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Full Tilt Poker Game #11229211304: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (84425389), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:09:06 ET - 2009/03/19Seat 1: droppedgsr (2,785)Seat 2: lmw61787 (1,265)Seat 3: mrbigl28 (2,035)Seat 5: camelcrush (1,435)Seat 6: duece17708 (1,480)droppedgsr posts the small blind of 20lmw61787 posts the big blind of 40The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to lmw61787 [As Ac]mrbigl28 foldscamelcrush foldsduece17708 calls 40droppedgsr calls 20lmw61787 raises to 125duece17708 calls 85droppedgsr calls 85*** FLOP *** [8c Jc 7s]droppedgsr bets 120lmw61787 raises to 550duece17708 raises to 1,355, and is all indroppedgsr foldslmw61787 calls 590, and is all induece17708 shows [9s Th]lmw61787 shows [As Ac]Uncalled bet of 215 returned to duece17708*** TURN *** [8c Jc 7s] [7d]*** RIVER *** [8c Jc 7s 7d] [2d]duece17708 shows a straight, Jack highlmw61787 shows two pair, Aces and Sevensduece17708 wins the pot (2,775) with a straight, Jack highlmw61787 stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2,775 | Rake 0Board: [8c Jc 7s 7d 2d]Seat 1: droppedgsr (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 2: lmw61787 (big blind) showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and SevensSeat 3: mrbigl28 didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: camelcrush didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: duece17708 (button) showed [9s Th] and won (2,775) with a straight, Jack highCan I get away from it/should I have played it differently?

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tbh you played it fine although i probably raise more pre-flop..possibly to about 200,maybe more sometimes...but alot of players will go all in with j9 jq hands on that board so i dont blame you for calling the all in..just one of those hands imo :club:

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cooler...it happens...don't really think you did anything "wrong"...any read on villain to help the decision? if i have no read on villain in a situation like this i usually click "time" and search villain on OPR to maybe have a better idea of his hand range...it's either a way ahead or way behind decision....if his stats are good he probably has you on big PP with your raise in BB and wouldn't be shoving with anything less than two pair....if his stats are bad, pray he has AJ and call

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Nah, you shouldn't have raised more preflop, with those stacks and on BB, 3 times the big is an ok play.There's always a chance you're beat on a seemingly harmless flop, but you could've called that straight away, even if the player's image tight.

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The way it played out, you can't get away from that hand. Only thing I might have done was raise more preflop to get the (9/10 I assume?) out. Of course in a small ball tourney like this, he may have played to a big raise anyway. Once you put out the 550 or so raise you have commited most of your stack. Unlucky..but unless you can be sure he flopped the joint..you gotta call. Could be AJ/KJ..or a flush draw there. Just unlucky.

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You played it good, you cant do anything else. If you raise it to 200 preflop your gonna scare away the button limper and the small blind.So your preflop raise was good. Had you raised it to 200 J 10 might've been folded, so it's what you wanted, just really unlucky.

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looks good. Anything I can come up with is results based anyway.

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Seriously, Zach needs to change the name of this forum from "General Strategy" to "General Strategy - don't post hand histories here!!!"

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They've said already - raise more PFYou're going broke w/ AA right? Make the button pay more to draw out this early in the tournament. If it were later in the tournament to the point that people were beginning to fight for blinds, I could see making a smaller PF raise.Key is your OOP and pricing both players in with that raise. It accomplishes nothing and I hate it.

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Yeah!!!! can't do much about it.....obviously the reason he called your raise is because he was on the button and he's got position on you...and also if he out flops you he's gonna win a lot of money....he basically gambled and he outflopped you. Once he outflops you, he can trap you by pushing all in..which was a good move by him because you raised like 12 times the big blind and obviously its a sign that you have a monster hand. Also he knows you're not getting away from your hand. Once you bet and he re pops i think in your mind he was trying to make a move on you. And once you believe that you re pop him again and pushed all in. To be honest it depends on how your opponents table image are..and also the history of hands being played n obviously betting patterns MAYBE you can fold that hand..but yeah...folding aces is a hard thing to do!!!

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raise more preflop. you priced them both in. folding to your small bet in position would be a bad play by villain imo. as for the flop, the only case you can make for calling is the pot odds. but bet, raise, reraise on that flop you are almost always behind with one pair. and in the cases you are ahead, he probably has pair + flush/straight draws making you a small (if at all) favorite.i think i fold and keep my 590 stack and look for a double up spot.

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