looshle 6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 al, you have queens. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Stacks are getting short for blinds/antes, and villain's around 15BB himself. Unless the shover was pretty tight (and we have no read here so oh well), I'm calling. We'll typically see a wide range here, like QT and 55 wide, and this could even be a stone cold steal attempt. Or it could be a little of both, with a weak ace or T9 that still has some value if called. If he has AA/KK/AK, he'll have to show it to me.Nope.I think his range should be 99+ AQ+ Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Nope.I think his range should be 99+ AQ+You're certain villain is that tight here? That's awfully tight for a short stack. Link to post Share on other sites
SlackerInc 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The vomiting comes into play because you've just grinded for 13 hours to get to this point, finally have a stack that is about 10/24 and come up on this situation. If you're right, you are 2/24, if you're wrong you've got 20k in chips at 2k-4k/500 and if you fold you're about 15/24.But that's tournament poker. I actually have more sympathy on this than you might think; I have been getting a little fed up with these kinds of situations myself and have been trying to learn cash game play. (I'm just so sick of playing well throughout a tourney, as you say, and then having to depend on winning preflop shove coin flips to make the real money.) It's sort of an ironic paradox, though: when I play cash games, I miss the sense of having the chance to win, to be the last person standing with all the chips. I guess that's why I enjoyed playing the deep stack HU tourneys with no blind increases; but that's not very practical when a match can go on for hours (or, theoretically, forever).One thing I have thought of: what if they reduced the blinds at the final table? Or periodically raised them for a while to put pressure on the short stacks, then lowered them again to allow some play? Link to post Share on other sites
Al Smooth 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 al, you have queens.Loosh, I instacalled. Link to post Share on other sites
SlackerInc 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Loosh, I instacalled.So why post a question about what you considered an easy call? I don't mean that in a harsh way; I'm just puzzled. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 So why post a question about what you considered an easy call? I don't mean that in a harsh way; I'm just puzzled.For discussion. To see if there is some different perspective. It's how you learn and get better. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 For discussion. To see if there is some different perspective. It's how you learn and get better.Thats what I have been doing wrong all these years. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 You're certain villain is that tight here? That's awfully tight for a short stack.That range is not tight for the situation. There's a limp utg (which almost gets all live players thinking omg aces) and a 4x from utg+1. It should be failry obvious to him that he's getting called amost every single time. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Loosh, I instacalled.I'm sorry you were beat but you know you can't fold. I mean everyone in this thread pretty much agreed this is a pretty clear call and these guys LOVE folding.QUEEEEEEEENQQQQ Link to post Share on other sites
staggo 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Stacks are getting short for blinds/antes, and villain's around 15BB himself. Unless the shover was pretty tight (and we have no read here so oh well), I'm calling. We'll typically see a wide range here, like QT and 55 wide, and this could even be a stone cold steal attempt. Or it could be a little of both, with a weak ace or T9 that still has some value if called. If he has AA/KK/AK, he'll have to show it to me.Did anyone else lol at this post? How could his range be anywhere near this wide? Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Did I miss the result??? Or is Loosh assuming Al got beat because he posted this..? Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Did I miss the result??? Or is Loosh assuming Al got beat because he posted this..?It's probably a good assumption since he posted this. I mean, he probably wouldn't have posted it if he had won the hand and villain showed up with like JJ, AQ or AK Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Did anyone else lol at this post? How could his range be anywhere near this wide?stop attacking the guy. what did he ever do to you? Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Sally, where you at? Link to post Share on other sites
Al Smooth 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Did I miss the result??? Or is Loosh assuming Al got beat because he posted this..?Loosh is assuming I got beat because I'm me.I haven't posted (on here) what the result was. Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Loosh is assuming I got beat because I'm me.I haven't posted (on here) what the result was.As am I. :icon_biggrin:Post it already dangit, we all want to know what hand sucked out on you!!Edit:Hmmm, me thinks you sucked out on AA or KK and binked a Q. nh, wp, gl Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 al, you have queens. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Loosh is assuming I got beat because I'm me.I haven't posted (on here) what the result was.I read your blog......Good luck tomorrow (today...?) Link to post Share on other sites
Al Smooth 0 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I called and turned up QQ, and he tabled KK. I lost the pot and the chance to run up to second in chips with 25 remaining. Oh wells. BTW, an Ace flopped and if the UTG AK had re-shoved, I'd have folded and saved myself some chips. Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I called and turned up QQ, and he tabled KK. I lost the pot and the chance to run up to second in chips with 25 remaining. Oh wells. BTW, an Ace flopped and if the UTG AK had re-shoved, I'd have folded and saved myself some chips.Yeah, you shoulda folded. Link to post Share on other sites
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