a beat so bad you have to laugh

[Bijjy 0]

I play online a lot. Thought I'd give you guys a chance to laugh at this hand, and me. Enjoy!Dealer: Hand #112522860Dealer: AMATEUR1984 posts the small blind of $1Dealer: gsxr-10002002 posts the big blind of $2Dealer: You have been dealt [8h 8c]Dealer: Bijjy calls $2Dealer: RedSpade raises to $12Dealer: poker_dude25 foldsDealer: speedf40 foldsDealer: DRDEVIOUST foldsDealer: AMATEUR1984 foldsDealer: gsxr-10002002 calls $10Dealer: RedSpade is feeling happyDealer: Bijjy calls $10Dealer: The flop is [9c 8s Ts]Dealer: gsxr-10002002 checksDealer: Bijjy checksDealer: RedSpade has 15 seconds left to actDealer: RedSpade bets $59Dealer: gsxr-10002002 foldsDealer: Bijjy calls $59Dealer: The turn is [6s]Dealer: Bijjy bets $2Dealer: RedSpade calls $0.45, and is all inDealer: Bijjy shows [8h 8c]Dealer: RedSpade shows [2h 7c]Dealer: Uncalled bet of $1.55 returned to BijjyDealer: The river is [Qs]Dealer: Bijjy shows three of a kind, EightsDealer: RedSpade shows a straight, Ten highDealer: RedSpade wins the pot ($152.90) with a straight, Ten high

[monoatomic 0]

the fact that there were 3 straight cards and 2 to the flush didn't send any idea about not calling a 60 dollar bet?Granted he was a moron but..

[HoosierAlum 0]

Ok, this isnt a bad beat. He flopped an open-ended straight draw, and then turned it. You called $59 cold with bottom set on a coordinated flop. The only thing I am laughing about is how poorly you played this hand.

[karr2242 0]

He may have played the hand incorrectly post-flop, but clowns who raise $12 preflop with 2-7 like RedSpade did DO NOT deserve S**t like that. Just my two cents.....PeaceSK

[Bijjy 0]

He raised preflop, couldnt put him on a better hand, unless he had a better set. If he had a draw I would be a fool to fold to it. Thanks for the input though.

[Guest]

IMO, this is and isn't a bad beat, it just depends on how you look at it. Sure his raise of 10$ with 72o smells like a fish, but I'm guessing all this guy wanted to do was steal the blinds and your bet. A little foolish with this hand, but that's besides the point.Once the flop came down, he got extremly lucky with the flop to give himself an open ended straight draw. Now, even if u didn't put him on an open ended straight draw. For 59$ alarms should be going off in your head that this guy may actually have a hand. Did u not think that maybe, just maybe he might even have made a set of tens, making your set of 8s rather far behind? At this point, you might think you have the best hand, but may not have the best at the end. You were a 4 to 1 favorite on the flop, but you called 59$ to win 81 (his 59 + 22 already in the pot). The pot odds were not near enough for you to call this bet even if you had the best hand. Not only is a straight possible out there, but there is a potential flush draw.Oh and I don't know who said the guy who won didn't deserve to win this pot, is right. But the cards don't care who deserves and who doesn't deserve to win. We've all taken bad beats b4 and have given them, but in this case I think it was Bijjy who got carried away with his hand.

[fryer98 30]

Ok, this isnt a bad beat. He flopped an open-ended straight draw, and then turned it. You called $59 cold with bottom set on a coordinated flop. The only thing I am laughing about is how poorly you played this hand.

Once again, I have to agree with the IU grad....argh.

[brisk 0]

Ok, this isnt a bad beat. He flopped an open-ended straight draw, and then turned it. You called $59 cold with bottom set on a coordinated flop. The only thing I am laughing about is how poorly you played this hand.

Yeh ... huge histake not reraising him on the flop ... raising him that extra .45 into a pot of 142 would've surely pushed him off his draw. (big time SW)that hand sucks ... if you laughed instead of breaking something, you are a better man than i .. and btw, i don't think you misplayed it at all. if he had more $$, you should have raised on the flop, as he is more likely to have AA and pay you off then and there ... but you played it fine.

