The Official Obama Scorecard Thread

[vbnautilus 48]

I was explaining why I am a little skeptical of rasmussen.

For me, it was the Obama joker face next to the graph.

[Balloon guy 158]

For me, it was the Obama joker face next to the graph. anything that I can grab that allows me to continue my blind support of Obama

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[Balloon guy 158]

the joker obama is surpassed in stupidity by only the joker HITLER obama

Speaking strictly from a sociology perspective the Joker-Obama is a culturally relevant connection of two perfectly legitimate areas of popular culture being morphed to speak of the similarities of the two, while revealing the differences in a powerful way.In Obama we have a man who came from nowhere and achieved the height of his profession.In the joker we have a man who came from nowhere and also achieved the height of his profession.In Obama we have a man with no regard for other people's moneyIn the Joker we have a man who also has no regard for other people's moneyIn the Joker we have an actor who was rich and used his excess to buy drugs that killed him.In Obama we have an actor who used drugs, then wrote about it to get rich, and found fame to be as powerful a drug as cocaine.In the joker we have a a figure that young people can idolize because they don't think of the consequences of their idolatryIn Obama we have a figure that young people did idolize because they didn't think of the consequences of their idolatry

[Jeepster80125 0]

Speaking strictly from a sociology perspective the Joker-Obama is a culturally relevant connection of two perfectly legitimate areas of popular culture being morphed to speak of the similarities of the two, while revealing the differences in a powerful way.In Obama we have a man who came from nowhere and achieved the height of his profession.In the joker we have a man who came from nowhere and also achieved the height of his profession.In Obama we have a man with no regard for other people's moneyIn the Joker we have a man who also has no regard for other people's moneyIn the Joker we have an actor who was rich and used his excess to buy drugs that killed him.In Obama we have an actor who used drugs, then wrote about it to get rich, and found fame to be as powerful a drug as cocaine.In the joker we have a a figure that young people can idolize because they don't think of the consequences of their idolatryIn Obama we have a figure that young people did idolize because they didn't think of the consequences of their idolatry

How long did it take you to find this? Was it in your saved emails, or is there some sort of website where this crap is collected? Rush maybe?You so crazy.

[CaneBrain 95]

How long did it take you to find this? Was it in your saved emails, or is there some sort of website where this crap is collected? Rush maybe?You so crazy.

He needs something to keep him occupied IN THIS ECONOMY

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[El Guapo 8]

I actually did not think this would go through:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/ap_on_...detainee_prisonI think this is a terrible idea. These people should not be brought onto US soil, and they sure as hell should not be mixed with Federal Inmates. Just a bad, bad, bad idea.

[nutzbuster 7]

I actually did not think this would go through:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/ap_on_...detainee_prisonI think this is a terrible idea. These people should not be brought onto US soil, and they sure as hell should not be mixed with Federal Inmates. Just a bad, bad, bad idea.

wow.One step closer to bringing all that shit front and center into Americas heartland.Couple this with the brilliant decision to have the trials just a short walk from Ground Zero and you have to wonder just what the hell they are smoking in D.C.

[CaneBrain 95]

I actually did not think this would go through:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/ap_on_...detainee_prisonI think this is a terrible idea. These people should not be brought onto US soil, and they sure as hell should not be mixed with Federal Inmates. Just a bad, bad, bad idea.

They are turning it into a supermax prison. Supermax prisons are set up to limit the mixing so to speak. Guantanamo was not doing us any favors either and we need to put them somewhere. A supermax prison makes the most sense. No one has ever escaped from a supermax prison. This is just you being a little scared. That's natural. Just try to go to a happy place.

[El Guapo 8]

They are turning it into a supermax prison. Supermax prisons are set up to limit the mixing so to speak. Guantanamo was not doing us any favors either and we need to put them somewhere. A supermax prison makes the most sense. No one has ever escaped from a supermax prison. This is just you being a little scared. That's natural. Just try to go to a happy place.

I am not worried about them escaping. I am worried about Terroists inter mingling with our prison population, using it as a recruitment ground for Anti-American sentiment. Guantanamo Bay was set up for the exact reason it has been used. Just because it's had bad press doesn't mean it has stopped serving its purpose.

[CaneBrain 95]

I am not worried about them escaping. I am worried about Terroists inter mingling with our prison population, using it as a recruitment ground for Anti-American sentiment. Guantanamo Bay was set up for the exact reason it has been used. Just because it's had bad press doesn't mean it has stopped serving its purpose.

Press is a part of a war against an enemy that is not actually a country but more of a violent movement.And again, supermax prisons are set up to limit inter mingling as much as possible. If you are going to shut down Guantanamo, this is the most sensible thing to do.

[akoff 0]

Press is a part of a war against an enemy that is not actually a country but more of a violent movement.And again, supermax prisons are set up to limit inter mingling as much as possible. If you are going to shut down Guantanamo, this is the most sensible thing to do.

keep drinking the kool-aid

[CaneBrain 95]

keep drinking the kool-aid

yeah which one of us is most beholden to one party's ideals? hint: the guy who promotes his beliefs in his sig. is it a grape flavor?

[akoff 0]

yeah which one of us is most beholden to one party's ideals? hint: the guy who promotes his beliefs in his sig. is it a grape flavor?

