A Bob Costas Quote I love

[semperfi 0]

I am so sick of the antics at the televised tourneys. It's great to watch the old hands, (and a few new ones) who know how to win a big pot, or take a bad beat with class. Every installment of the 2004 WSOP main event, I was waiting for someone to take out that screaming European kid with the acne. It was excruciating to watch him, and I could not believe he made it so far, ensuring we all had to watch him do whatever it was he was doing, god knows how many times. Josh Arieh got on my last nerve also. You would think he had never been against a short stack in a NLH tourney the way he berated anyone who pushed in with a small pair. Daniel, you on the other hand have grown on me, the more I have seen you on TV. At first I was skeptical, but you one me over. Friendly, funny and polite. You are now my favorite player to watch. Just wish you would lose the hockey jerseys, but we have to cut you Canucks some slack I guess.

[JTPHS 0]

Eeeaaasy, eaasssy on the hockey jersey! :evil:

[currierr 0]

That's the way ESPN covers all sports. Score a touchdown and pick up a cell phone you will be all over the highlights on ESPN. Score a touchdown and simply hand the ball to the ref and that highlight will never be shown. Fox sports does such a great job covering the WPT. It's just poker with great announcers. I like seeing everyones hand right away and then seeing who plays what hands.

i agree completely. However, can you believe that it is FOX that is actually showing the good hands and not the bafoonery? I can't. Fox has the reputation, especially with it's news coverage to be completly over the top leading you to question the truthfullness of anything they put on the news.

[mx957 0]

You can have a flair....style....and still be very profesional and respectful. I to have grown to like Daniel's style. He is very aggressive and definetly a person to be feared at the table but he's not and "IN YOUR FACE" type. Another person I love to watch is Marcel Luske. He can sing karakoe and play cards at the same time. His ability to read other people is awesome as well. The hand in th WSPO where he folds to the person next to him and says "Your Kings are good". The person responds "You mean my Queen's?" and Marcel responds "No, you had Kings." and sure enough he did have Kings. That kind of a respectful banter would be enough to totally intimidate me! If this guy can see through me this well, then man I must be doing something totally wrong. Respect is earned, It's not something you receive for just showing up and thinking you're the best. Josh, Matasow, Anderson all need to look at their image and decide for themselves is they really deserve the respect (or lack of it!!!!) they receive because of their play or their antics.

[iveyfan30 0]

Josh Arieh is one player who you will not see act like that again, he publicly apologized for it right afterwords and I truly think he meant it, I like the way he plays and I think he's a good player, If he gets into any more televised events watch for a completely different Josh Arieh.

I've got to agree with this one. I've heard from several pro's that he's not really a bad guy. One who pops to mind is Paul Phillips, he says he's played with him enough to know that it was just bad editing. And if you want some ammo for ESPN's editing issues, Paul is the guy to ask about that one too. Definitely has a bit of a bone to pick about that whole thing. I didn't like Arieh at all after I saw the show either, but after hearing from some first hand account, I've gone to undecided now. I'm just going to have to wait and see what happens in the future from him.

if arieh didnt say and do the things we all saw, there wouldnt be any tape to edit....how is bad editing responsible for arieh mocking ppl when they call him??or for walking around the poker room like a lunatic saying "was there ever a doubt" editing , i think not...he did those things and thats what we saw...why isnt daniel or doyle crying about bad editing? i agree espn is shady in their handling of this thing of ours<poker>, but if he didnt act out, espn wouldnt have had any footage to "misedit"...arieh is embarrased by the way ppl are looking at him more than hes embarrased by what he did...he realized ppl in the poker worls dont wanna see that crap..if we did wed stick to watchin the n.b.a.....

[Don Beach 0]

instead of adding my 2 cents about the players who have shown bad attitudes (okay, just one--fishman doing the nestea plunge on the table after winning his bracelet while the other guy just sat patiently to shake his hand--that drove me nuts...okay back to my point), i want to say how awesome it is that there ARE players like daniel who win and lose with grace and i can only hope that young players pay attention to that (me being one of them). because it is a form of gambling, poker is already unfairly labeled as something that is a bit shady or whatever and to have class acts like daniel and john juanda as two of the biggest stars in the game will do wonders to create broader respect and understanding for the game. there are so many more humble players as well, they're just the first two that come to mind. dan harrington has always impressed me. his style sure ain't sexy, but he is always such a class act and i love to see that. gus hansen also comes to mind. he's so fun to watch and so dynamic without ever being disrespectful to another player.

