"double Or Nothing Sngs On Pokerstars"

[Poppy_Hillis 11]

What winning % has everyone else been experiencing in there...and with how many tables going at a time?

I'm about 62%. I haven't played in about 3 weeks though, they're too boring, I've been too busy, and the money isn't close to good enough unless you put in lots of hours or lots of tables. I was only playing 4 at a time.

[ah2388 0]

you guys are pretty spot on with the overall strat in theseBG, i think youre putting a bit to much into ending the tournament. I feel like protecting your stack is far more important than calling it off crushed a ton just to end the tournamento and hai DN

[Poppy_Hillis 11]

you guys are pretty spot on with the overall strat in theseBG, i think youre putting a bit to much into ending the tournament. I feel like protecting your stack is far more important than calling it off crushed a ton just to end the tournamento and hai DN

Not if the shortstack doubling up makes you the new shortstack and also heading into the blinds late in the tournament. However, I agree with you in regards to the second hand he posted.

[Jariso13 1]

I'm about 62%. I haven't played in about 3 weeks though, they're too boring, I've been too busy, and the money isn't close to good enough unless you put in lots of hours or lots of tables. I was only playing 4 at a time.

Agreed 100%...I mean ive done alright 14 tabling but doing so isnt fun its just mechanical and there is very little joy in winning these things...

[jeff_536 3]

okay, i'm gonna start playing more of these. grind away for now at the low level ones. I'm pretty sure i can hit 60% on a regular basis.

[Balloon guy 158]

Is there anyway without pokertracker etc to know your ROI on these?

[Balloon guy 158]

PokerStars Game #22568248448: Tournament #124491321, $10.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/12/02 18:06:32 ETTable '124491321 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: tercet (1195 in chips) Seat 2: MarkMylbech (1465 in chips) Seat 3: switchpro64 (2580 in chips) Seat 4: SABKAR (1045 in chips) Seat 5: Sylv3rSurf3r (1795 in chips) Seat 6: nickatnite55 (2415 in chips) Seat 7: carrotsnake (2000 in chips) Seat 10: PTBalloon (2505 in chips) tercet: posts the ante 15MarkMylbech: posts the ante 15switchpro64: posts the ante 15SABKAR: posts the ante 15Sylv3rSurf3r: posts the ante 15nickatnite55: posts the ante 15carrotsnake: posts the ante 15PTBalloon: posts the ante 15MarkMylbech: posts small blind 75switchpro64: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to PTBalloon [Jh Jd]SABKAR: folds Sylv3rSurf3r: folds nickatnite55: folds carrotsnake: raises 1835 to 1985 and is all-inPTBalloon: ?????

[jeff_536 3]

PokerStars Game #22568248448: Tournament #124491321, $10.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/12/02 18:06:32 ETTable '124491321 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: tercet (1195 in chips) Seat 2: MarkMylbech (1465 in chips) Seat 3: switchpro64 (2580 in chips) Seat 4: SABKAR (1045 in chips) Seat 5: Sylv3rSurf3r (1795 in chips) Seat 6: nickatnite55 (2415 in chips) Seat 7: carrotsnake (2000 in chips) Seat 10: PTBalloon (2505 in chips) tercet: posts the ante 15MarkMylbech: posts the ante 15switchpro64: posts the ante 15SABKAR: posts the ante 15Sylv3rSurf3r: posts the ante 15nickatnite55: posts the ante 15carrotsnake: posts the ante 15PTBalloon: posts the ante 15MarkMylbech: posts small blind 75switchpro64: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to PTBalloon [Jh Jd]SABKAR: folds Sylv3rSurf3r: folds nickatnite55: folds carrotsnake: raises 1835 to 1985 and is all-inPTBalloon: ?????

I think this completely depends on how you feel about racing. I seriously can't put him on AA, KK or QQ, because even the most donkolicious player tries to get some value out of those. So if you eliminate those hands, you're 50-50 against any of his big aces and much better than that vs. a medium A or a mid pair. honestly, this feels like 99 or TT, trying to pick up a pot and being okay if AK calls.If you win, you can almost sit out. If you lose, you still have 500.I guess I'm leaning towards a call, unless you've seen something from this guy that specifically suggests he's got a higher pair than yours.

[Balloon guy 158]

I think this completely depends on how you feel about racing. I seriously can't put him on AA, KK or QQ, because even the most donkolicious player tries to get some value out of those. So if you eliminate those hands, you're 50-50 against any of his big aces and much better than that vs. a medium A or a mid pair. honestly, this feels like 99 or TT, trying to pick up a pot and being okay if AK calls.If you win, you can almost sit out. If you lose, you still have 500.I guess I'm leaning towards a call, unless you've seen something from this guy that specifically suggests he's got a higher pair than yours.

