KevinFKHS 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Villains new to the table...what's our calling range here(somehow his line doesn't make sense to me!?):No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopButton ($6.05)SB ($7.31)Hero (BB) ($10)UTG ($4)MP ($11.35)CO ($9.85)Preflop: Hero is BB with X XUTG (poster) raises $0.35, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25Flop: ($1.45) , , (4 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50Turn: ($2.45) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80River: ($4.05) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG raises $2.35 (All-In), Hero calls $2.25Total pot: $8.75 Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Villains new to the table...what's our calling range here(somehow his line doesn't make sense to me!?):I don't understand how his "line doesn't make sense" he bet every street, I would think I would call with AK or better probably, Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The only hand you could have that makes sense to me is a flush draw. So if you're debating the call it must be something like A5cc? If I had a flush draw I'd probably C/R get it in on the flop. I'd probably C/R any two in my range that I wanted to proceed with actually. If I had a pocket pair, I'd either c/f or get it in.It's tough to say my calling range, his betting is weird and your passiveness is weird too. I feel like you could have mid pp or the flush draw that hit a pair type hands. Both of those should C/R flop IMO. I'd probably fold them here if I played this passively. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinFKHS 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 I don't understand how his "line doesn't make sense" he bet every street, I would think I would call with AK or better probably, huh!? That's what I mean by it...it doesn't make sense for him to have a hand here.............(!?) Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I'd call with any A given that villain posted utg, obv is defending that post, and board totally bricks off, he's obv a donk cause he bought in short, etc. He has air here so much.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 huh!? That's what I mean by it...it doesn't make sense for him to have a hand here.............(!?)ignore the AK part of that advice I had it confused with a different board. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 UTG (poster) raises $0.35, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25I don't know what that means. UTG (poster)Anyway, we need something to go against a shorty because their range is mostly pocket pairs. The value of our hand crashes and burns on a paired flop if we don't hit it. I guess if forced to answer your question, I would say we need a Q in our hand or 77+ to commit after the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 The UTG(poster) thing means that they posted the big blind that hand instead of wait for the BB to come to them, ftr. Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 The UTG(poster) thing means that they posted the big blind that hand instead of wait for the BB to come to them, ftr.I think mt knows that. I think he's implying its something he wouldn't do.A donk UTG posts and bets 3-streets. Methink someone got AA or KK on his first hand, that said I call with 88+, Qx, 6x. If I had the nfd on the flop I'm c/r too.I don't know if I could make a Kenny Tran-esque A-hi call, as a few guys have suggested. I don't know how this is "air so much of the time" when we haven't seen anything of this player and his tendencies. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinFKHS 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 Okay, here' what I did:No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownButton ($6.05)SB ($7.31)Hero (BB) ($10)UTG ($4)MP ($11.35)CO ($9.85)Preflop: Hero is BB with , UTG (poster) raises $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25Flop: ($1.45) , , (4 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50Turn: ($2.45) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80River: ($4.05) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG raises $2.35 (All-In), Hero calls $2.35Total pot: $8.75Results:Hero had , (two pair, sevens and sixes).UTG had , (one pair, sixes).Outcome: Hero won $8.32:)77 was pretty much the bottom of my calling range. I just wanted to know if that call is profitable against an unknown shorty-donk. I guess it is, thanks for all the input! Any opinions on how I played the hand and if it was to passive...I was just trying to get to showdown I guess...? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I don't know what that means. UTG (poster)Anyway, we need something to go against a shorty because their range is mostly pocket pairs. The value of our hand crashes and burns on a paired flop if we don't hit it. I guess if forced to answer your question, I would say we need a Q in our hand or 77+ to commit after the flop. Okay, here' what I did:No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownButton ($6.05)SB ($7.31)Hero (BB) ($10)UTG ($4)MP ($11.35)CO ($9.85)Preflop: Hero is BB with , UTG (poster) raises $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25Flop: ($1.45) , , (4 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50Turn: ($2.45) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80River: ($4.05) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG raises $2.35 (All-In), Hero calls $2.35Total pot: $8.75Results:Hero had , (two pair, sevens and sixes).UTG had , (one pair, sixes).Outcome: Hero won $8.32:)77 was pretty much the bottom of my calling range. I just wanted to know if that call is profitable against an unknown shorty-donk. I guess it is, thanks for all the input! Any opinions on how I played the hand and if it was to passive...I was just trying to get to showdown I guess...?<3 me Link to post Share on other sites
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