HighwayStar 8 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Also, Orura ( SP?) is really, really hot. She was smokin'. Looked great in the uniform.I thought the movie itself was kinda...crap.. but great fun. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 the character of Kirk is more like Han Solo than it is Shatner's kirk, which is not a bad thing by the way. It's a very, very good thing.this. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Got to see it this afternoon.I thought most of the characters were done really well. The only one I didn't like much was Checkov since they spent too much time highlighting his speech issues.Simon Peg didn't get enough screen time as Scotty. Bones wasn't bad, but wasn't great. Kirk and Spock were both really good. The thing that I got the least was the relationship between Spock and Ohura which seemed a bit out of place. I didn't mind the time traveling plot, it helps explain that this is an alternate reality with the same people. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 39 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Eric Bana was bad. big suprise there. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Eric Bana was bad. big suprise there.I thought he was ok until he started talking. Then he was baaaad. I like the look of the Romulans. Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffdog87 2 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 As a fan of Star Trek this was a really great, faster-paced, new aged Star Trek movie that sets the stage for a lot of different ways to make Star Trek even bigger and better. Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I was never a huge Star Trek fan, I watched the Next Generation tv show and a few of the movies. I went to see this new Star Trek movie with my dad, who is in his mid 50s and was a pretty big original Star Trek fan. I really enjoyed the movie, despite not knowing all the little intricacies that were placed in the movie that my dad knew. Like Sulu and the fencing/sword references. There were many of these spliced throughout the movie that were meant for the hardcore fans. I thought the movie was a really well done action movie with great potential for sequels. Also, for those that may not have understood some of the back story on Nero/Spock, such as how Nero obtained the red matter, what the red matter was, and how his ship turned from a simple mining ship to an ultimate destroyer, there is a 4 part comic series that came out recently that is a "prequel" to the movie starring Spock, Piccard, LaForge, Warf, and Data in the future. Having read the comic miniseries I wasn't confused at all about any elements of the plot but I could see how some people might be a little confused without the full backstory. Also, having the original Spock in the movie was necessary and a great decision imo. As soon as he appeared on the screen the entire theater let out a thunderous applause. No one captures the essence of the original series like Spock, and to the old time Trekkies he is like their god.Anyway, my dad absolutely loved it. He said it was his favorite Star Trek movie and one of his all time favorite movies, right up there with Apollo 13. The producers did an amazing job capturing the spirit of Star Trek and the characters. I'm guessing that almost all Star Trek fans that grew up watching the series will love the movie and probably see it more than once. Even though the movie appeals to a wide audience, the hard core fans who are mostly older are really in for a treat. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 As someone who had only seen like half of one of the other movies and none of the TV shows I liked the movie quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I was never a huge Star Trek fan, I watched the Next Generation tv show and a few of the movies. I went to see this new Star Trek movie with my dad, who is in his mid 50s and was a pretty big original Star Trek fan. I really enjoyed the movie, despite not knowing all the little intricacies that were placed in the movie that my dad knew. Like Sulu and the fencing/sword references. There were many of these spliced throughout the movie that were meant for the hardcore fans. I thought the movie was a really well done action movie with great potential for sequels. Also, for those that may not have understood some of the back story on Nero/Spock, such as how Nero obtained the red matter, what the red matter was, and how his ship turned from a simple mining ship to an ultimate destroyer, there is a 4 part comic series that came out recently that is a "prequel" to the movie starring Spock, Piccard, LaForge, Warf, and Data in the future. Having read the comic miniseries I wasn't confused at all about any elements of the plot but I could see how some people might be a little confused without the full backstory. Also, having the original Spock in the movie was necessary and a great decision imo. As soon as he appeared on the screen the entire theater let out a thunderous applause. No one captures the essence of the original series like Spock, and to the old time Trekkies he is like their god.Anyway, my dad absolutely loved it. He said it was his favorite Star Trek movie and one of his all time favorite movies, right up there with Apollo 13. The producers did an amazing job capturing the spirit of Star Trek and the characters. I'm guessing that almost all Star Trek fans that grew up watching the series will love the movie and probably see it more than once. Even though the movie appeals to a wide audience, the hard core fans who are mostly older are really in for a treat.1) having to read a comic book back story to understand what's going on in a movie is not good cinematic story telling2) Having spock in this movie is not necessary at all. It was pandering to fans. Nemoy was profoundly terrible in this movie. The hard core star trek geeks were probably ecstatic to see him, but having a deus ex machina is bad story telling any time, and having it be an 80 year old who can barely deliver his lines is even worse. You don't need Nemoy to capture the essense of the old series. You do that with story telling.3) what would have captured the essence of the original series better than a gimmick spock would be telling a socially relevant, modern story rooted in hard science, not a shallow pandering "continuity " focused storyline based in pseudo science. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 1) having to read a comic book back story to understand what's going on in a movie is not good cinematic story telling2) Having spock in this movie is not necessary at all. It was pandering to fans. Nemoy was profoundly terrible in this movie. The hard core star trek geeks were probably ecstatic to see him, but having a deus ex machina is bad story telling any time, and having it be an 80 year old who can barely deliver his lines is even worse. You don't need Nemoy to capture the essense of the old series. You do that with story telling.3) what would have captured the essence of the original series better than a gimmick spock would be telling a socially relevant, modern story rooted in hard science, not a shallow pandering "continuity " focused storyline based in pseudo science.This sounds plagiarized from Ebert's review. He gave it a thumbs down. Link to post Share on other sites