[Guest]

You were a 4 to 1 favorite on the flop, but you called 59$ to win 81 (his 59 + 22 already in the pot). The pot odds were not near enough for you to call this bet even if you had the best hand. Not only is a straight possible out there, but there is a potential flush draw.

Please tell me you're joking here. He was a favorite but not getting good enough odds to call, how exactly does that work? Last time I checked, being a favorite means you are >50% to win so you need at least 1-1 on your money for it to be a good idea.ZaraP.S. The pot was 37 not 22

[Frills 0]

Not a bad beat at all IMHOYou played it horribly.

[Guest]

Ok, this is just an outrageous thread. What in the holy hell are you people thinking? Whether you agree with the check/call or not, what would betting out have done in this situation? If the guy is willing to bet 59 of his 61 dollars into this pot as a bluff with the idiot end of an OESD, chances are that he's not gonna be shy about shoving all in over any bet regardless. Yeah, this guy could have QJ...by the turn we'll have 10 outs. That, along with 99 or TT, are the only reasonable hands he could have that we're beat with....and we're not TOO scared of QJ since we've got a nice draw. So, if it's set-to-set, tough luck. Fact remains that 90% of the hands we can put this guy on are WAY behind. Even top 2 pair is looking at a four outer. You people aren't actually insinuating that he should FOLD that hand, are you? The fool was UTG+1 right? Do you really think he's raising 6xBB with any hand that has a 7 or J in it other than 77 or JJ? In this case, it turns out he was, but the effect was exactly the same and there's no way our OP could have read this hand any other way. High overpair, overpair with an OESD, or a continuation bluff. Well, we've established that betting out wouldn't have accomplish much, and folding is out of the question. Therefore, what's wrong with the check? Sure, a half pot bet might have gotten some more dead chips in the middle, but you people make it sound like he deserved to lose this hand by not betting the flop. Please...that's just insane. Somebody got their chips in the middle as a 2-1 dog and won...his chips were going into the middle anyway and our OP was doomed regardless. Give him a break, will ya? As for the Pot-Odds post...there was 37 in the pot...so it's 59 for 96 here. Even if the OP KNEW our opponent had a made straight, it's close but admittedly wrong. When you throw in the possibility of ANY other hands he's holding, it's a very, very easy call. Should he have bet the flop? Most likely yes. Is that why he lost the hand? Hell no. Should he have called 59 cold? Damn right.

[vvganeshavv 4]

DON'T FEEL BAD, I LOST A TOURNIE YESTERDAY TO SOME GUY WHO CALLED A 3X BIG BLIND RAISE W/8 3 OFFSUITE!!!

[Socrates 0]

Seems like you were both pretty loose players, you said you couldn't see him with a better hand!? Did QJ ever cross your mind? Sounds like you didn't give any thought to being beat with a flop like that. Good luck, keep playing...what site do you play on?

[Tman 0]

was playing 2/3 no limit at a B/M cardroom yesterday had KK in the Big blind two callers I raise to 25 still to callers flops queen high bet out 30 guy goes over the top for his last 40 more to me, we both call again turn is an ace river queen they both had an ace A8/A10 lost a 200 dollar pot to a two outter :?

[CaneBrain 95]

You were a 4 to 1 favorite on the flop, but you called 59$ to win 81 (his 59 + 22 already in the pot). The pot odds were not near enough for you to call this bet even if you had the best hand. Not only is a straight possible out there, but there is a potential flush draw.I am confused....I thought you should always call with the best hand. The above statement, to me, seems like the stupidest thing ever written on this forum....but maybe I am missing something....if you are a 4 to 1 favorite on the flop shouldnt you be calling all bets or even raising?

[pkarcher 0]

Seems like you were both pretty loose players, you said you couldn't see him with a better hand!? Did QJ ever cross your mind? Sounds like you didn't give any thought to being beat with a flop like that. Good luck, keep playing...what site do you play on?

even if your opponent had QJ which I wouldn't put him on you still have 10 river outs which is better than an open ended straight draw which everyone seems to think you should fold to.

