like 4 of 5 times after he was down and all these side fights starting breaking out. About 7 real cops show up, the fire department, ambulances, etc. It was like The Christmas Story, we were in the background going 'HOLY SMOKES, IT'S THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'Anywho, some crazy shizit, thought I would share. That shizit had to be cnn or at least youtube worthy. The dudes girlfiend was all balling crying and the dude's 'homies' were all looking to meet the rent a cop on his way out the door. Good times on another wild and crazy Saturday night is hickenville TN

I wish just one time that something like this would happen to Beans. Can you imagine the retribution? I would pay good money for this to happen. No one tell Beans it's coming.

[Figger 0]

Damn I soooooo wish I had a video camera on my cell phone.

I can't believe your phone doesn't have a camera... Oh, I forgot. Hickenville. Is this what you have?

[dna4ever 2]

I can't believe your phone doesn't have a camera... Oh, I forgot. Hickenville. Is this what you have?

actually I have ...

[chrozzo 19]

actually I have ...

looks like you have 3 new messages!but wait!!!! how is it May 25th there already!?

[grocery_mony 8]

looks like you have 3 new messages!but wait!!!! how is it May 25th there already!?

diffrent time zone obviously

[dna4ever 2]

So went back to this bar last night to play some poker and talked with the bar owner whom I've known for years.He asked me what I thought about what went down and I told him I didnt see how it started, but the whole tasing multiple times thing seemed excessive.He goes on to tell me the whole story ....Apparently last week some chick comes in and catches her man that she is living with at the bar with some other girl so she storms out and apparently moves out of his place on Friday.Saturday night she is at this bar hanging out with some of her friends, including guys. The cheating dude comes in looking for her, finds her and tells her she is leaving with him, she refuses so he clamps down on her arms and physically tries to remove her from the bar to go with him.The people she was with face off to the guy and the bar owner comes over and asks the chick if she wants to go with him. She clearly states no so he asks the dude to let go of her and leave the bar, he clamps down harder and tries to take her anyways. Bar owner who is a blackbelt btw, forcefully removes the guys hands from the girl and the dude squares off so the bar owner puts dude in headlock. Legs get to kicking, tables get knocked over, beer pitchers get thrown and broke, etc etc.The rent a copy guy 'felt for the bar owners safety' and tases the dude and gets him to the ground. When they tried to handcuff him he tried to get up again so they tased him again. After about 3 or 4 minutes he is still struggling so they "STUN" him which apparently is different then tasing, but all seems about the same to me. They finally get the guy on his feet and as they are escorting him out he struggles and tries to square off again against the bar owner and so he gets another stun shot in the back.Total of 2 tases and 2 stuns. Still completely excessive imo considering they had the bar owner and 2 rent a cops there on the guy. Also an interesting note, apparently the stun guns have cameras on them so they were able to film the entire incident and after police reviewed they found no fault on the bar and due to the excessive crowd it was determined they acted appropriately in order to minimize the risk to the other patrons.Pfffft, still excessive

[mtdesmoines 3]

So went back to this bar last night to play some poker and talked with the bar owner whom I've known for years.He asked me what I thought about what went down and I told him I didnt see how it started, but the whole tasing multiple times thing seemed excessive.He goes on to tell me the whole story ....Apparently last week some chick comes in and catches her man that she is living with at the bar with some other girl so she storms out and apparently moves out of his place on Friday.Saturday night she is at this bar hanging out with some of her friends, including guys. The cheating dude comes in looking for her, finds her and tells her she is leaving with him, she refuses so he clamps down on her arms and physically tries to remove her from the bar to go with him.The people she was with face off to the guy and the bar owner comes over and asks the chick if she wants to go with him. She clearly states no so he asks the dude to let go of her and leave the bar, he clamps down harder and tries to take her anyways. Bar owner who is a blackbelt btw, forcefully removes the guys hands from the girl and the dude squares off so the bar owner puts dude in headlock. Legs get to kicking, tables get knocked over, beer pitchers get thrown and broke, etc etc.The rent a copy guy 'felt for the bar owners safety' and tases the dude and gets him to the ground. When they tried to handcuff him he tried to get up again so they tased him again. After about 3 or 4 minutes he is still struggling so they "STUN" him which apparently is different then tasing, but all seems about the same to me. They finally get the guy on his feet and as they are escorting him out he struggles and tries to square off again against the bar owner and so he gets another stun shot in the back.Total of 2 tases and 2 stuns. Still completely excessive imo considering they had the bar owner and 2 rent a cops there on the guy. Also an interesting note, apparently the stun guns have cameras on them so they were able to film the entire incident and after police reviewed they found no fault on the bar and due to the excessive crowd it was determined they acted appropriately in order to minimize the risk to the other patrons.Pfffft, still excessive

Don't start a bar fight in 2009.I mean, it's not like this anymore:

[SlapStick 0]

Don't start a bar fight in 2009.I mean, it's not like this anymore:

Two guys came up to me and my drunken friends and said we were being too loud in a bar. They made a hasty retreat out the door soon after. The Bartender shouted over "They're probably off to the library now". Good times.Taser: My friend got tasered 9 times in Australia after starting a fight with a bouncer and then the police. He definitely needed to be subdued but he was helpless after the 2nd one, and start to vomit and everything. It was the first week that the provincial police were allowed to carry tasers, the cop was called Duncan Fraser. The newspaper headline the next day was "Duncan The Taser Fraser". Epic.