nas061000 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Was playing at Winstar Casino Today 1/2 Cash game and played this:I've been at the table for ~2 hours now and I have $125. Everyone at the table is really loose(Basically waiting for a hand) Like they are playing Paint-rag and the board just keeps pairing up. Villian had sat down only like 30 minutes prior. I'm playing semi-tight(This is a table of limpers, so where I can limp on weak hands I do)I'm in middle position and I look down at Pocket A's. Villian(UTG+2) raised to $8, A fold, and I reraise to $16, Folds back to the Villian bets $40 pretty quickly, I take a short while and push all in(~107), which is 3/4's of what he has... he debates and folds, and shows pocket K's. My question, Could I have extracted more money out of this situation? Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 You must have been to much of a nit to get a fold from KK's, that or you gave off a tell.Usually that should work at that loose of a table. You could have flat called the three bet then shove the flop as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Sens-Eh 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 yes.3bet his opening bet bigger...instead of $16 say $26. Then if he did 4 bet you again, he likely would have done it bigger..Like $65 based on his actual 4bet size. Once he bets that amount, you can flat call if you like and then push any flop. Or you can make the reraise all-in preflop if you prefer...meh, personally I would flat a 4 bet of $65 and then go all-in on any flop.....If he wants to fold to your final bet of $60 into a pot of $130 well, so be it.....Oh, and someone in the thread will probably mention something about why you weren't reloaded full (presumably to $200).... Link to post Share on other sites
nas061000 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 yes.3bet his opening bet bigger...instead of $16 say $26. Then if he did 4 bet you again, he likely would have done it bigger..Like $65 based on his actual 4bet size. Once he bets that amount, you can flat call if you like and then push any flop. Or you can make the reraise all-in preflop if you prefer...meh, personally I would flat a 4 bet of $65 and then go all-in on any flop.....If he wants to fold to your final bet of $60 into a pot of $130 well, so be it.....Oh, and someone in the thread will probably mention something about why you weren't reloaded full (presumably to $200)....I didn't reload because I'm a poor college student. :Dbefore his 3rd bet I though he had something like AK or Two Face cards, Or some pocket pair. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Was playing at Winstar Casino Today 1/2 Cash game and played this:I've been at the table for ~2 hours now and I have $125. Everyone at the table is really loose(Basically waiting for a hand) Like they are playing Paint-rag and the board just keeps pairing up. Villian had sat down only like 30 minutes prior. I'm playing semi-tight(This is a table of limpers, so where I can limp on weak hands I do)I'm in middle position and I look down at Pocket A's. Villian(UTG+2) raised to $8, A fold, and I reraise to $16, Folds back to the Villian bets $40 pretty quickly, I take a short while and push all in(~107), which is 3/4's of what he has... he debates and folds, and shows pocket K's. My question, Could I have extracted more money out of this situation?It's his mistake; folding KK under those conditions.You didn't have any moves left. Seeing how this table had been loose, your shove was basically a pot bet that someone should SNAPcall with KK. Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 yes.3bet his opening bet bigger...instead of $16 say $26. Then if he did 4 bet you again, he likely would have done it bigger..Like $65 based on his actual 4bet size. Once he bets that amount, you can flat call if you like and then push any flop. Or you can make the reraise all-in preflop if you prefer...meh, personally I would flat a 4 bet of $65 and then go all-in on any flop.....If he wants to fold to your final bet of $60 into a pot of $130 well, so be it.....Oh, and someone in the thread will probably mention something about why you weren't reloaded full (presumably to $200)....perfectly saidthink of it as starting a fight, he pushes you, you need to hit him back hard, not back up so he can see you have 3 friends waiting to jump in and help you Link to post Share on other sites
CaseAce 0 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 mtdesmoines and Sens-Eh are both right. A bigger re-raise pre almost guarantees you get it all in either before the flop or after on a queen(or less) high board. However, theres absolutely no reason this guy should be folding kings in this spot, despite being right. I hope you looked at him like he was nuts and told him he was good as you mucked. Link to post Share on other sites
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