Dratj 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I'm trying to get a home game going and I'd like to take 50% of one of my friends to get him to play. It's going to be four handed or five handed. unethical? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Is it okay if I punch you in the vagina? Link to post Share on other sites
Mickle00 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Unethical if you don't tell anyone else. If its just with friends just ask them before if its alright, or just loan your friend some cash. Link to post Share on other sites
Sportsmack 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Is it okay if I punch you in the vagina? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 It should be fine as long as you make the situation known and you don't softplay/collude. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Seems kind of unethical. You better not softplay him at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Is it okay if I punch you in the vagina?Does he get a free Hoodie with that punch? Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I'd say just lower the stakes instead. Unless you have some how won't play low and one who doesn't want to play high. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 It's more unethical the more shorthanded it gets, but if you ask everyone and they say it's ok then go ahead Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Is it okay if I punch you in the vagina?um. no. oh wait, what vagina?It should be fine as long as you make the situation known and you don't softplay/collude.yah, I'd make it known and not softplay.Seems kind of unethical. You better not softplay him at the very least.yesDoes he get a free Hoodie with that punch?What's the name of the website? I dont' see avatars or sigs or anything. I need to keep it clean for work.I'd say just lower the stakes instead. Unless you have some how won't play low and one who doesn't want to play high.interesting idea but noone wants to play any lower than 1/2 nlAnyways, the point is moot, my friend would rather just play on his own now. So, the game is on, it's all good. Link to post Share on other sites
magnus72 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 My friends had a deal going a couple years back where they would split all winnings at the end of the night and none of us knew about it. The bight I found out it was three handed between me and them two and I had no chance. We dont have any more home games. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 (edited) My friends had a deal going a couple years back where they would split all winnings at the end of the night and none of us knew about it. The bight I found out it was three handed between me and them two and I had no chance. We dont have any more home games.nah, I wouldnt' do that. I'd let it be known but after some thought, I think it's better not to do it altogether even with full disclosure. I was just trying to get a guy to play.Also, what your friends did was totally wrong. it's basically two against one without your knowledge. Not really the same thing. Edited October 12, 2008 by Dratj Link to post Share on other sites
QED 4 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 My friends had a deal going a couple years back where they would split all winnings at the end of the night and none of us knew about it. The bight I found out it was three handed between me and them two and I had no chance. We dont have any more home games. Was it a long drive to the disused quarry to bury the bodies? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 See, it's only unethical because you should soft-play him but he has no reason to soft-play you. So what you need to do is trade pieces of each other, so it's even-Steven. If you PM me I'll send you the signals me and my friends use when we're trading pieces in cash games. It's just smart poker. Link to post Share on other sites
Mickle00 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 See, it's only unethical because you should soft-play him but he has no reason to soft-play you. So what you need to do is trade pieces of each other, so it's even-Steven. If you PM me I'll send you the singles me and my friends use when we're trading pieces in cash games. It's just smart poker.Then it makes it smart poker to just gang up against the other guy, thus colluding. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Then it makes it smart poker to just gang up against the other guy, thus colluding.Correct. Link to post Share on other sites
msals11 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 not unethical at all if you don't softplay Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 not unethical at all if you don't softplayno sw? Interesting that a respected member of this forum thinks it's okay.Again, for the record, it's not happening, my friend is taking 100% of himself. Game starts in 20 min. wish me luck. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 no sw? Interesting that a respected member of this forum thinks it's okay.Again, for the record, it's not happening, my friend is taking 100% of himself. Game starts in 20 min. wish me luck.Since when is that retard a respected member?I'll punch him in the vagina too. Link to post Share on other sites
MadKennedy420 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Do you mean shills? Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I am really not sure why you would even bother with this. It really makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Without going so far as to say it's certainly unethical, I think it's a bad idea. Even if you play it straight, it doesn't look good. Link to post Share on other sites
dapokerbum 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I really see no problem with this as long as you aren't colluding in any way. I actually did this for a friend of mine a few years ago. He was my roommate and just got fired and had started a new job but he hadn't got his first paycheck and he wanted to sit in a friendly house game with the guys we had been playing with for the last year. There were usually between 8 - 10 guys that would show up. I told him I would give him $100 bucks to play but any profit he made was to be split 50/50. Funny thing though, I ended up busting him after he had lost $50 of it. So I got $50 of my money back! I didn't tell anyone else that I had bought him in because it didn't seem important how he got the money. Acutally, I did this for the same guy at a casino as well. Playing 3/6. Too bad that night he lost to set over set and never got anything going. GG $100 that night.That's my story and I'm stickin to it. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 There isn't anything wrong with this as long as it doesn't change the way you play hands with that player in the pot. The problem is, its pretty much impossible to do. I'm not saying I have or have not done this, but my amazing ability to know things tells me that for example, if I had decided to trade pieces with someone in a big game we both were in to minimize the variance, I would have often found myself calling flops with my buddy in the pot when I had some random draw that normally I would fold, because I knew in the back of my mind that with the odds I had with my buddy in that it was mathematically correct to call. But of course screws the other guy in the pot out of some of his equity. Does that make sense?So anyway, even though early in my poker days I would have said its fine, just make sure you don't cheat, now a days I say definitely don't do it because its impossible not to cheat. (not that I know by first hand knowledge or anything. And if I did, I'd also know the poker gods would have stuck it to me and made me lose a $10K pot because I stuck around drawing dead and got there. )Mark Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 There isn't anything wrong with this as long as it doesn't change the way you play hands with that player in the pot. The problem is, its pretty much impossible to do. I'm not saying I have or have not done this, but my amazing ability to know things tells me that for example, if I had decided to trade pieces with someone in a big game we both were in to minimize the variance, I would have often found myself calling flops with my buddy in the pot when I had some random draw that normally I would fold, because I knew in the back of my mind that with the odds I had with my buddy in that it was mathematically correct to call. But of course screws the other guy in the pot out of some of his equity. Does that make sense?So anyway, even though early in my poker days I would have said its fine, just make sure you don't cheat, now a days I say definitely don't do it because its impossible not to cheat. (not that I know by first hand knowledge or anything. And if I did, I'd also know the poker gods would have stuck it to me and made me lose a $10K pot because I stuck around drawing dead and got there. )MarkYou could have folded. Link to post Share on other sites
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