AceSpades11 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Tonight i participated in the monte carlo sattelite for $650 buy in. Only 1 seat was given to a field of 53 players. In addition top 25 got there money back ($650).I came 2nd and had a 102,000 chips to the others person approximate 30,000. I blew the lead, I blew the tournament and this is the worst feeling of my life. I actualyl went outside and made myself puke i feel so bad. sorry for sharing this with ya if it's annoying but this is the saddest day of my poker career, $16500 down the drain and I've only my self to blame. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 ROFL!!I can't belive you puked...hahahahaha. Link to post Share on other sites
JMHeel 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Sorry to hear man. Almost seems like 2nd place is worst than busting out first but remember:you beat out that many players to put yourself in a great position to win. It's def. not over with even with a huge chip advantage going for ya. One double up and that guy was probably in great shape. Better luck next timeJMheel Link to post Share on other sites
ClownfishX 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 If it makes you feel any better, the guy who beat you is the second best ranked player on pokerstars, and in third Humberto Brenes' brother. I've seen a guy with twice as many chips as everyone in a wsop satellite with 11 remaining and 10 getting seats blow it. Just thought I'd add that, although I know it probably doesn't help ease the pain. Link to post Share on other sites
Cygnus 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 How much actual cash did you lose?Oh yeah...thats right. None.Gee, I feel sorry for you too. :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
MattH 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Horrid feeling, been there done that.Perk up, you got 2nd out of 53... it really does account for something. Link to post Share on other sites
AceSpades11 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 ROFL!!I can't belive you puked...hahahahaha.I kinda made myself puke, I was trying to cry then i just basically thought... well I guess I'll just puke and surprisingly it came easy. Throwing my shovel into the tree was the initial reaction though Link to post Share on other sites
AceSpades11 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 If it makes you feel any better, the guy who beat you is the second best ranked player on pokerstars, and in third Humberto Brenes' brother. I've seen a guy with twice as many chips as everyone in a wsop satellite with 11 remaining and 10 getting seats blow it. Just thought I'd add that, although I know it probably doesn't help ease the pain.I talked to him after and he mentioned that he won the seat for his brother cause he had already won a seat. I guess the fairy tale story of me a 19 year old winning it and going to monte carlo is as ficticious as any fairy tale can be. I made two incredibly stupid plays and it cost me the tournament, I got outplayed and beaten by what is a more experienced and better poker player. This is not going to be easy to shake off Link to post Share on other sites
360f1 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 What was the key hand that lost it for you? Did you get outdrawn or outplayed? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 ROFL!!I can't belive you puked...hahahahaha.I kinda made myself puke, I was trying to cry then i just basically thought... well I guess I'll just puke and surprisingly it came easy. Throwing my shovel into the tree was the initial reaction thoughLOL...I can imagine you losing a big tourney and breaking down in the front yard in chunky sobs...lmao. I'm sorry if I sound rude....I know it must have sucked to lose that tournament, but it's just too funny. Never ever have I gotten so down that I wanted to puke! lmao...ahhhh. Link to post Share on other sites
naugie 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Would it be easier to shake it off if you played perfectly and still lost? If I knew I made a mistake, then I would look to the future and play better then. You have plenty of time and plenty of tournaments to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
AceSpades11 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 What was the key hand that lost it for you? Did you get outdrawn or outplayed?I made two plays that I consider so stupid I don't even wanna share, but I will anyways. I hope you guys can learn something from this cause I sure did but I learnt it the hard way. I'm actually writing about this hand in a local newsletter here in canada. Here is my version first draft.