nutzbuster 7 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 <3 monkeys eating peanuts.A+ also for content.Markbut....but what if the monkeys just sat there throwing their poop at each other? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Absolutely. I just think that the neuroscience suggests that the way to get better is less about consciously learning what different "tells" mean, and more about becoming more open to resonating with other person.OMG, just came to me. We could turn Jonas into a super poker bot!!!! Ivey, we are coming for you!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 Mentalism a bit?(Which I've always thought was an interesting concept for poker players)not sure what you mean... like mentalism like psychics? but....but what if the monkeys just sat there throwing their poop at each other?duck?OMG, just came to me. We could turn Jonas into a super poker bot!!!! Ivey, we are coming for you!!!!i have no objection to being turned into a super poker bot. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 not sure what you mean... like mentalism like psychics?Mentalism is not the same thing. Plenty of them pretend to do psychic type stuff, as an act or whatever... but it's more about reading body language, but like really really good. I don't know tons of specific details, but it's nothing mystical. This sounds like it has some connection to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalism Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 You nerds could also use this to help you get laid.*cough... you know who you are. Link to post Share on other sites
Potomophobia 17 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 When they do a study of drunken monkeys, let me know. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 Mentalism is not the same thing. Plenty of them pretend to do psychic type stuff, as an act or whatever... but it's more about reading body language, but like really really good. I don't know tons of specific details, but it's nothing mystical. This sounds like it has some connection to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalism Ahh yeah I see what you mean. Those guys might just have super excellent mirror neurons, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites
DoinSublime 0 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 VB, does this mean if you give me a brain scan it will make me a better poker player? Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 VB, does this mean if you give me a brain scan it will make me a better poker player?whoah. long time, no see. hope all is well with you.if a brain scan makes for a better brain, then i vote free cat scans for all the women! Link to post Share on other sites
DoinSublime 0 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 whoah. long time, no see. hope all is well with you.thank you Q, I've been well and have had a good break away from poker. I feel ready to play again. I'll see you on irc sooner than later. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 VB, does this mean if you give me a brain scan it will make me a better poker player?Geez man science can't perform miracles.... Link to post Share on other sites
DoinSublime 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Geez man science can't perform miracles.... :club: Link to post Share on other sites
jcashx36x 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 thank you Q, I've been well and have had a good break away from poker. I feel ready to play again. I'll see you on irc sooner than later. He's baaaaaaaaaack. Hope all is good w/you bro. merry xmas Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Would read again A+++Seriously, that's a very interesting and valid point you make, as well as offering some insight on the most powerful organism in the world, the human brain. Link to post Share on other sites
owise1 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Good read. I am wondering if people from different areas of the world would react in the same manner. My guess is not. It reminds me of an article I read where people from The U.S. and Japan (i think) were shown several pictures of facial expressions and then asked to describe them. Most people in the U.S. had the same descriptions, for example: happy, sad, angry... But when the Japanese where show the pictures they had different answers than the americans. For instance, one picture that was described by most americans as 'horror' was described by the Japanese as only 'surprised'All facial expressions are thus not universal. And I would guess that you might get into trouble mirroring someone from overseas. owise1 Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Good read. I am wondering if people from different areas of the world would react in the same manner. My guess is not. It reminds me of an article I read where people from The U.S. and Japan (i think) were shown several pictures of facial expressions and then asked to describe them. Most people in the U.S. had the same descriptions, for example: happy, sad, angry... But when the Japanese where show the pictures they had different answers than the americans. For instance, one picture that was described by most americans as 'horror' was described by the Japanese as only 'surprised'All facial expressions are thus not universal. And I would guess that you might get into trouble mirroring someone from overseas. owise1Actually facial expressions are universal to some extent, although we do have an easier time recognizing the ones from our own racial group. In some famous studies in the late 1970s Paul Ekman went to Papua New Guinea to show isolated tribesmen there pictures of facial emotions from other cultures and they were able to recognize the basic emotions of fear, anger, disgust, happiness, surprise, and sadness. That said, as you point out there are some cultural differences. Japanese people tend to focus on the eyes more when looking for emotion, compared to americans who look toward the mouth, which might have to do with emotion being more controlled in japanese culture (emotion in the eyes is not as easily suppressed). Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 when I play live I look at several indicators, 1st the eyes, the hand movements, facial expression, breathing patterns, color changes, body movements etc. In the field were I work, when the patients can get aggressive you can often tell by looking at the eyes, and there body stance or posture. They could be talking which is also a give away but there movements is more of a give away, it often gives us a chance to get more prepared. The repetitve nature of brain allows us to often learn predictive behaviours such as what VB has been talking about so when I see changes from the patterns in there moves I become aware to what they represent thus if it's a bluff take avantage of it or if they have a good hand I fold. I try to get seat 5 so that I get a good view of everyone. That's one of the reasons I don't do well playing on the net because I am so well trained to visual cues,as to where I do well playing live. As for the cultures it is interesting cause I am noticing different give aways for the Asians they are very difficult to pick up but possible. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 when I play live I look at several indicators, 1st the eyes, the hand movements, facial expression, breathing patterns, color changes, body movements etc. In the field were I work, when the patients can get aggressive you can often tell by looking at the eyes, and there body stance or posture. They could be talking which is also a give away but there movements is more of a give away, it often gives us a chance to get more prepared. The repetitve nature of brain allows us to often learn predictive behaviours such as what VB has been talking about so when I see changes from the patterns in there moves I become aware to what they represent thus if it's a bluff take avantage of it or if they have a good hand I fold. I try to get seat 5 so that I get a good view of everyone. That's one of the reasons I don't do well playing on the net because I am so well trained to visual cues,as to where I do well playing live. As for the cultures it is interesting cause I am noticing different give aways for the Asians they are very difficult to pick up but possible.QFT - Some one should frame this and post it in their office. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Say its a blow job scene. You're not only receiving it, you're also giving it on some level.you just blew my mind. Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 you just blew my mind.and because you're watching, you're also blowing HIS mind. Link to post Share on other sites
Acekob 0 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 I've now learnt mind-control throug the internetTY OP!#Game No : 7647420014 ***** Hand History for Game 7647420014 *****Texas Hold'em Trny:43573935 Level:4 Stakes(200/400) - Thursday, December 25, 15:24:44 ET 2008Table $100 Freeroll (1586301) Table #337 (Real Money)Seat 4 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 4: Acekob ( 420 )Seat 2: KnacKerLV ( 3,240 )Seat 9: Qsh182 ( 2,620 )Seat 8: jkolobok ( 2,080 )Seat 1: mcargill ( 2,580 )Seat 3: nanaxy ( 14,800 )Seat 6: neuweg111 ( 1,660 )Seat 10: schumimions ( 6,940 )Seat 7: vorkuta82 ( 1,940 )Trny:43573935 Level:4 Stakes(200/400)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to Acekob [ 9c Qc ]jkolobok foldsQsh182 foldsschumimions calls [200]mcargill foldsKnacKerLV foldsnanaxy foldsAcekob raises [400]neuweg111 foldsbalukira has joined the table.Player balukira has been moved from table 370 to this tablevorkuta82 calls [200]schumimions calls [200]** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 6s, Ac ]vorkuta82 checksschumimions checksAcekob is all-In [20]vorkuta82 calls [20]fold dudeu'r not pot commitedschumimions folds** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]vorkuta82 shows [ 7s, Ts ]a pair of Sixes.Acekob shows [ 9c, Qc ]a pair of Sixes with Queen kicker.Acekob wins 1,340 chips from the main pot with a pair of Sixes with Queen kicker. Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Finally got around to this. Can't wair for part 2 Link to post Share on other sites
twister929 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Was there ever a part 2 to this? Searched but couldn't find it. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Was there ever a part 2 to this? Searched but couldn't find it.err... umm.... I have started part 2 several times and scrapped it. Now that I have a reputation to live up to I guess I will try again. Link to post Share on other sites
herly33 1 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 so VB just curious do actually have a B.S. in B.S.?No but really, did u go to college and if so what was your field of study, i.e. Doctorate or Masters of?And if so what University? Link to post Share on other sites
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