The Offical I Hate Karma, Astrology And Other New Age Crap Thread

[HollywoodAFD 0]

Karma is Gods way of saying "I warned ya !"

[brvheart 1,755]

Much as apple and fruit have nothing to do with each other.

More like in the spaghetti and blankets kind of way. True Christianity has nothing to do with the established 'church'. It's a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Most, if not all, of the things that people in these forums hate about Christianity... Jesus hates also.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

More like in the spaghetti and blankets kind of way. True Christianity has nothing to do with the established 'church'. It's a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Most, if not all, of the things that people in these forums hate about Christianity... Jesus hates also.

Sooo... the haters are actually on the same side with Jesus.... ergo they are really Christians !ZING !

[speedz99 145]

Most, if not all, of the things that people in these forums hate about Christianity... Jesus hates also.

It would be great if that was true. The problem is that many Christians disagree with you about a lot of issues regarding the religion. Of course you'll say that means they aren't real Christians, but then they would say the same about you. And it leaves us with no choice but to lump you all in together.

[brvheart 1,755]

It would be great if that was true. The problem is that many Christians disagree with you about a lot of issues regarding the religion. Of course you'll say that means they aren't real Christians, but then they would say the same about you. And it leaves us with no choice but to lump you all in together.

I don't think it's true that most Christians would say I'm wrong after me showing them the parts of the Bible that apply to whatever issue we are talking about. It's simply that most Christians don't read or care about what the Bible says enough to actually read it. I think that they are Christians from a religious standpoint, but they are not followers of Christ.Also, I don't think it's necessarily wise to lump everyone together. I don't view you and Crow in even close to the same light.

[NortonFan 0]

I agree with the whole Karma discussion but the main thing I got from this thread is I seem to be attracted to the tranny in Bigs signature. Thanks for that Big. I know it's a bit late but I also give you my condolences Big, I can't even begin to imagine losing one of my parents.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

I don't think it's true that most Christians would say I'm wrong after me showing them the parts of the Bible that apply to whatever issue we are talking about. It's simply that 1) most Christians don't read or care about what the Bible says enough to actually read it. I think that 2)they are Christians from a religious standpoint, but they are not followers of Christ.

Agree with the first statement but not the second.I think many people, certainly in the States, claim to be a Christian out of ease and because it's the norm but they are no more Christian than Crow is. One must be a follower of Christ to be a Christian.

[speedz99 145]

I don't think it's true that most Christians would say I'm wrong after me showing them the parts of the Bible that apply to whatever issue we are talking about. It's simply that most Christians don't read or care about what the Bible says enough to actually read it. I think that they are Christians from a religious standpoint, but they are not followers of Christ.

I think that you believe so strongly that you are right that you think it's impossible that many Christians could disagree with your interpretation of the bible, whether in terms of general ideas or specific passages. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that other people might think that you are. I dunno...maybe "most" was an exaggeration.

Also, I don't think it's necessarily wise to lump everyone together. I don't view you and Crow in even close to the same light.

Oh, that's not really what I mean. I don't view you, Hollywood, and Lois in the same light. I just think that you're all Christians. I think it's perfectly fair for you to make the blanket statement that me and crow are atheists even though we don't necessarily agree everything (plus I'm agnostic, but I'm not sure who else around here is as well, so the atheist thing is an easier example).

[El Guapo 8]

(plus I'm agnostic, but I'm not sure who else around here is as well, so the atheist thing is an easier example).

I am as well. That is probably why I like the majority of your posts in this section of the forum. We are the proverbial fence sitters.

[SlapStick 0]

I am as well. That is probably why I like the majority of your posts in this section of the forum. We are the proverbial fence sitters.

Count me in too. I always thought it, but kind of just was a default catholic, only 2 weeks ago I realised that I will never ever again tell someone I am catholic.

[speedz99 145]

I am as well. That is probably why I like the majority of your posts in this section of the forum. We are the proverbial fence sitters.

I just like telling everyone else that they don't know what they're talking about while never really saying anything myself.

Count me in too. I always thought it, but kind of just was a default catholic, only 2 weeks ago I realised that I will never ever again tell someone I am catholic.

I still say I'm jewish, but if it's a real conversation I follow it up with how I really feel.

[El Guapo 8]

Count me in too. I always thought it, but kind of just was a default catholic, only 2 weeks ago I realised that I will never ever again tell someone I am catholic.

Well I was baptized catholic, as pretty much every Irish person in America was 30 years ago. But I have never once attended mass.

I just like telling everyone else that they don't know what they're talking about while never really saying anything myself.

Is there any other way?

I still say I'm jewish, but if it's a real conversation I follow it up with how I really feel.

Yeah, definitely depends on who I am talking to.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

I just like telling everyone else that they don't know what they're talking about while never really saying anything myself.

There's a few in here that do that.It's funny when you do though....

[chgocubs99 0]

There's a few in here that do that.It's funny when you do though....

