jeff_536 3 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 go by how many big blind's you have, not your M in sngs. jeff, if its a tight table i turbo push. depends how light the sb/bb will call off.hard to say, but no one was really getting out of line. As for the M rating, that comes automatically with FTR converter.Here's the result: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.40 Tournament, 125/250 Blinds 25 Ante (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comUTG (t2050)Hero (MP) (t1845)CO (t1075)Button (t1580)SB (t3535)BB (t4915)Hero's M: 3.51Preflop: Hero is MP with 10 , 10 1 fold, Hero raises to t1820 (All-In), 2 folds, SB calls t1695, BB calls t1570Flop: (t5610) J , J , Q (3 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, BB checksTurn: (t5610) 6 (3 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, BB checksRiver: (t5610) A (3 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, BB bets t1000, SB calls t1000Total pot: t7610didn't show up. SB had KJ and BB had AA Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Had an utterly brutal day yesterday in the $10 turbos...went 4 and 7...blahhhhhhh That puts me at 19 and 13 overall...time to step it up...hope to get some in tonight...gl to all you u who are playing... Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Remember the luckbox idiot with the 10s?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00+$0.80 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds 15 Ante (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comBB (t1615)Hero (UTG) (t3205)MP (t2920)CO (t3930)Button (t1475)SB (t1855)Hero's M: 10.17Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, 10Hero folds I play it like that. You are 2/6, no need to raise with AT Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 What do you all think about this hand...Was my fold justified?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 20 Ante (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comJariso13 (CO) (t1675)Button (t2285)SB (t1005)BB (t3435)UTG (t4245)MP1 (t520)MP2 (t1835)Jariso13's M: 3.81Preflop: Jariso13 is CO with A, QUTG raises to t400, MP1 raises to t500 (All-In), 5 folds, UTG calls t100Flop: (t1440) J, 2, 10(2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t1440) 4(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t1440) J(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t1440Main pot: t1440 between UTG and MP1, won by UTGResults in white below: UTG had A, Q (flush, Ace high).MP1 had K, K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).Outcome: UTG won t1440 Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 What do you all think about this hand...Was my fold justified?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 20 Ante (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comJariso13 (CO) (t1675)Button (t2285)SB (t1005)BB (t3435)UTG (t4245)MP1 (t520)MP2 (t1835)Jariso13's M: 3.81Preflop: Jariso13 is CO with A, QUTG raises to t400, MP1 raises to t500 (All-In), 5 folds, UTG calls t100Flop: (t1440) J, 2, 10(2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t1440) 4(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t1440) J(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t1440Main pot: t1440 between UTG and MP1, won by UTGResults in white below: UTG had A, Q (flush, Ace high).MP1 had K, K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).Outcome: UTG won t1440 I prolly fold it too, even if he doubles. You are still 5/7, and its a BIG chuck of your stack Link to post Share on other sites
litlebullet 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I prolly fold it too, even if he doubles. You are still 5/7, and its a BIG chuck of your stack+1 we shouldn't be playing less than kk against him. I'd have trouble folding QQ even tho I prob should Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 What do you all think about this hand...Was my fold justified?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 20 Ante (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comJariso13 (CO) (t1675)Button (t2285)SB (t1005)BB (t3435)UTG (t4245)MP1 (t520)MP2 (t1835)Jariso13's M: 3.81Preflop: Jariso13 is CO with A, QUTG raises to t400, MP1 raises to t500 (All-In), 5 folds, UTG calls t100Flop: (t1440) J, 2, 10(2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t1440) 4(2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t1440) J(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t1440Main pot: t1440 between UTG and MP1, won by UTGResults in white below: UTG had A, Q (flush, Ace high).MP1 had K, K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).Outcome: UTG won t1440 yup, i'm folding there every time Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. bubbled again. can't win a race. three losses in a row. Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Thanks for the feedback about the hand...Had a nice 4-0 night...2-0 while studying so that was pretty nice...Puts me at 23 and 13 overall... Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Oh jeezus, you gotta be kidding me:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 20 Ante (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (SB) (t1780)BB (t1120)UTG (t5725)MP (t2185)CO (t1960)Button (t2230)Hero's M: 4.24Preflop: Hero is SB with J , J 4 folds, Hero raises to t400, BB raises to t1100 (All-In), Hero calls t700Flop: (t2320) K , 6 , 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t2320) K (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t2320) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: t2320Results:Hero had J , J (two pair, Kings and Jacks).BB had J , K (three of a kind, Kings).Outcome: BB won t2320 Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 and a couple fucking hands later:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 20 Ante (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (MP) (t1420)CO (t2180)Button (t5785)SB (t1005)BB (t2400)UTG (t2210)Hero's M: 3.38Preflop: Hero is MP with K , K 1 fold, Hero raises to t1400 (All-In), 2 folds, SB calls t885 (All-In), 1 foldFlop: (t2290) 10 , 7 , A (2 players, 2 all-in)Turn: (t2290) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)River: (t2290) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: t2290Results:SB had A , 6 (two pair, Aces and sevens).Hero had K , K (two pair, Kings and sevens).Outcome: SB won t2290 Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 ouch Link to post Share on other sites
Dago 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Up to 8 tabling the 5$ turbo's now ... don't think I can handle higher than that soon though.played 16 won 9 .... not that great, (56%, 6.8$ profit) but considering I lost KK against AT and QQ against A9 both all-in preflop. I'm fairly happy that I still have some profit at least.I also started playing some other turbo things (45 man turbo's for example) they take a little longer but not that much. Once I played enough of them i'll be able to compare ROI's.My ROI on 5.2$ turbo's is 17.4% after 167 games.8 tabling 1.1$ 45 man turbo's I'm at 22% ROI after 32 games. pretty even so far considering the longer play time and low buy-in, but i'll need to play more and higher buy-in to be able to compare them for real.I also should try some 1 table turbo's that's more logic to compare to DoN's I guess :PShould give some interesting numbers I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Deftones150 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 5/6 in $1.10 last night to help me pass the time playing a $4.40EDIT: the steelers are vastly superior to the cowboys Link to post Share on other sites
Stiles2004 0 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Did I cash?Button shoves, I call with AJ, and BB has us both covered and calls with AKFlop rolls out Q J 10 and BB wins.... now I had button covered and should finish higher than him, right?I dont remember how much I had in my account to start, so I can't do the math... think support can help? Link to post Share on other sites
isap 0 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I'm certain you cashed (been there myself) but Stars support is tops so I'm also certain they'd confirm if you asked. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Stiles, sharkscope says you cashed. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Ive never been so tilted about these than now.We get to the bubble. Short stack is allin, 3 way pot, me, shorty, and BB. The ****ing DUMB PIECE OF SHIT COCKSUCKING MOTHER ****** big blind, bets me off the winning hand one the river.No biggy though, Im still in like 3rd.Then the next 5 people allin, double up, 3 of them on the river. Then I bubble because AJ cant hold up against T3o.;lfh;d,v;xnc,ghfudldnxcbfjbnjcuigmjdhgkjdhjkghdjkgbfjdzhzklgheurleihuiivlgbglfbhgjklhbvldhbrubgiu Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hey, have you guys played the super turbos on FullTilt at all? I don't play on stars, but I would guess strategy wise, seems pretty similar, though they are 9 players and pay only 3 and not half, but the basic goal is to make it to the money and then hope to get a couple hands and compete for 1st.. Just wondering what levels of these people have played, what type of successes or failures you may have encountered, and basic strategy thoughts... Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs, is that a nipple? boobs boobs boobs, definatley a nipple, boobs boobs boobs...FYP Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hey, have you guys played the super turbos on FullTilt at all? I don't play on stars, but I would guess strategy wise, seems pretty similar, though they are 9 players and pay only 3 and not half, but the basic goal is to make it to the money and then hope to get a couple hands and compete for 1st.. Just wondering what levels of these people have played, what type of successes or failures you may have encountered, and basic strategy thoughts...Uh, no. Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Uh, no.You don't see them both as a practice of basic poker strategies? Gap concept is in play huge, gotta make big short stack laydowns, all the essence of survival. If you play them to win, you are excercising alot of poker skills in a very short tournament(period of time).. I guess I would consider the idea of survival a common between them, accumulation is mostly an afterthought in comparisson to getting in the money... It's on a much accelerated scale,but the strategies based around survival over accumulation seem the most successful and mistake free... I could be way off base, but if you have a comparisson of strategy I would enjoy discussing it with you... like I said I play only on full tilt so I've never played the dbl tournies, but I do play alot of super turbos, so I was just trying to relate the 2 and thought they seemed similar... Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 You don't see them both as a practice of basic poker strategies? Gap concept is in play huge, gotta make big short stack laydowns, all the essence of survival. If you play them to win, you are excercising alot of poker skills in a very short tournament(period of time).. I guess I would consider the idea of survival a common between them, accumulation is mostly an afterthought in comparisson to getting in the money... It's on a much accelerated scale,but the strategies based around survival over accumulation seem the most successful and mistake free... I could be way off base, but if you have a comparisson of strategy I would enjoy discussing it with you... like I said I play only on full tilt so I've never played the dbl tournies, but I do play alot of super turbos, so I was just trying to relate the 2 and thought they seemed similar...omg, no.In DoNs it doesn't matter if you cash with 3xBB, because you receive the same cash as the guy with 30xBB. Not true in a regular SnG whether it is a regular one, turbo or this super turbo...Yes you have to make laydowns when you are very short that you wouldnt make it a normal structure, but the same is true for regular turbosEdit-and you dont play DoNs to win. If you are on the bubble of a DoN, and the short stack shoves for 2xBB or whatever and you have a monster like AA-QQ, AKs...whatever. you FLAT CALL 100% of the time. In a regular SnG you would re-raise to protect your own hand. But in the DoN, when the short stack is all in the bubble, you dont care if the BB sees a free flop with 75s and flops 2 pair to outdraw you as long as the short stack does not win Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Just wanted to add my two cents as someone who has played a lot of the super turbos. The strategy for the two types of tournies is nowhere near the same. I was going to add a bunch of reasons why but it looks like Eddie has taken care of that for me Link to post Share on other sites
litlebullet 0 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 do you all think i need to get in a pot here?PokerStars Game #22928092724: Tournament #127118188, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/12/14 22:05:37 ETTable '127118188 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: MaTpacuk (2460 in chips) Seat 2: feez66 (1480 in chips) Seat 3: Alq_ElmurO (2180 in chips) Seat 4: dagoodgirl (3305 in chips) Seat 5: litlebullet (2820 in chips) Seat 6: DerBenillo (1485 in chips) Seat 8: 49Gmoney49 (1270 in chips) MaTpacuk: posts the ante 10feez66: posts the ante 10Alq_ElmurO: posts the ante 10dagoodgirl: posts the ante 10litlebullet: posts the ante 10DerBenillo: posts the ante 1049Gmoney49: posts the ante 10litlebullet: posts small blind 50DerBenillo: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to litlebullet [Kd Kc]49Gmoney49: folds MaTpacuk: folds feez66: raises 300 to 400Alq_ElmurO: folds dagoodgirl: folds litlebullet: raises 2410 to 2810 and is all-inDerBenillo: folds feez66: calls 1070 and is all-inUncalled bet (1340) returned to litlebullet*** FLOP *** [2s 7s Qh]*** TURN *** [2s 7s Qh] [Tc]*** RIVER *** [2s 7s Qh Tc] [Ah]*** SHOW DOWN ***litlebullet: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings)feez66: shows [Jh Qc] (a pair of Queens)litlebullet collected 3110 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 3110 | Rake 0 Board [2s 7s Qh Tc Ah]Seat 1: MaTpacuk folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: feez66 showed [Jh Qc] and lost with a pair of QueensSeat 3: Alq_ElmurO folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: dagoodgirl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: litlebullet (small blind) showed [Kd Kc] and won (3110) with a pair of KingsSeat 6: DerBenillo (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: 49Gmoney49 folded before Flop (didn't bet)granted I was expecting a 70-30 should I be willing to pad my chip lead or you think i can fold to the money yet?i went ahead and shoved cuz there's no short stacks yet not sure if thats the right way to think of itsecond one-PokerStars Game #22928636414: Tournament #127119406, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/12/14 22:29:02 ETTable '127119406 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: morserya66 (2995 in chips) Seat 3: ricgogo (545 in chips) Seat 6: llouie112 (3630 in chips) Seat 7: rmfin730 (2990 in chips) Seat 8: litlebullet (1075 in chips) Seat 10: titans16 (3765 in chips) morserya66: posts the ante 25ricgogo: posts the ante 25llouie112: posts the ante 25rmfin730: posts the ante 25litlebullet: posts the ante 25titans16: posts the ante 25litlebullet: posts small blind 125titans16: posts big blind 250*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to litlebullet [Kh Ac]morserya66: folds ricgogo: folds llouie112: folds rmfin730: folds litlebullet: raises 800 to 1050 and is all-intitans16: calls 800*** FLOP *** [9s 8d 6h]*** TURN *** [9s 8d 6h] [2h]*** RIVER *** [9s 8d 6h 2h] [Qs]*** SHOW DOWN ***litlebullet: shows [Kh Ac] (high card Ace)titans16: shows [8c Ad] (a pair of Eights)titans16 collected 2250 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2250 | Rake 0 Board [9s 8d 6h 2h Qs]Seat 1: morserya66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: ricgogo folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: llouie112 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: rmfin730 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: litlebullet (small blind) showed [Kh Ac] and lost with high card AceSeat 10: titans16 (big blind) showed [8c Ad] and won (2250) with a pair of Eightsyeah ummm I am pretty sure I have to shove here lol at getting called by a8 but anyway i'm in 5th place, shorty doubles up and we're tied w/ me wishing i had shoved that ak. was i right to shove here? Link to post Share on other sites
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