[rog 0]

When I watched Arieh, I thought he came across like a punk, and I wanted nothing more than to see him lose. I realize we were seeing the "worst of Josh Arieh" highlite real, but he still did those things. If you act like an ass in front of a TV camera, you shouldn't be surprised if the whole world starts thinking you're an ass. I know people who thought he came across as a co cky young star with the goods to back up his attitude. I think people who see themselves this way will identify with him, and the more we see this stuff on TV, the more you'll see it everywhere else in poker.If people need antics to be interested in poker, maybe they should be watching wrestling instead. Sure, the freak show will hold your attention for a few seconds, but is that what you tuned in to watch? I watch to see Daniel turn 10-7 off-suit into a winning hand. I watch to see Hansen's mental gears churning before laying down a straight. But I know the game a little bit, and I appreciate the skill. Joe public doesn't understand what he's seeing, so a freak show is what it takes to hold his attention. Maybe that's the price we have to pay to see more poker on TV.

[keith crime 8]

Forget sportsmanship for a secondAs a viewer - i love having a few cocky loud bastards around - it makes it interesting - both when they win and when they loseThe loudmouth either delivers and basks in success or looks ten times as bad afterwardWho was more fun then Muhammud Ali?Who wants to watch a bunch of old women playing bridge?There was nothing better than seeing Jim MacMahon having fun and taunting Pete Rozelle when he was healthy. As long as it's done with a sense of fun like Phil Laak I enjoy itThe guys that are annoying are the ones that show true anger when they get sucked out on. If they're your chips you should be able to make any call you feel like making no matter how theoretically stupid. Nevertheless, I'd exclude the jumping up and down and screaming after the win - it's boring and shoving someone's face in a mistake after a win. Before the hands been decided though - I love a little color

[Dan74 0]

What was that one thing Arieh said to Williams after he got knocked out? Oh yeah I remember now..If I ever see him on t.v. again it will be too soon.I remember his 'apology' too. It was awefully backhanded if you ask me.Raymer, on the other hand, acted like a winner should. Just glad Arieh didn't win it.

[ariston 0]

I have only just joined this forum and I have found this topic quite strange in its timing. I have just returned from the caribbean poker classic and this type of behaviour was common, even from the brits. I have written an article on this behaviour and my response to it (if everyone spoke up the same way maybe the idiots would stop). It is on thehendonmob.com forum under the members thread at the moment (you need to register- no annonamous slating then) tiltled "whooping and hollering". This isn't meant to be spam, I think I managed to do what a lot of players wished they had done when faced with a similar situation.Ariston

[gavingriffin 0]

well, as long as I'm making my first post on these forums, it might as well be in reply to a complimentary post about myself :wink: A couple things:1. I understand that the antics get the ratings, but I'm just not that type of person. I would be embarrassed to watch myself on TV acting like a fool, talking trash, etc. I would be even more embarrassed to know my mom was watching me act that way, therefore, I don't do it. I was reluctant to put the money over my head when they asked me to lol.2. On Josh... he looked terrible @ the WSOP this year and I feel bad for him b/c he is a genuinely nice guy from all of the interactions I've had with him.As always, I appreciate that Daniel is very complimentary towards me. I'm happy to have joined these forums and you guys will probably be seeing alot of me in the future around here!Gavin Griffin

[JaysonWeber 0]

Well thank you Gavin, Nice to have some feedback from the people he's mentioning, Hope you stay active man!

[dakinehaole 0]

Daniel, I would have to add to that group Pham Le...he was as cool as it gets...true professional. What is your take on the guys that get up from the table as you are trying to get a read...e.g. Umberto at the Bellagio...you even made a comment as he did it.Q: Do you think anyone will ever make it mandatory that players remain seated during these situations?

[Randor 0]

OK,My 2 centsI personally do not mind the Mike Matusow's and Phil Helmuth's of the world. I personally do not trash talk, but they do have a place in the game i feel. Please remember folks, this game is just now coming out of the dark smoke filled rooms into the mainstream. please do not try to put a "Bowling" stigma on this awsome game. Lets have some color, some pizzaz, Daniel, i respect your thoughts on the trash talking, as well as the many others, but i feel as though it is a lift to the sport and if you do not want to trash talk, ok great, but lets not take it away from the game because you feel as though "you would be embarrised if it were you". Just be happy that the next morning you can wake up and say "Whew, glad that wasnt me!!" but when someone trash talks, wether it is at the WSOP or a local ring game, i think it gives flavor to the game.BTW this is my first post.Great Site Daniel and i truly love watching you play, Maybe some day ill see you at a Leafs/Sabres game. lol

[card79 0]