For example, over the first few pages of this thread:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=131347

[SlapStick 0]

I still say I'm jewish, but if it's a real conversation I follow it up with how I really feel.

Yeah, definitely depends on who I am talking to.

Well I live in Israel so I overuse the killed Jesus card a ridiculous amount. Asides from that I'm not catholic.

[El Guapo 8]

Well I live in Israel so I overuse the killed Jesus card a ridiculous amount.

How's that working out for you?

[SlapStick 0]

How's that working out for you?

Israelis are a great laugh. My friends just say "good riddance" or "you'll be next if you don't watch it". The average person is not so religious, my foreign friends I work with who made aliya are much more religious than tel aviv israelis, some zionists etc. On Yom Kippur I had a BBQ with all Israelis while all my foreign friends were fasting.I highly recommend Tel Aviv, don't believe the hype.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

Obviously I am also very sorry to hear about your loss BigD.As far as the thread topic goes, here's another one to add to the list. People who just seem to make up their own religion, saying that Christianity has it all wrong and instead all they have to do is "be a good person" and they will get into "heaven." What's a good person? Some subjective assessment based on the person. It boggles my mind that people can criticize Christianity and then go ahead and actually hold such a belief.

[vbnautilus 48]

Obviously I am also very sorry to hear about your loss BigD.As far as the thread topic goes, here's another one to add to the list. People who just seem to make up their own religion, saying that Christianity has it all wrong and instead all they have to do is "be a good person" and they will get into "heaven." What's a good person? Some subjective assessment based on the person. It boggles my mind that people can criticize Christianity and then go ahead and actually hold such a belief.

So you think that Christianity is the only possible basis for ethics?

[HollywoodAFD 0]

So you think that Christianity is the only possible basis for ethics?

I hope he doesn't think that.There are some who obviously aren't good people and are not ethical but I don't think it has anything to do with their disbelief in a God.More likely just living a crappy life and hate people.The only true atheist I know personally is a real good person... a very good friend of mine.

[speedz99 145]

As far as the thread topic goes, here's another one to add to the list. People who just seem to make up their own religion, saying that Christianity has it all wrong and instead all they have to do is "be a good person" and they will get into "heaven." What's a good person? Some subjective assessment based on the person. It boggles my mind that people can criticize Christianity and then go ahead and actually hold such a belief.

Well, first of all, at some point people "made up" Christianity. Also, the whole point of the atheism/agnosticism/karma/humanism/whatever has absolutely nothing to do with getting into heaven, or any version of heaven. The question of "what's a good person" is an issue for every religion (or non-religion) ever created, so that's not a knock on any one belief structure.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

So you think that Christianity is the only possible basis for ethics?

Not at all. On the contrary, I tend to be more critical of people who are religious from an ethical standpoint than those who aren't; I won't go into that though. But I also think it's pretty ridiculous to just say "If I'm a good person (subjectively decided upon), I go to this magical afterlife. I'm just more comfortable with that thought, so I treat it as true." I find that just as ridiculous as any particular religions.All I merely meant to say was that I'm bothered by people who think Christianity (or other religions, but since I live in America I am mostly exposed to that particular religion) is stupid but then actually apparently think they can just make up their own rules of who gets into heaven. Hopefully that adaquately addresses all the points bought up above.

[BigDMcGee 3,353]

All I merely meant to say was that I'm bothered by people who think Christianity (or other religions, but since I live in America I am mostly exposed to that particular religion) is stupid but then actually apparently think they can just make up their own rules of who gets into heaven. Hopefully that adaquately addresses all the points bought up above.

I agree completely with this. I used to live in the puget sound, rife with hippies, and so many people I meant were anti-christian, didn't think it held any validity, but they believed instead in all kinds of random pagan bullsht, like astrology, or earth mothers, or the celtic pantheon and what not. I would laugh at all of them.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

Not at all. On the contrary, I tend to be more critical of people who are religious from an ethical standpoint than those who aren't; I won't go into that though. But I also think it's pretty ridiculous to just say "If I'm a good person (subjectively decided upon), I go to this magical afterlife. I'm just more comfortable with that thought, so I treat it as true." I find that just as ridiculous as any particular religions.All I merely meant to say was that I'm bothered by people who think Christianity (or other religions, but since I live in America I am mostly exposed to that particular religion) is stupid but then actually apparently think they can just make up their own rules of who gets into heaven. Hopefully that adaquately addresses all the points bought up above.

There's LOTS of people who do that.They don't like religions because that requires too much of them so they just make up their own beliefs.It's easier that way.lol

[Swift_Psycho 1]

There's LOTS of people who do that.They don't like religions because that requires too much of them so they just make up their own beliefs.

Yes indeed, there are a lot of people who do it. I don't at all mind that people have disagreements on ethical opinions. I DO very much find it ridiculous that people don't see the absurdity of saying such personal assessments on right and wrong are perfectly aligned with some deity in determining who gets into "heaven."