KevinFKHS 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Villains was a 30/0/4 tard, given that the turn card will never scare him, should I check and try to get a free river card or keep the pressure on him?No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopButton ($22.53)SB ($5.61)Hero (BB) ($10)UTG ($5.87)MP ($10.39)Preflop: Hero is BB with , :khUTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises $0.40, UTG calls $0.40Flop: ($1.05) , , (2 players)Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75Turn: ($2.55) (2 players)Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I really don't know; I can see a check to re-evaluate. You're right that he's never folding to a turn barrel, FE is like 2%. Problem is you're going to c/f a lot of the time. What you could do is try to set your own price. He's probably going to pot it if you check, so bet like $1.75 and shove any heart or over on the river - c/f otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I think check/fold and shove both have merit. Depends on the villain. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 this is where a fold to c-bet stat is pretty useful, if it is lower than say 60% i would shove, if it is higher than that i would fold. 203,940 games 0.006 secs 33,990,000 games/secBoard: Jh 3h 7cDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 69.837% 68.21% 01.62% 139112 3313.00 { AhKh }Hand 1: 30.163% 28.54% 01.62% 58202 3313.00 { 66+, 22, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }I did a quick range that someone might float with I would shove lots. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Raise bigger pf, you'd want to make it 0.4 or 0.5 if you were in position. OOP you want ot make it 0.5 or 0.6. Turn play is villain dependent, I don't usually bet here. I either c/f against an okay opponent that prices me out, but agginst a calling station tard with high aggression (such as this guy) I think C/R putting him in on the turn is a fine play. My reasoning is that he probably floats a lot (would be nice to have stats on this like No_Neck said), if he's floating lots of flops, turns that pair the board are great because I think he missed the flop more often than not and if he missed the flop he must have missed the turn if it's the same card. Add that in with flush draw and two overs, I think you see folds often enough, are often good with AK high, and get there enough that it's profitable. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I fire the turn and call a shove cause he's short. He can be floating the flop with a number of hands that contain air which while we're ahead of, no reason to let him spike something random when we have so much equity here and don't really care if he shoves on us. If he calls the turn he's never folding the river so I only bet if we hit flush or A/KMark Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 fire the turn near pot. I hate to give up here, yes his j10off calls us down, but we're still solidly ahead and able to push him off a lot of hands, run down the rest. And f him he's a short stack, swing the hammer of justice. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Anyone like a check/raise all in on the turn?We can get some extra value from his floats and still have like 30% equity if our c/r gets called by a jack. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 No I hate it... Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 No I hate it...lol whoops, totally missed your earlier reply Link to post Share on other sites
KevinFKHS 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 Ok, thanks everyone for the input, here's what I didNo-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownButton ($22.53)SB ($5.61)Hero (BB) ($10)UTG ($5.87)MP ($10.39)Preflop: Hero is BB with , :khUTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises $0.40, UTG calls $0.40Flop: ($1.05) , , (2 players)Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75Turn: ($2.55) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $2.55, Hero raises $5.10, UTG calls $2.07 (All-In)River: ($11.79) (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $11.79Results:Hero had , (one pair, sevens).UTG had , (two pair, nines and sevens).Outcome: UTG won $11.21:(My thinking on the turn was, that besides weak one pair hands imo a lot of air/drawing type hands were in his range, and I could either get him to bet worse and check shove on him with maybe even some FE, or that he just checks behind, which I wouldn't mind either, since now I can valuebet if a good card comes or just give up if I miss...opinions? Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Right on, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
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