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So McCain makes a rasict comment ad you pull out the but Obama went to a Church and the Rev blah blah blah. The fact is articles like this distort Rev Wrights sermons and purposely leave out much information that shows the sermons to be more anti-government then anything else. I find it sad that you can't acknowledge the ignorance of McCains comment without making it out to be about Obama.
I find it sad that that you have no problem painting McCain as a racist but fail to shine a light on Obama and his racist issuesSweet: Our soon to be President's Pastor of 20 yrs is anti government...
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You clearly dont get it....The Wright example simply shows you that you cant Get BHO to admit anything... He just denies denies denies and you guys lap it up...You would have to have to be very naive to think he never heard or didnt hear those things...McCain when confronted admits it and tries to give context... but doesnt denyYou cant pin Obama down on anything
The Wright example just shows how handy it is to take things out of context in order to make them fit your arguement. When the soundbytes of Wright hit the news the Obama campaign said that although he didn't agree with everything Wright said he would not denounce him as the clips being played were being taken out of context. (and again he did denounce Wright when Wright came out swinging about Hillary). What exactly was he to have admited here?How you could find away to try to ignore McCains comment and turn this thread into another bash Obama thread is incredible.
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The Wright example just shows how handy it is to take things out of context in order to make them fit your arguement. When the soundbytes of Wright hit the news the Obama campaign said that although he didn't agree with everything Wright said he would not denounce him as the clips being played were being taken out of context. (and again he did denounce Wright when Wright came out swinging about Hillary). What exactly was he to have admited here?How you could find away to try to ignore McCains comment and turn this thread into another bash Obama thread is incredible.
How many times in this thread have I said McCain's comments were in excusable...Are you really buying he could sit in those pews for 20 years an not hear those racists spews from Wright..
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I find it sad that that you have no problem painting McCain as a racist but fail to shine a light on Obama and his racist issuesSweet: Our soon to be President's Pastor of 20 yrs is anti government...
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I find it sad that that you have no problem painting McCain as a racist but fail to shine a light on Obama and his racist issuesSweet: Our soon to be President's Pastor of 20 yrs is anti government...
How did I paint him as a racist? I acknowledged he made a comment that is all. He made a racist comment that kind of does some painting on its own. Obama knowing someone who's made what you deem "racist" comments is exactly the same as McCain saying something racist himself. Between this thread and the citizenship thread you show an incredible inability to take look at the situation rationally.
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Obama knowing someone who's made what you deem "racist" comments is exactly the same as McCain saying something racist himself.
you are complicit in the act if you do so for 20 years...What if McCain went to a KKK meetings for 20 yrs but said: I never heard them make those comments"Would you find that incredulous?
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You clearly dont get it....The Wright example simply shows you that you cant Get BHO to admit anything... He just denies denies denies and you guys lap it up...You would have to have to be very naive to think he never heard or didnt hear those things...McCain when confronted admits it and tries to give context... but doesnt denyYou cant pin Obama down on anything
Saying something and hearing something aren't the same thing. You might just as well say that 'I see what I eat' is the same as 'I eat what I see!'
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How many times in this thread have I said McCain's comments were in excusable...Are you really buying he could sit in those pews for 20 years an not hear those racists spews from Wright..
Saying McCains comments were in excusable in three sentences before pasting articles regarding Obama's Rev is clearly looking at it rationally. Again picking and choosing words from a sermon and ignoring the message doesn't make it racist.I hate the word Gooks and the word niggers.See what I did there? Guess I'm a racist
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Saying McCains comments were in excusable in three sentences before pasting articles regarding Obama's Rev is clearly looking at it rationally. Again picking and choosing words from a sermon and ignoring the message doesn't make it racist.I hate the word Gooks and the word niggers.See what I did there? Guess I'm a racist
Ill ask the question again, if we McCain went to KKK meetings for 20 yrs, but when called on it said he never heard those things when he was there... Would you believe him>?
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Ill ask the question again, if we McCain went to KKK meetings for 20 yrs, but when called on it said he never heard those things when he was there... Would you believe him>?
It is in no way a reasonable alternative to Obama's church. KKK preaches white supremecy the sermons that have been changed into soundbytes were common in poor and minority areas of the feeling of the government letting them down. This is comparing apples to sausages.Some of the harsher stuff that had been picked out Wright's sermoms like the post 9/11 stuff were sentiments of the evangilists who have endorsed McCain (and who had McCain speak for them) but not shockingly you haven't posted those yet.There is a million bash Obama threads and a million Rev Wright threads what this thread deserved was a response like "it was a horribly stupid comment to make but I don't view McCain as a racist" not another thread for you to show your hate for Obama
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This is fairly simple...I'll admit McCain made an awful racist comment and is racisist toward asiansI firmly believe Obama is a racist... I live in Chicago and understand this Church far better than you. I dont beleive him that he didnt hear these things Wright was saying.... I guess I prefer all of the racists feelings out of the closet then hidden like Obama'sWhich has been my point all along...

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Its interesting how certain war time or slave terms are viewed as racist while other terms got a free pass. Everyone uses the word Oriental without even realizing that its a racist term used to describe Asian slaves. I guess its all in how the word sounds.