The key though is that mine are right and....oh you get the point.The funny thing is outside of National Defence and fiscal policy i am pretty independent...i really don't give a damn about much cept for government keeping hands out of pockets and business in general. I have personal opinions but on some of the social issues but nearly as conservative as BG.The biggest issue I had with GB was fiscal....now with BHO i have many more issues but if he would stop being a socialist I could overlook many of his other flaws!! Not all of them cause that is just not reasonable.Want to double that bet on a 2nd term??

[Balloon guy 158]

They are turning it into a supermax prison. Supermax prisons are set up to limit the mixing so to speak. Guantanamo was not doing us any favors either and we need to put them somewhere. A supermax prison makes the most sense. No one has ever escaped from a supermax prison. This is just you being a little scared. That's natural. Just try to go to a happy place.

I think you are right that them being in a supermax is not a real issue because their days will be 23 hours of solitary, one hour of basketball court without a basketball.I personally don't like the idea that they get their day in court if that means they get to have a lawyer, and they get to use the court trial as a sounding board to get any message out. Fact is the mere picture of them in a court filled with 'hostile' westerners will be a propagandist poster of the poor muslim being tried by the great satan, and if they get to speak and their speech gets broadcasts in either print or God forbid on the TV, then we are basically ensuring the thing you liberals have been accusing Bush of for 8 years, creating new terrorist.Now if they try them behind closed doors, and nothing they say is EVER released, and then we kill them in a reasonable amount of time, then I will admit I was wrong and this worked out as best as it could.What do you think the chances of that are happening?And if it does, what are the chances I won't accuse your side of rushing to kill these people when they were in relatively ideal situation in Gitmo with their religious freedoms and food and sunshine?

[hblask 1]

They are turning it into a supermax prison. Supermax prisons are set up to limit the mixing so to speak. Guantanamo was not doing us any favors either and we need to put them somewhere. A supermax prison makes the most sense. No one has ever escaped from a supermax prison. This is just you being a little scared. That's natural. Just try to go to a happy place.

I am not worried about them escaping. I am worried about Terroists inter mingling with our prison population, using it as a recruitment ground for Anti-American sentiment. Guantanamo Bay was set up for the exact reason it has been used. Just because it's had bad press doesn't mean it has stopped serving its purpose.

I'm not worried about either of these things. The biggest threat is the terrorists that we *haven't* caught yet, coming here on some mission of martyrdom to free these guys. What weapons will they bring to US soil?On the bright side, there's probably a good chance that some of these prisoners will accidentally be left with some death row multiple violent offender, and that violent offender will somehow have gotten hold of a weapon.... oops, sorry Abdul, we'll tighten security real soon so that can't happen again.

[Balloon guy 158]

I'm not worried about either of these things. The biggest threat is the terrorists that we *haven't* caught yet, coming here on some mission of martyrdom to free these guys. What weapons will they bring to US soil?On the bright side, there's probably a good chance that some of these prisoners will accidentally be left with some death row multiple violent offender, and that violent offender will somehow have gotten hold of a weapon.... oops, sorry Abdul, we'll tighten security real soon so that can't happen again.

Yea throwing feces at an underpaid disciplined soldier who wants to make the military a career is going to be a little different than throwing feces at an underpaid prison guard who couldn't make it in law enforcement so had to settle for being a guard and the worse he will have to face is being laid off without pay for two days for severely beating a prisoner.

[85suited 0]

I am looking forward to their terroist buddies, landing at Ohare - setting up shop in the Chgo Suburbs, and plotting how to free them...Thank you Obama & Dick Durbin - you have hooked up our state! DO we get to count these jobs on recovery.gov?

[CaneBrain 95]

I am looking forward to their terroist buddies, landing at Ohare - setting up shop in the Chgo Suburbs, and plotting how to free them...Thank you Obama & Dick Durbin - you have hooked up our state! DO we get to count these jobs on recovery.gov?

Yeah, if it was that easy to get into the US as a terrorist, they would not have needed this as an excuse. But good point.BG, if you let them have their day they will make it into propoganda and if you do not let them have their day they will turn that refusal into propoganda. Catch-22.

[CaneBrain 95]

Want to double that bet on a 2nd term??

No thanks. If I lose, I am just counting on the Mayan calandar anyway...

[Balloon guy 158]

BG, if you let them have their day they will make it into propoganda and if you do not let them have their day they will turn that refusal into propoganda. Catch-22.

I think active propaganda with video of the trial and the terrorist getting to speak to the camera is a little worse than announcing that they were tried, found guilty and had a pork sausage shoved down their throats before they were executed.Maybe I am being biased though

[Balloon guy 158]

No thanks. If I lose, I am just counting on the Mayan calandar anyway...

Sounds like you and Obama's advisory staff have the same backup plans

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[CaneBrain 95]

I think active propaganda with video of the trial and the terrorist getting to speak to the camera is a little worse than announcing that they were tried, found guilty and had a pork sausage shoved down their throats before they were executed.Maybe I am being biased though

Or dense. It would be announced (by the imams, Ayatollahs, Al-Jezeera, and MSNBC) that the cowardly pig-dog Americans lacked the courage to try Muslim freedom fighters in open court preferring instead to suppress their innocence and their rights by shoving them into a dark hole in Cuba waiting to be executed.If you read a couple All In posts, you will get the hang of it.