Ok my background is football not poker wise, but I have to tell you poker truly fills that void. I think back to some great football quotes to deal with this situation. Lou Holtz always told his players at Notre Dame. Do not celebrate after scoring. We don't want to look like amateurs that are amazed that we finally did it. Act like you have done it many times and will do it many more times. So, translated to poker I would say act like you have won a hand before. My second thought was I always had a coach tell me why draw attention to yourself from your oposition if they forget your there you will catch them when they least expect it. If you make them mad they will always be watching you and waititng to take you out.Just a few thoughts. Daniel I thought you were right on the Money please continue to act with class and continue to let them know youhave been there before.Andy

[Chipgirl 0]

Hi, first post. I'm sure everyone has seen the commercials for the new show on ESPN for "Tilt". Notice the guy lunging across the poker table during the game? That's not what the poker world needs. I'm really unhappy that that is even in the ad. Bad behavior seen as entertaining.ESPN again. Your comments? Gayle

[adamkadmon 0]

Who cares. I liked what the shamrock guy had to say. It seems to me that it would really suck if everyone at the table always acted like a perfect gentleman,. how boring. I think poker kinda emulates life and there are lots of jackasses out there but i still go on, trying not to feel as if the sky is falling just because there are people who might just be having a bad day, I mean a little compassion and empathy are sometimes called for. Who cares and i'm glad the screaming kid at the series got a little coverage, it was interesting.I rememember the place I first started playing at in the 80's. I recall handfulls of chips being thrown at the wall after a bad beat and never getting picked up, slow p[laying the nuts on the flop, then raising on the river only to find a guy reaching across the table to jerk me around by my tie and the world war two ace pilot randy telling me "kid, I've played all around the world and your the best I've ever seen". My point is while all these events seemed a bit out of place at the time only now do I look back at those times with a smile, I wopuldn't have changed a thing even if I was capable. Overall, yes I like the way thiungs are headed for poker but I will always remember all the jackasses with fondness.

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[CrAcKeDaCeS 0]

I think this topic directly relates to a nother post regarding the size and popularity of upcoming WSOP events. Not only will we now have to deal with the people who want to test their skill and luck (which I'm all for), but along with that will come the minority of people who are hoping to get on TV and really ham it up. After watching the many gratuitous re runs of the WSOP, I think I was more annoyed by Mattias Andersen than anyone else-he seemed to be summoning the poker gods on every hand. That being said, I think you have to cut everyone a little slack. Not only are they unaccustomed to being in front of TV cameras, and lights--it's also not every day you get to play for a chance at a 7 figure pay day. These people have been looking at cards for 12 hours a day for the last 5 days....they probably have some pent up energy. Now, THAT being said...it was nice to watch guys like Gavin, and Shawn Rice, and David Williams, and the old guard like TJ and Dan Harrington--I guess when it comes down to it, it's just 2 different styles of player.I talk too much.

[iveyfan30 0]

in my opinion, if you need a little "something extra" to keep you intrested in poker i.e loudmouths running around the poker room looking for ppl to give high fives to... then you need to be watching sports more codusive to that level...pro wrestling,nascaar,monster truck pulls...leave the poker to ppl that walk upright and dont drag their knuckles

[GoBucksIndy 0]

Several observations of the behavior Daniel is speaking of:Arieh: Acted like an ass and was portrayed as one. Only those who know him personally can attest to what type of person he is. He can easily fix his reputation by acting differently next time he is in the spotlight.Mattias Anderson: I know he didn't mean any harm with his yelling, but I found it one of the most annoying things I've seen. You already beat the guy, so just shut up already. Talk about kicking someone while they are down. And then after screaming, he goes over to shake their hand. I'm shocked no one had a few choice words with him at that point. I love seeing people excited, but that just crossed the line.Phil Hellmuth: Definately annoying, but also very entertaining.The Mouth: I find this guy to be hilarious. He is the classic headcase. He reminds me of Jana Novotna at Wimbledon.

[Meotch08 0]

i dont dislike Mattias Anderson because of how he acted.. i just dislike him 'cause he eliminated Jesus :cry: lol no really though i actaully like Mattias. but i DO agree that he should cut back on the screaming, but he;'s young and happy, and we all get emotional sometimes.

[merzie 0]

i agree w/ everybody that acting out at the table is uncalled for and b/s. but in espn's defence they are showing the wsop to a world people who never knew about no-limit poker until they say the shows. ilike the way they show the wsop because it helps the game grow.if all they showed was a bunch of people sitting around chit-chating and playing poker it would not get any ratings, except from us sick puppy's who watch the wsop coverage like it is a class at college. i for one have earned a lot o money from people who never have played a day in a brick and morter casino and will dump $500 dollars in one hour. i am into poker because i love it and i want to make money. i don't feel sorry for these people who cash in and i have half of his bankroll and the other half is in somebody elses stack.

[dna4ever 2]

That Bob Costas guy is something else

[SweetDaddyFreak 0]

That Bob Costas guy is something else

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