40AcresFight 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Villian had been running at 20/9 over 75 hands, hasnt really got out of line...i usually 3bet preflop here, but for some reason my brain decided to call this time instead...I think a larger 3bet on flop is in order but i didnt want to commit myself with JJ as I still have a decent sized stackNo-Limit Hold'em, $120.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($14440)SB ($3070)Hero (BB) ($5760)UTG ($3680)MP ($10840)CO ($4385)Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J1 fold, MP raises $360, 3 folds, Hero calls $240Flop: ($780) 4, 6, 8(2 players)Hero bets $480, MP raises $960, Hero raises $1720, MP raises $9520 (All-In), Hero??? Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Villian had been running at 20/9 over 75 hands, hasnt really got out of line...i usually 3bet preflop here, but for some reason my brain decided to call this time instead...I think a larger 3bet on flop is in order but i didnt want to commit myself with JJ as I still have a decent sized stackNo-Limit Hold'em, $120.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($14440)SB ($3070)Hero (BB) ($5760)UTG ($3680)MP ($10840)CO ($4385)Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J1 fold, MP raises $360, 3 folds, Hero calls $240Flop: ($780) 4, 6, 8(2 players)Hero bets $480, MP raises $960, Hero raises $1720, MP raises $9520 (All-In), Hero???Puke. Sigh. Fold. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Yeah, what really are we beating here? Is 99/TT doing this? I think not. Puke fold Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I really hate the size of your 3bet and you seemingly did it without a plan, but you have to fold now. Link to post Share on other sites
40AcresFight 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 I really hate the size of your 3bet and you seemingly did it without a plan, but you have to fold now.Agreed...the minraise was really strange to me and I had no idea how to respond to itHow would yall respond to a minraise here?What about checking the flop with the intent to checkraise? I know there are 4 million scare cards that could come on the turn if he checks behind, but if villian bets here, which I think he does a high percentage of the time given his range, a check raise to about the same amount would cost me the same but also would give me more information I believe... Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 3-bet PF, but you seem to acknowledge that you should have done this.Given the PF call, with all the draws out there, I prefer 3-betting all in once the villain min-raises your donk bet. That bet size gives you fold equity. I am also a fan of the check-raise approach if you are not 3-betting PF.Nevertheless, a 3-bet PF is the best adjustment to your play. Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 The way it's played, I don't really like the lead out bet. I would have rather c/r here. But probably the way I more than likely would have played was c/c flop and then see the turn and make a decision there. Unless, I have a read on the villain, I probably don't 3bet PF either. Link to post Share on other sites
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