(b)BADLY PLAYED HAND NUMBER ONE(/B)With the blinds at 400/800 and the chip count at around 95,000 to 40,000 in my favour I picked up A/Q. The guy had been raising often from the big blind when I limped in from the botton hoping for him to raise me trying to steal the pot. This was mistake number (b)ONE(/B). Just stupid stupid, A/Q is not a good enough hand to be slowplayed and I should of pushd him out right away. The flop came 2/6/Q with 2 hearts. I bet out 1000 into the 1600 chip pot. An amount I had used often to steal the pot and had been successful in doing so numerous times in a row. He almost immediately re-raised me and made it 4000 to go. Now I went in the think tank as I was almost certain I had him beat with my A/Q.. I thought what he possibly could have to beat me. I came to the conclusion that he was probably pissed at me making those 1000 pot steals and had a mediocre hand or was on a complete bluff trying to not be pushed around and win the pot right there. I was so certain of this I didn't do the obvious, which would be to make a large re raise. I actually do not fault what I did next however many people will probably disagree with me. Instead of raising I just called with A/Q hoping he was bluffing and would continue to bluff away his stack on the turn. At the same time if he did have Q/lower kicker or what not I might get him to go all in on the turn and win the tournament outright. Now the only reason I did this is because I had position, had I been in the big blind I would of re raised but I figured call here, let him raise the turn then go all in. Seemed like a decent plan right?Well the turn brought a VERY SCARY card, a jack of hearts. Making the board 2/6/Q/J with 3 hearts. He then bet out another 3000 which seemed odd to me. I just really had a feeling he was making a scared bet and didn't have the flush. The fact that he bet less then his original raise told me he hated the heart more then I did and was throwing me out a feeler bet. I did however hit the think tank again and decided if he DIDN'T have the hearts... what did he have? I came to the conclusion he had Q/lower kicker and in the same position as me, scared of that heart or even on a pair of 6's or 2's.. who knows right... I mean I foolishly let him see a free flop he could have ANYTHING. After this I immediately re raised $15,000 figuring maybe he had 1 heart and I didn't want him to catch the river. Now this is how I see my re raise. I really don't think it was a BAD play, but at the same time I don't think it was a good play. I was justified in raising but maybe I should of been more scared of the flush, however at the same time it IS heads up and I found it highly unlikely he would raise with a draw on the flop cause he'd be scared I'd go all in and make him fold a nice draw. Both a call or raise I think were decent plays. Okay, anyways, after I raised $15,000 he JUST CALLED. Leaving him with 19.000 chips. This I found EXTREMELY odd, and now i went into stupid mode. He had 19,500 chips left and the pot was about 39,000... the river drew a blank and he checked it to me. Mistake number (b)TWO(/B) the mistake I made right here might have cost me the tournament as it threw all the momentum in his favour. I bet out ANOTHER $15,000. Don't ask me why... I just made a brain dead move, an amateur move that showed my youth like a sore thumb. Anyone knows the correct move here would be to check, but I for some reason thought I had him beat and made this ridiculous bet. Now he hit the think tank HARD and said in chat so you got the flush eh? I did not respond which was foolish as I should of said my secret weapon words to get someone to fold a hand online. I however foolishly thought I had him beat and said nothing.. after an almost exhausted time bank he made the call and showed 2/6 and won the hand with two pair, taking down the turning point hand of the turnament and the chip lead. I then later lost the rest of my stack on a play equally or if not worse then the way I played this hand.However one mistake is all it takes in poker and mistake number one lead to mistake number two. ANY raise pre flop would of captured me a nice blind and I would probably be awake at this late hour with jubilance instead of awake with disgust and discrace. Link to post Share on other sites
AceSpades11 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 ROFL!!I can't belive you puked...hahahahaha.I kinda made myself puke, I was trying to cry then i just basically thought... well I guess I'll just puke and surprisingly it came easy. Throwing my shovel into the tree was the initial reaction thoughLOL...I can imagine you losing a big tourney and breaking down in the front yard in chunky sobs...lmao. I'm sorry if I sound rude....I know it must have sucked to lose that tournament, but it's just too funny. Never ever have I gotten so down that I wanted to puke! lmao...ahhhh.I don't see what's so funny about this I didn't actually cry i just felt so shitty I wanted to do something to make it better and throwing the snow shovel into the tree didn't help enough :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
AceSpades11 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 What was the key hand that lost it for you? Did you get outdrawn or outplayed?As ashamed as I am to say this as I rarely have to..... i got outplayed Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 It's funny because you actually care. No offense, but it's just a game..."There's allways next year boys and girls." Link to post Share on other sites
l0nd0n3 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 It's funny because you actually care. No offense, but it's just a game..."There's allways next year boys and girls."just a game? are you dumb? people want to make it a living. And be better at playing. You don't care if you get second or first? Why are you here then? Link to post Share on other sites
