The Czar 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I couldn't disagree more. The casual poker fan knows Phil Ivey. There's going to be in excess of $10m thrown around potentially. Goofs on this forum were downloading FCP left and right when DN was playing Dreamclown for chrisakes. I feel like it is extremely nieve to think Full Tilt isn't going to benefit substantially from this. Not to mention the amount of people who will rail and then open another window and play when they otherwise wouldn't have. Link to post Share on other sites
irishguy 14 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I couldn't disagree more. The casual poker fan knows Phil Ivey. There's going to be in excess of $10m thrown around potentially. Goofs on this forum were downloading FCP left and right when DN was playing Dreamclown for chrisakes. I feel like it is extremely nieve to think Full Tilt isn't going to benefit substantially from this. Not to mention the amount of people who will rail and then open another window and play when they otherwise wouldn't have.How are these people going to know about it? This info is out there because of poker forums, poker mags, poker radio. I would argue that 99% of the people who use these things are already playing online. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I couldn't disagree more. The casual poker fan knows Phil Ivey. There's going to be in excess of $10m thrown around potentially. Goofs on this forum were downloading FCP left and right when DN was playing Dreamclown for chrisakes. I feel like it is extremely nieve to think Full Tilt isn't going to benefit substantially from this. Not to mention the amount of people who will rail and then open another window and play when they otherwise wouldn't have.Exactly, the people who were downloading FCP were already on the forum and already played poker. How many people on 2+2 do you think don't have Full Tilt on their desktops?People who don't even have Full Tilt are not going to be that interested in railing a PLO game where they can't even see the cards. Again, all the publicity garnered is with people who already know what Full Tilt is. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 How are these people going to know about it? This info is out there because of poker forums, poker mags, poker radio. I would argue that 99% of the people who use these things are already playing online.Word of mouth is the most powerful advertising/marketing form that there is.Random fish that has been to cardplayer.com: You've seen Phil Ivey on TV, right?Random fish 2: Ya man, he's super sick!1 eleven!!!RFCP.com: Well he's going to play some young internet pro HU4ROLLZ on FULLTILTPOKER.COM!!!!!!!!!!!1111!! ELVELn!RF2: ZOMGZOMGONOELEVEN11!!!1!!!!then RF2 tells RF3,4,5. They each tell 3 people, and it balloons exponentially. Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Also, like I said, it's not just in new downloads. This will lead to more people playing. I may go on and rail this match for awhile and, inevitably I'm going to get the itch to open my own window when I might have just decided to watch CSI:Miami if not for this match. There are constantly new posts on here about which is the best site to play at,etc. It would seem to me this matchup of ~$10m gives them at lease some credibility, right?(the $10m figure is just a crude estimate as to what might take place.) Link to post Share on other sites
irishguy 14 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Word of mouth is the most powerful advertising/marketing form that there is.Random fish that has been to cardplayer.com: You've seen Phil Ivey on TV, right?Random fish 2: Ya man, he's super sick!1 eleven!!!RFCP.com: Well he's going to play some young internet pro HU4ROLLZ on FULLTILTPOKER.COM!!!!!!!!!!!1111!! ELVELn!RF2: ZOMGZOMGONOELEVEN11!!!1!!!!then RF2 tells RF3,4,5. They each tell 3 people, and it balloons exponentially.Obviously and while it may attract some I'd say by far the vast majority of people who "tune" in for this will be people who are actively involved in the online poker community. This has next to nothing to do with being a marketing ploy as some have speculated and has almost everything to do with gamblers looking for a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Obviously and while it may attract some I'd say by far the vast majority of people who "tune" in for this will be people who are actively involved in the online poker community. This has next to nothing to do with being a marketing ploy as some have speculated and has almost everything to do with gamblers looking for a gamble.I agree with you in the fact that this isn't a marketing ploy. I don't think Full Tilt "staged" this or anything, but I do believe they stand to reap some of the collateral benefits. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Word of mouth is the most powerful advertising/marketing form that there is.Random fish that has been to cardplayer.com: You've seen Phil Ivey on TV, right?Random fish 2: Ya man, he's super sick!1 eleven!!!RFCP.com: Well he's going to play some young internet pro HU4ROLLZ on FULLTILTPOKER.COM!!!!!!!!!!!1111!! ELVELn!RF2: ZOMGZOMGONOELEVEN11!!!1!!!!then RF2 tells RF3,4,5. They each tell 3 people, and it balloons exponentially.Then RF2 goes: Wait a sec, why on earth would Joe Smo want to watch an online poker game that I don't understand between people I don't know and without being able to see their cards or listen to Norman Chad? I think i'll stick with WSOP re-runs thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites
NoxKo 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 2009 not a good year so far for durrrr.Last year he made approximately $5.4M online.This year in just 2 weeks he's lost about $2.1M. Link to post Share on other sites
72offfsuit 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 2009 not a good year so far for durrrr.Last year he made approximately $5.4M online.This year in just 2 weeks he's lost about $2.1M.Here today, gone tomorrow : ) Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Here today, gone tomorrow : )Until next week when he wins 4mil back Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 So the general consensus is that Dwan would, effectively, spot a million to anyone in the world 4 tables heads up?If so he's either mega-rich or stupid. There has to be something else involved. Link to post Share on other sites