[wingnut7 0]

unless this was an extremely loose table you should have at least considered folding preflop. he raised it to 6xBB in early position, then you have one caller before it even gets to you. if you knew the first raiser was loose and it was folded to you its okay to call, he's not going to get lucky with 7 2 everytime, but you had to think that at least one of them had two overs on you if not a higher pair. say one of them has A Q and the other has K J, there are 12 cards in the deck that can beat you and if one has 99-AA you HAVE to flop a set which only happens about 10% of the time. nevertheless, its an interesting hand. im not sure what i would have done in that situation, its easy to say what i'd do in retrospect because i'm not in the heat of the moment.

[yeffy 0]

Seems like you were both pretty loose players, you said you couldn't see him with a better hand!? Did QJ ever cross your mind? Sounds like you didn't give any thought to being beat with a flop like that. Good luck, keep playing...what site do you play on?

What is the point of this statement? Whether it crossed his mind or not...he had the best hand, with a redraw.So , good luck, keep playing....and what site do YOU play on???? I'd love to play aginst someone who folds a set in a cash game everytime the board has a possible straight...yumm.

[Socrates 0]

Seems like you were both pretty loose players, you said you couldn't see him with a better hand!? Did QJ ever cross your mind? Sounds like you didn't give any thought to being beat with a flop like that. Good luck, keep playing...what site do you play on?

What is the point of this statement? Whether it crossed his mind or not...he had the best hand, with a redraw.So , good luck, keep playing....and what site do YOU play on???? I'd love to play aginst someone who folds a set in a cash game everytime the board has a possible straight...yumm.

Its just the situation, you have an early rasier making it 6x to go, yes, you hit your flop with, but the straight and flush draw is there, you check, now you've given up control of the hand, he has to think you missed and by semibluffing, he knows that he's in a good position to 1. get you to fold or 2. get you to call and his implied odds are great at that point. By calling that $59 you're hoping first that you are ahead and if not to hit the case 8 or runner runner if you're behind for a split.By no means would I fold a set everytime a draw came up, but I'd try and protect my hand and not give infinite pot odds to the raiser witha flop like that.

[Socrates 0]

Seems like you were both pretty loose players, you said you couldn't see him with a better hand!? Did QJ ever cross your mind? Sounds like you didn't give any thought to being beat with a flop like that. Good luck, keep playing...what site do you play on?

even if your opponent had QJ which I wouldn't put him on you still have 10 river outs which is better than an open ended straight draw which everyone seems to think you should fold to.

How can you say you wouldn't put him on that hand, have you played with him, do you know the betting patterns of this person. Were you in that game? Checking that flop and having someone essentially move in on you can't make you feel good about your hand. Especially when you don't have the pot odds to call. What about A7s or AJs any Ax of spades? Sorry he had a good hand, he just completely misplayed the hand and this is not a bad beat.

[jsdastud 0]

not a bad beat just a shitty play on his part. 27 reraise????

[PimpRock 0]

I cant believe this dude's play is getting flamed so bad. Lets get it right. We all play internet poker and we know its loose as hEll. For my money you made exactly the right call. First of all your raise pre-flop in a cash game is reasonable, although the one thing that might negate this is the stacks of the other players (are there the implied odds for you to hit your set?) When the original aggressor goes all in you MUST call. Forget the fact you are only going to win 80 dollars, your highly unlikely to get a better spot to break this dude tonight. The secong he goes all in I would be thinking Jacks, Queens, Kings or aces as he is trying to defend agaisnt a co-ordinated board.. Either way your getting your money in with the ebst of it. Maybe he has AJ and is making a play (which given the size of the pot is bad play) but again your getting your money in with the best of it... The only thing that might make me think twice is if it is a Rock / Tight player and you might read him for 99 or 10s and you think he is protecting his set. At the ehnd of the day its a cash game and if your sucked out on you rebuy and must fancy your chances against the dude playing 7 2 so strongly... I dont think its the worst bad beat ever (certainly not mathematically) but I just cannot believe you got flamed. Poker is a game of opinions and I gotta disagree with Hoosier on this one.

