DonkSlayer 1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 No reads, only about 1 rotation on the table. Due to hands I've gotten preflop and the action in front of me since i've sat, I have a loose image already.Turn? River?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopMP1 ($121.70)MP2 ($109.40)MP3 ($114.55)Hero (CO) ($90.50)Button ($59.70)SB ($64.60)BB ($119.10)UTG ($55)UTG+1 ($84)Preflop: Hero is CO with , 5 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, 1 foldFlop: ($8) , , (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5Turn: ($18) (2 players)SB bets $7, Hero calls $7River: ($32) (2 players)SB bets $10, Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I think I just call... are we gonna get a ten to call a raise? I think the only hands that call here are any queens, a 4, or AA and KK? But I'm a cash game donk. Link to post Share on other sites
giffenbone 0 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I think I just call... are we gonna get a ten to call a raise? I think the only hands that call here are any queens, a 4, or AA and KK? But I'm a cash game donk.or TT for tens full, but that has hero beat also. A flush seems unlikely in this spot for villain to bet on, because any pair for a boat beats the flush.I call also. If hero raises, the only hands that call either split with or beat the KQ. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 What would be the point of raising unless he's a complete POW? Hand is fine with a flat on the end. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 I think I just call... are we gonna get a ten to call a raise? I think the only hands that call here are any queens, a 4, or AA and KK? But I'm a cash game donk.How many think AA or KK is a plausible holding for villain? Seems both unlikely because my image is loose and they would want more value preflop, but also seems more likely since I seem to be playing lots of hands to the turn and there's more value postflop than chasing me away preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Unless you have a history w/the villain, I don't see any value in a river raise - turn raise COULD work if you knew the villain better. Against an unknown/random this is a good line IMO (bet more OTF though) Link to post Share on other sites
gaddyjr 0 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Call me crazy but I think this is a raise. On the river he is betting $10 into $32. That's a weak lead if I've ever seen one. If you truely have a loose image he is raise AA, KK, QQ, and TT. We can discount KK and QQ due to our holding. Is there really no value in a raise? If he has the case 4 does he not check raise the turn rather than bet out? What am I missing? Link to post Share on other sites
IAGTTAYM 0 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 EDIT: Never mind. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 No reads, only about 1 rotation on the table. Due to hands I've gotten preflop and the action in front of me since i've sat, I have a loose image already.Turn? River?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopMP1 ($121.70)MP2 ($109.40)MP3 ($114.55)Hero (CO) ($90.50)Button ($59.70)SB ($64.60)BB ($119.10)UTG ($55)UTG+1 ($84)Preflop: Hero is CO with , 5 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, 1 foldFlop: ($8) , , (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5Turn: ($18) (2 players)SB bets $7, Hero calls $7River: ($32) (2 players)SB bets $10, Hero? Villain has nut flush. You can raise, but he's prob not calling. Link to post Share on other sites
Lando7886 0 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Call me crazy but I think this is a raise. On the river he is betting $10 into $32. That's a weak lead if I've ever seen one. If you truely have a loose image he is raise AA, KK, QQ, and TT. We can discount KK and QQ due to our holding. Is there really no value in a raise? If he has the case 4 does he not check raise the turn rather than bet out? What am I missing?i just call if you reraise and he pushes that put you in a tough situation that could have been avoided with a call. the only raise that he would consider with a ten is min raising to 20 and if he calls a bigger raise than that we are beat. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 or TT for tens full, but that has hero beat also.Tens full of fours beats fours full of queens. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Villain has nut flush. You can raise, but he's prob not calling.The spot was so tough because it seemed impossible to determine how to get value from a hand that we beat, and trying to determine whether the risk was worth the loss if we were behind. I ended up nearly minraising and making the river $25 and didn't even get a call from that. I liked what raising the river did for my image though. Link to post Share on other sites
HiN8s 0 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I think with a raise you're only getting called by the same hand or better. Just flat and avoid the headache. Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 All you can do is flat... why would we pay off better hands here? Link to post Share on other sites
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