AnnChristiansen 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 "Instead of raising I just called with A/Q hoping he was bluffing and would continue to bluff away his stack on the turn. "Do you think slowplaying is a good idea when you have a significant chip lead?I'm a newbie and would never do it. Is this a standard play for you or were you just spacing out? I might slowplay if I was the baby stack tho. Link to post Share on other sites
Mandelbrot 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Tough beat. Do what you can to learn from it and move on. I once came in 3rd in a field of over 1000 players in a payout that went to the top 2 and nothing to 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites
BPV 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I feel like shit now too... I started the day with 80 dollars in my pokerstars account... I played in 4 10 dollar tourneys and was able to cash in every single one of them... I was up to about 120 dollars now... And I thought I was invincible... had some lunch, a shower, started playing again.... Lost a tourney, lost another... figured id go to a cash game and make some quick cash... flopped my set, bet the whole way through, someone called me to the river, only to make the nut straight with a queen on the river.. lost 15 dollars on that hand.. figured it was just the fish on the 1/2 tables.. went to a .50/1.00 NL table.. some ******* kept raising like 10 dollars pre-flop... I folded an AQs to him, only to find out (someone else called) that i would have won a 79 dollar pot... so i got mad, and next time he raised 12 dollars i called with a AKs, completely missed the flop (where he raised 15 pre-flop) and he bet 30 dollars... so i had to fold.. to sum it all up.. i am now at 54 dollars.. I learned my lesson, im sticking to tourneys from now on... but i still feel like.... s hit Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Tonight i participated in the monte carlo sattelite for $650 buy in. Only 1 seat was given to a field of 53 players. In addition top 25 got there money back ($650).I came 2nd and had a 102,000 chips to the others person approximate 30,000. I blew the lead, I blew the tournament and this is the worst feeling of my life. I actualyl went outside and made myself puke i feel so bad.sorry for sharing this with ya if it's annoying but this is the saddest day of my poker career, $16500 down the drain and I've only my self to blame.You lost a 4 to 1 chip lead heads up?You suck.Seriously, get over it. It's one tournamnet. 16 grand isn't the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites
Duff_Man 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 You suckDo you get off on insulting every person that apparantly isn't as great a poker player as you are? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Do you get off on insulting every person that apparantly isn't as great a poker player as you are?It was a joke.Hence the "seriously," in the next sentance.Learn to read. Link to post Share on other sites
smurdogg 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 The other day i lost after having a 4 to 1 chip lead to a girl who (while heads up) folded top 2 pair on the flop to my all in. Basically, I lost to a girl who learned the game the day before. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 The other day i lost after having a 4 to 1 chip lead to a girl who (while heads up) folded top 2 pair on the flop to my all in. Basically, I lost to a girl who learned the game the day beforeYou suck too.Really though, a 4 to 1 chip lead heads up isn't a big thing. If you lose with a 100 to 1 chip lead you might have a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
murphyz 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Reverse the situation. You're standing at 2nd, the guy in first has a huge chip lead - you hit a great flop with a bad hand. Lower 2 pair. The guy makes a very small bet, you raise 4 times that amount. Guy in 1st calls*.A jack comes on the turn, to which you put out a feeler. You now have the lower 2 pairs with 2 overcards that are often played. He hits you with a re-raise. So...what do you put him on? Showed a little weakness after the flop came and now hits his J. JJ is very very unlikely, as is such a raise if hoping for a flush or straight on the river. Figure he probably has AJ - maybe a flush draw in there.If he is on AJ - he's beaten with your 2 pair.Rag on the river. 2 low pair in hand, with 2 overcards and a strong bet...let's find out if his hand improved. Check.$15k - again. The rag obviously did nothing to improve and this guy thinks his AJ is good. With so much in the pot - you call it with your 2 pair. *You state yourself here that you should have re-raised.If you play from his position you play it well. His experience and your sign of weakness on the flop, I think, are the only things working against you. You'll play this hand over and over to yourself and how you should have done it differently - but try not to. You were beat on the flop...you missed the chance to attempt to take the pot with a re-raise. Next time, in the same position, you'll do it differently.Eventually the positions will be reversed. You'll get to use your experience against an opponent who shows weakness...and he'll be beating himself up over the one hand that you used to swing a tournament into your favour. Congratulations on your 2nd place. It was well earned. You got your money back, you got some experience. Use them both well in your next tournament.Good luckMxx Link to post Share on other sites
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