My thinking as well, but with mot of the table yet to act I'm not confident about putting in most of my stack with the dreaded jacks

[hot4patrik 0]

how soft are the 1.10 ones?

[jeff_536 3]

My thinking as well, but with mot of the table yet to act I'm not confident about putting in most of my stack with the dreaded jacks

well, you're on the button, so there's only the blinds. And if you call, they should tighten up even more.

[jeff_536 3]

how soft are the 1.10 ones?

very. hope that helps.be patient and you'll do fine.

[jcashx36x 0]

very. hope that helps.be patient and you'll do fine.

[hot4patrik 0]

thanks jeff and jcash. i have a little bit of money online and want to make it grow.

[Weandago 0]

Is there anyway without pokertracker etc to know your ROI on these?

No idea how you can track your winning % if you don't do it manually or with a tracker.Once you know your winning % it's easy.for tubro's ROI = (%-52)/52*100 ..... except the 1.1 turbo's that's (%-55)/55*100)for non-turbo's ROI = (%-54)/54*100So for tubro's60% winning = ROI of 15.3%65% would be 25%70% would be 34.6%55% is only 5.7%

[Weandago 0]

Dealt to PTBalloon [Jh Jd]SABKAR: folds Sylv3rSurf3r: folds nickatnite55: folds carrotsnake: raises 1835 to 1985 and is all-inPTBalloon: ?????

Most of the time when I've seen someone do that early in these SNG's they had AK. Only if i've seen them do some other stupid things earlier I would also give them credit for doing it with a middle to low pair.So to someone who doesn't seem like a complete idiot I would fold as your stack is big enough now that you don't want to risk a coinflip to cripple you so badly now.I fold a lot of hands in these games, maybe too much. I take more risks with my pushes in these games than with my calls.

[jeff_536 3]

Just played the weirdest one ever.I won a couple of small pots early to get it up to 1900, but watched these two maniacs take out the necessary five guys. I just kept folding.

[Poppy_Hillis 11]

For me that's a fold BG. Honestly I only call with AA or KK there, you have too many chips.

[Balloon guy 158]

For me that's a fold BG. Honestly I only call with AA or KK there, you have too many chips.

I did foldThe button called with 99, raiser had 88 Jacks would have held up and eleminated two players, but I went on to cash so I like my fold there

[jeff_536 3]

I did foldThe button called with 99, raiser had 88 Jacks would have held up and eleminated two players, but I went on to cash so I like my fold there

good read, me.

[Weandago 0]

I normally 4 table 5.2$ turbo's and was going to continue to do that untill I felt ready to start doing 10.4$ turbo's... however with reading this thread i changed my mind and i'm first going to try to play a higher number at one time.Today 5 tabling I went 7 wins in 10 games. Good start :)I made one misclick because of it though, but that turned out wonderful. I min-raised by accident with T2... got 10 high flop and 10 turn.... can't complain

[litlebullet 0]

I just played like 10 of them today first DoN's ever they were pretty easy for the most part.on my last one so we'll see if i go -1 buyin or +1 buyin oh exciting times +1 buyin for today lol

[jeff_536 3]

People are stupid. I was just playing in one and we were down to 6-handed. One guy had been sitting out for most of the way, and was on the button with $95. If people had just folded, he would have been eliminated in a couple hands.Instead two guys, with air, get it all in on the flop.DOH, but thanks.

[litlebullet 0]

People are stupid. I was just playing in one and we were down to 6-handed. One guy had been sitting out for most of the way, and was on the button with $95. If people had just folded, he would have been eliminated in a couple hands.Instead two guys, with air, get it all in on the flop.DOH, but thanks.

yep you got that right DoNs really are the litmus test of poker retardedness.

[Sens-Eh 0]

I fold every hand BG has talked about....Seriously, normal "poker logic" does not apply. I think it is far more important to preserve your own chips then to try and take anyone out - even on the bubble. With only the exceptions of having a huge chip stack or a seriously small one I don't get involved. Enough guys make mistakes in these that your chances of lasting to the final 5 are good even if you are one of the shorter stacks - so long as you have enough chips that if you push on someone they will feel a hurt if they lose...Ultra tight -- fold everything play for the first 4 or 5 levels leaves you a little short but with only 7 players left(so you have only a bit less then a 5/7 chance of making the money) - - at that point you have to start playing...A few pushes at this point gives you more then starting chips (especially since everyone has watched you fold for 22 minutes or something - they will show respect the first few times)...some other guy loses a race, and then you have a 5/6 chance of making the money - even if you are the second lowest chip stack at that point you are going to make it in often enough that your investment will pay a decent ROI...In some ways as some of the posters have mentioned it is ultra boring - but because the decision making process is so backwards bizzaro it can also be entertaining at times (as a diversion anyhow - I agree with the poster who said - don't play these as a way to learn typical tournament play!)