gobears 0 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Villain is new at the table with no stats - min-raise on turn was a bit scary since 10J got there. Do we just get it in there on the turn or does anyone like calling here although the board is really draw heavy?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (MP2) ($107.70)MP3 ($31.95)CO ($104.70)Button ($140.60)SB ($49)BB ($100)UTG ($104)UTG+1 ($103.25)MP1 ($40.15)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9, 93 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, 3 foldsFlop: ($8.50) 8, 9, A(2 players)Hero bets $6, CO calls $6Turn: ($20.50) Q(2 players)Hero bets $14, CO raises to $28, Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 This is almost any big A from the CO recognizing draws, and a few two pair hands. Plus even though the JT draw matured on the turn, there were more draws picked up. We have the third nuts and we're only really dead-dead to the second nuts, which shows up in this spot almost never, and decent action. I think we come over the top and get it in. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 very meh spot. FR this is way more often the j10, but that board is so nasty for peeling and seeing the river. I guess hope for aq or 88 when you shove. Link to post Share on other sites
Shark527 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is one of those spots where you are never folding but there are also still a good number of draws out. A lot of scare cards can hit the river so I'd just shove over min raise to make it easy. Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is 2 pair a ton, Definitly ship it Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 This is 2 pair a ton, Definitly ship it Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Results: I just called although I felt like shipping it in but just felt he had 10J for some reason and the min-raise made me think he had a huge hand.River was the 4h which completed the FD; I checked, he bet about 1/2 the pot, I called and he turned over a pair of aces for top set. So I guess I saved some $ by playing this hand scared but I can't believe how many players are flatting behind with huge pocket pairs these days and then min-raising on a board with that many draws on it. I almost feel like I have to include a big pair in a villain's range these days no matter the action. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Results: I just called although I felt like shipping it in but just felt he had 10J for some reason and the min-raise made me think he had a huge hand.River was the 4h which completed the FD; I checked, he bet about 1/2 the pot, I called and he turned over a pair of aces for top set. So I guess I saved some $ by playing this hand scared but I can't believe how many players are flatting behind with huge pocket pairs these days and then min-raising on a board with that many draws on it. I almost feel like I have to include a big pair in a villain's range these days no matter the action.Jeez...he played his AA bad preflop and on the flop...well at least that saved you some money. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is almost any big A from the CO recognizing draws, and a few two pair hands. Plus even though the JT draw matured on the turn, there were more draws picked up. We have the third nuts and we're only really dead-dead to the second nuts, which shows up in this spot almost never, and decent action. I think we come over the top and get it in. Results: I just called although I felt like shipping it in but just felt he had 10J for some reason and the min-raise made me think he had a huge hand.River was the 4h which completed the FD; I checked, he bet about 1/2 the pot, I called and he turned over a pair of aces for top set. So I guess I saved some $ by playing this hand scared but I can't believe how many players are flatting behind with huge pocket pairs these days and then min-raising on a board with that many draws on it. I almost feel like I have to include a big pair in a villain's range these days no matter the action.Wow. Just wow. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 He had aces? What a ****ing retard.Ship the turn all day IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Sens-Eh 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 that would pretty much be enough for me to add that guy to my buddy list. (with a note that he will slow play that long) Link to post Share on other sites
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