[Socrates 0]

He allowed the 72 to take control of the hand and 72 never rerasied, he just raised, besides he limped in with 88 and then called the rasie. If you're willing to put $12 in preflop UTG and give up position, why not rasie preflop and get the 72 out of there? I'm guessing that if he bets at the flop he doesn't go broke with this hand. It's unlikely that the original raiser would've rerasied the flop.

[Guest]

even if your opponent had QJ which I wouldn't put him on [/b]you still have 10 river outs which is better than an open ended straight draw which everyone seems to think you should fold to.

How can you say you wouldn't put him on that hand, have you played with him, do you know the betting patterns of this person. Were you in that game? Checking that flop and having someone essentially move in on you can't make you feel good about your hand. Especially when you don't have the pot odds to call. What about A7s or AJs any Ax of spades? Sorry he had a good hand, he just completely misplayed the hand and this is not a bad beat.What is this junk that people are spewing??????You WOULD'VE put someone who raised 6xBB on QJ???????What do you mean he didn't have pot odds to call???????Do you people just make this stuff up to suit your thoughts??????As for misplaying the hand...Of course he could've folded 88 to that kind of raise. He chose to take a flop, which he hit. We can argue that one all day and not get anywhere, though I'd have to see some merit in those who advocate putting those 8's in the muck preflop. After the flop, he could've bet half the pot, but he woulda been stuck calling a raise anyway. If Mr. 27offsuit was willing to raise it up UTG+1, he was going to bluff his OESD. No amount of correct play post-flop was going to save him.As for being afraid of QJ...Are you saying AA with a shorter stack wouldn't push in on this? Give me a freakin' break. There are quite a few hands that get bet out like this under these circumstances where a set of 8's is way ahead. Furthermore, he only needs to be ahead 20-25% of the time to justify calling with his draw to the boat in the case of a flopped straight. He wins 30%ish of the time anyway, and if there's a decent chance he's ahead, he'd only need 1-1 to justify the call. He's getting 1.8...which brings me toAs for pot odds....HE WAS GETTING GREAT ODDS ON A CALL, WHEN GIVEN THE RANGE OF HANDS YOU COULD REALISTICALLY PUT UTG+1 ON! Why is there any disagreement here? 1.8 to one when he likely has the best hand and could be way ahead is a no brainer call. Especially when the bettor only has 2 more dollars to put in. Jeez. Anyone who doesn't see this as being a really weak fold needs to reevaluate the hand and their ability to calculate odds. This discussion is absolutely mindblowing. I understand people questioning our OP for not betting the flop, and even for playing 88 to that raise. However, questioning the 59 dollar call under these circumstances is just plain silly.

[Socrates 0]

I cant believe this dude's play is getting flamed so bad. Lets get it right. We all play internet poker and we know its loose as hEll. For my money you made exactly the right call. First of all your raise pre-flop in a cash game is reasonable, although the one thing that might negate this is the stacks of the other players (are there the implied odds for you to hit your set?) When the original aggressor goes all in you MUST call. Forget the fact you are only going to win 80 dollars, your highly unlikely to get a better spot to break this dude tonight. The secong he goes all in I would be thinking Jacks, Queens, Kings or aces as he is trying to defend agaisnt a co-ordinated board.. Either way your getting your money in with the ebst of it. Maybe he has AJ and is making a play (which given the size of the pot is bad play) but again your getting your money in with the best of it... The only thing that might make me think twice is if it is a Rock / Tight player and you might read him for 99 or 10s and you think he is protecting his set. At the ehnd of the day its a cash game and if your sucked out on you rebuy and must fancy your chances against the dude playing 7 2 so strongly... I dont think its the worst bad beat ever (certainly not mathematically) but I just cannot believe you got flamed. Poker is a game of opinions and I gotta disagree with Hoosier on this one.

He didn't raise preflop. He limped UTG, UTG+1 rasied to $12, he flat called out of position and did NOT raise preflop.