NaturalNine 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 2009 not a good year so far for durrrr.Last year he made approximately $5.4M online.This year in just 2 weeks he's lost about $2.1M.?MarketPulseEXTREME POKER STATSTop Online Money Makers 2009durrrr $510,273Phil Ivey $414,890Mafews $370,395DaEvils $295,898DIN_FRU $241,543Matt Hawrilenko $205,776DOOSHDOTCOM1 $167,867HOSS_TBF $138,678traheho $136,156Tdanger00 $127,722Highest Online Losses 2009LarsLuzak ($425,851)Patrik Antonius ($409,806)MR B 2 U SON ($290,333)Fatal Fog ($221,640)INTERNET POKERS ($173,610)BlueFlare ($154,001)STAADY ($130,005)trex313 ($115,245)BeepBeepImaJeep ($104,874)Urindanger ($98,499)I love all the durrrr hate. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 So the general consensus is that Dwan would, effectively, spot a million to anyone in the world 4 tables heads up?If so he's either mega-rich or stupid. There has to be something else involved.Again, no. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 He's a trust fund baby. Mommy and Daddy are loaded.This. Everyone who plays the nosebleeds has no respect for his game and knows that he's a huge rich fish. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 i did the math. if durrrr is a 3ptbb favorite it would mean that his expectation is about 1.2million, which is more than the juice he's giving up. i would guess that he must figure he's somewhere around there. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jono 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 He cannot have enough money to accept 3 of these challenges. Thats 4.5 mill escrowed right off the top and he could lose upwards of ten mill in each one. Link to post Share on other sites
uncooper 1 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 He cannot have enough money to accept 3 of these challenges. Thats 4.5 mill escrowed right off the top and he could lose upwards of ten mill in each one.Regardless of how much money he has, presumably he will accept them 1 at a time, and revoke his challenge if he goes broke. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 He cannot have enough money to accept 3 of these challenges. Thats 4.5 mill escrowed right off the top and he could lose upwards of ten mill in each one.Is he playing three simultaneously? Link to post Share on other sites
NoxKo 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 ?MarketPulseEXTREME POKER STATSTop Online Money Makers 2009durrrr $510,273Phil Ivey $414,890Mafews $370,395DaEvils $295,898DIN_FRU $241,543Matt Hawrilenko $205,776DOOSHDOTCOM1 $167,867HOSS_TBF $138,678traheho $136,156Tdanger00 $127,722Highest Online Losses 2009LarsLuzak ($425,851)Patrik Antonius ($409,806)MR B 2 U SON ($290,333)Fatal Fog ($221,640)INTERNET POKERS ($173,610)BlueFlare ($154,001)STAADY ($130,005)trex313 ($115,245)BeepBeepImaJeep ($104,874)Urindanger ($98,499)I love all the durrrr hate.From highstakesdb.com:High Stakes Online Poker Results(All sites, All Gametypes, 2009-01-01 to 2009-01-16)Winners Results Patrik Antonius $2.583.389,70 Gus Hansen $1.408.991,35 Ziigmund $1.015.016,50 Mafews $280.397,75 DaEvils $222.729,85OnTheRize $213.605,00 Eli Elezra $170.327,05 David Benefield $166.797,00 sunra18 $162.874,50 thaaj2004 $149.623,75 Losers Results durrrr $-2.149.472,75 Phil Ivey $-832.073,25 OMGClayAiken $-702.901,45 tsarrast $-418.086,50 trex313 $-374.455,20 LarsLuzak $-342.551,95 ActionJeff $-289.407,00 Cole South $-188.423,00 Bobby_Club $-138.577,55 INTERNET POKERS $-129.304,75 So these sites have completely different results. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 This isn't Durr - but it doesn't deserve it's own thread.lolwtfcall?$1000 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 21:49:32 ET - 2009/01/18Seat 5: Phil Ivey ($506,690.55)Seat 6: world1969 ($113,412)Seat 8: Ziigmund ($214,570.50)Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $500world1969 posts the big blind of $1,000The button is in seat #8*** HOLE CARDS ***Ziigmund raises to $3,500Phil Ivey raises to $11,500world1969 foldsZiigmund calls $8,000*** FLOP *** [7s Jd 4h]Phil Ivey bets $19,000Ziigmund calls $19,000*** TURN *** [7s Jd 4h] [Ad]Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to actPhil Ivey bets $50,000Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to actZiigmund calls $50,000*** RIVER *** [7s Jd 4h Ad] [2c]Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to actChat Monitor (Support): blufferbadazz69 has lost their chat privilege for 2 minutes. Spamming the table is prohibited.Phil Ivey bets $162,000Ziigmund calls $134,070.50, and is all inUncalled bet of $27,929.50 returned to Phil Ivey*** SHOW DOWN ***Phil Ivey shows [9s 6c 4d As] two pair, Aces and FoursZiigmund mucksPhil Ivey wins the pot ($430,140) with two pair, Aces and FoursZiigmund is sitting out*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $430,141 | Rake $1Board: [7s Jd 4h Ad 2c]Seat 5: Phil Ivey (small blind) collected ($430,140) Link to post Share on other sites
coug2828 8 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah, like a super user account? http://www.pokerkingblog.com/2009/01/19/pa...s-on-the-month/ Link to post Share on other sites
NoxKo 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Online poker for the year so far (per highstakesdb.com):Antonius +$2,924,163.40 Hansen +$2,406,406.89LarsLuzak -$1,566,874.25 durrrr -$2,780,874.79 Link to post Share on other sites
Giggidy 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 durrrr -$2,780,874.79Wow, umm, ouch - isn't that like 40% of what he made last year online? Link to post Share on other sites
NoxKo 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Wow, umm, ouch - isn't that like 40% of what he made last year online?Last year he made about $5.4M online. So actually he's given half of that back so far this year.Here's a related thread about it: http://www.highstakesdb.com/forum/Topic286425-27-1.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
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