IQCrash 1 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 1) having to read a comic book back story to understand what's going on in a movie is not good cinematic story telling2) Having spock in this movie is not necessary at all. It was pandering to fans. Nemoy was profoundly terrible in this movie. The hard core star trek geeks were probably ecstatic to see him, but having a deus ex machina is bad story telling any time, and having it be an 80 year old who can barely deliver his lines is even worse. You don't need Nemoy to capture the essense of the old series. You do that with story telling.3) what would have captured the essence of the original series better than a gimmick spock would be telling a socially relevant, modern story rooted in hard science, not a shallow pandering "continuity " focused storyline based in pseudo science.Stop being a fag, the movie was awesome.Never having been a fan of the original series, having never seen any of the older movies, and only enjoying the occasional TNG episode while growing up - this movie was a fantastic reboot of the franchise. It stood really well on its own and made just enough reference to things that casual and hard core fans alike would appreciate ("Dammit man, I'm just a doctor!") without being too dependent on its predecessors.I look forward to the next installment. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 CountdownLink containing some information about the prequel comic stories that give background to Nero and tie in ST:TNG timelines. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 My bro-in-law is a comic book geek and very, very picky about this kind of stuff and he gave Star Trek a 9.5 out of 10, citing 4 very minor "flaws". Also, the Onion gives it a B+. Based on those two review alone, I would say this is likely the next movie I will see.The naysayers can go lick a dick. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I've seen a few nitpicks about the film, the three that are somewhat legit are...1. Red Matter: if it only takes a drop to create a singularity then wtf was Spock rolling around with the huge bubble for. And why didn't that huge amount cause a bigger event than a single drop did previously? 2. The Mining beam: how come it took Spock to go shoot it down on his little ship instead of someone on Vulcan or Earth doing this previously? Granted we get the defense grids for each planet were shut down, but how come no one tried to fly up and shoot it down. A two minute scene of the ship defending the mining beam takes care of this. 3. Chance meeting: Kirk getting kicked off the enterprise to find alternate time line old Spock and Scotty on Hoth was a little cheesy The ones that are being complained about but not really having any merit...1. Nero's Ship: It's a mining ship... so how does it destroy all these other ships that are built for combat? Answer: The explanation is in the prequel comics, it's a vessel from 130 years in the future, and has been retrofitted with Romulan war tech that was based off the Borg. 2. Time Travel: It's always been a part of the ST universe, and people are whining over the destruction of Vulcan. It's clearly explained in the movie that this is an alternate universe where what you know from the original series/TNG/DS9 etc doesn't exactly apply. So complaining that "how can this be when there was a episode where Spock hung out with his mom and blah blah blah" means nothing. It's an alternate reality, which allows them to reboot the series and do whatever they want with it. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I enjoyed the introductory parts with Spock immensely. Particularly when he gives the Vulcans the finger without showing any emotion. That was very satisfying.I hated the scene when Kirk goads him. Why the **** is Kirk captain now? The music stopped and he's in the seat? Why do any of these characters think this is a good idea? Did we really need to see Spock lose control emotionally again? Isn't building the Enterprise on Earth kind of like building a boat in the basement? How's that going to work? It was fun though, and I recommend it. Link to post Share on other sites
Piddle Duck 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I hate Star Trek. Despise it.Wife was a DS9 and THG fan and made me go see it.Loved it. It was entertaining. Lots of space porn, no big lulls to make you lose interest.I don't care to nitpick a sci-fi action flick. If it's not based on a true story then anything pretty much goes in my opinion. Fantasy is just that fantasy and there are no "rules."Fromt the above post, and I don't see how this can be a spoiler since it is seen on the trailers....Isn't building the Enterprise on Earth kind of like building a boat in the basement? How's that going to work?I don't get it? Did you think the Enterprise was bigger than earth? Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I don't get it? Did you think the Enterprise was bigger than earth?No, he means that every time we have seen them building a spaceship throughout the history of ST, it's been getting constructed in space. Link to post Share on other sites
Piddle Duck 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 No, he means that every time we have seen them building a spaceship throughout the history of ST, it's been getting constructed in space.Oh I took his analogy a different direction I guess. nevermind Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I don't get it? Did you think the Enterprise was bigger than earth?I don't think the star ships can actually take off from the ground and fly through the atmosphere by tradition. It's not something I can visualize, at any rate. Hey, people can jump down from space in a suit and not burn up so I guess the necessary thermal shielding is pretty trivial. I dunno. It just looked wrong to me. Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 From everything I've read and heard, almost every original trekkie(I doubt any post on this forum) that were hippies growing up in the 60s absolutely love this film. I am guessing they will keep seeing this movie and after all the money it made the first week, it will not fall off drastically the following week like Wolverine did. I'm guessing Star Trek pulls in at least another $30 million next week. Also, I think the movie definitely accomplished one of it's main goals - appeasing the original fans while bringing in new fans to the franchise. They made a movie that everyone can find exciting, entertaining, and just downright awesome. There are some people who don't like the movie but they are heavily outweighed by the people who loved it. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Isn't building the Enterprise on Earth kind of like building a boat in the basement? How's that going to work?Maybe they just built pieces of it? Or "towed" it into space? Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Well, this movie is before everything else. In first contact they went back to when the first warp drive was being put in a space ship and that was all done on earth. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 This sounds plagiarized from Ebert's review. He gave it a thumbs down.I haven't read the review, but it doesn't surprise me. Ebert is awesome and so am I. For the record, My issue isn't a "nit pick". It's a fundemental issue with the basis and structure of the plot, that's not a minor thing. I did enjoy the movie, over all, and I thought that new Kirk and Spock were excellent. but to say this movie is 9.5 out of 10 is patently absurd. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 my only serious complaint was the camera work / edititing. i'm home now and still feel like i'm going to puke. Link to post Share on other sites
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