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This is fairly simple...I'll admit McCain made an awful racist comment and is racisist toward asiansI firmly believe Obama is a racist... I live in Chicago and understand this Church far better than you. I dont beleive him that he didnt hear these things Wright was saying.... I guess I prefer all of the racists feelings out of the closet then hidden like Obama'sWhich has been my point all along...
Your point all along has been to find another thread to bash Obama in lets not pretend your intentions were any different.You are entitled to believing Obama is a racist but while not agreeing with all of what I've read from Wrights sermons I don't view them as racist, I view them as anti government. Again his sentiments are echoed at many churches through out the USA that cater to poor/minority communities.EDIT: Fwiw I don't think McCain is racist I just think he used bad judgement in the comment. Just like I don't believe he hates gay people even though he accepted the endorsement from those that do and the same goes for Obama.
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I guess its all in how the word sounds.
No I think it's all in how the word is used. It's not that a certain combination of letters offends the sensibilities, it's that the word is used as a term of hate and racial superiority. It's no different than if the word were Orientals or Ories or some other made up word, it's the usage of the word that gives it its meaning.
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Your point all along has been to find another thread to bash Obama in lets not pretend your intentions were any different.You are entitled to believing Obama is a racist but while not agreeing with all of what I've read from Wrights sermons I don't view them as racist, I view them as anti government. Again his sentiments are echoed at many churches through out the USA that cater to poor/minority communities.
And this is another thread Bashing John McCain... Do you know any one that has ever attended the Church? It is most definately racist
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And this is another thread Bashing John McCain... Do you know any one that has ever attended the Church? It is most definately racist
I do not. Maybe it is racist but I certainly didn't view the sermons that have circulated as such. Now if you can find a quote of Obama stating that he hates another race I'll say the candidates are even on this front. Threads bashing McCain are fewer around here but whatever. I'm done on this note.Obama: Knows people like Ayers - means Obama is a terroristAttends Church- means he is racistMcCain: knows people like Liddy: Doesn't matterEnorsed by Bigot Evangilists: Doesn't matterMakes Racist comment: Bad but not as bad as Obama going to racist ChurchSeems even keel to me.
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I do not. Maybe it is racist but I certainly didn't view the sermons that have circulated as such. Now if you can find a quote of Obama stating that he hates another race I'll say the candidates are even on this front. Threads bashing McCain are fewer around here but whatever. I'm done on this note.Obama: Knows people like Ayers - means Obama is a terroristAttends Church- means he is racistMcCain: knows people like Liddy: Doesn't matterEnorsed by Bigot Evangilists: Doesn't matterMakes Racist comment: Bad but not as bad as Obama going to racist ChurchSeems even keel to me.
Oabma has cultivated his political ideology from these men thru his career... if you think that doesnt matter, you are mistaken
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I've had that link in my signature for awhile, and I feel like it should be discussed, as long as we're slinging mud over every little thing. We have like a 5 page thread on Obama's citizenship, how about a discussion of McCain's racism? Note the date as well - it's not decades old.So, yes he was talking about his captors/torturers, but that doesn't change the fact that it's extremely racist. For example: had the war been in Africa somewhere and McCain had said "I hate the niggers, I will hate them as long as I live," he would never be running for president because that quote would have ended his political career. So where's the outrage over a presidential candidate who not only throws around racial slurs, but refuses to apologize for it?! "Gook" is a term of war, and has been used by American soldiers to describe Phillipinos, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, and finally the Vietnamese. 'The only good gook is a dead gook' was a saying in Vietnam. Please don't think I'm trying to denigrate his military service or the awful imprisonment he endured, but it doesn't give him a free pass to be racist by any means. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../18/MN32194.DTL
It isnt the least bit racist, it refers to RVN soldiers specifically, and not the asian race or even the Viet Namese nationality.
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Oabma has cultivated his political ideology from these men thru his career... if you think that doesnt matter, you are mistaken
Yep and McCain's affiliations mean nothing. His drastic change since 2001 in an effort to appease the conservative right is surely a sign of being honourable and trustworthy. Kind of weird that these american's would help "cultivate his ideology" considering he's not a citizen in fact he's a muslim, terrorist, socialist, anti christ.
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Yep and McCain's affiliations mean nothing. His drastic change since 2001 in an effort to appease the conservative right is surely a sign of being honourable and trustworthy. Kind of weird that these american's would help "cultivate his ideology" considering he's not a citizen in fact he's a muslim, terrorist, socialist, anti christ.
those americans are "anti-American losers"
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It isnt the least bit racist, it refers to RVN soldiers specifically, and not the asian race or even the Viet Namese nationality.
I have never heard a veteran refer to anyone as a "gook" other than in reference to specific incidents in VN.
Of course it is. Even if in the context of the Vietnam War it wasn't racist (and it seems to me that it certainly was, although surely I have to defer to you on that issue) it most certainly is now, and is widely interpreted as an offensive racial slur. I don't think you're going to find too many Asians who don't find it offensive. Mirriam-Webster: Pronunciation: \ˈgük\Function:nounEtymology: origin unknownDate: 1920usually offensive : a nonwhite or non-American person ; specifically : asian
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