El Guapo & Randy Reed's Cooking Thread

[mk 11]

LJeff, menu looks nice. I mean, come on, people. Two different types of scallops are fine; it's not like there's two courses of grilled chicken breast.

[Tiltinagain 973]

Maybe read my post a little bit more carefully before you get all up in arms. I think my post made it pretty clear that it wasn't that I don't understand that chicken stock isn't vegetarian, it was that it didn't even cross my mind when I was cooking with it. If you're going to be militant about your vegetarianism (which my friend isn't), then if someone cooks your dinner it's up to you to make sure they followed the rules. Eating this way is your problem, not mine, don't bitch about it when I don't think of everything involved in your special diet....again, if you care that much, request an ingredient list prior to anyone cooking you anything.

Bravo! Well said.:::insert hand clap emoticon dude:::

[Skeleton Jelly 2]

Maybe read my post a little bit more carefully before you get all up in arms. I think my post made it pretty clear that it wasn't that I don't understand that chicken stock isn't vegetarian, it was that it didn't even cross my mind when I was cooking with it. If you're going to be militant about your vegetarianism (which my friend isn't), then if someone cooks your dinner it's up to you to make sure they followed the rules. Eating this way is your problem, not mine, don't bitch about it when I don't think of everything involved in your special diet....again, if you care that much, request an ingredient list prior to anyone cooking you anything.

I barely even skimmed your post, so I won't get all up in arms, but if you invite someone over for dinner knowing she has a special diet, shouldn't it be on you to accommodate it?Your suggestions seems kind of crass to me and I'm guessing would've been met with equal animosity about the gall of demanding final approval of what you serve.

[leftygolfer 7]

Scallops twice in one meal? Very amateur. It's just not the done thing to repeat a major ingredient like that in seperate courses. Other than that, nice job.

Well he just graduated and I had to pick items that everyone would appreciate (ie. one SIL doesn't eat veal, my wife only likes scallops and lobster, etc). Plus, me mum loves scallops. Third, I have pictures ( on my comp at home) and you would see that the scallop was not the major ingredient in either.Last, if we wanted to go all out, we would have gone to Charlie Trotters, but having been there half a dozen times, it's not as special.

Two different types scallops though so I wouldn't be to upset over that. But I am a heathen.

and a Red Wing fan...

Did you pick the wines, then he made the food for them, or the other way around? Because either way, good job on pairings.

I picked them from my cellar and then he came up with the 3-4 suggestions/course. We went back and forth a couple times to finalize the menu

And the same wine for back to back courses? COME ON!!!

Too lazy to have to clean the glasses.

LJeff, menu looks nice. I mean, come on, people. Two different types of scallops are fine; it's not like there's two courses of grilled chicken breast.

The apps and the soup with desert would have been enough.

[LadyGrey 6]

Maybe read my post a little bit more carefully before you get all up in arms. I think my post made it pretty clear that it wasn't that I don't understand that chicken stock isn't vegetarian, it was that it didn't even cross my mind when I was cooking with it. If you're going to be militant about your vegetarianism (which my friend isn't), then if someone cooks your dinner it's up to you to make sure they followed the rules. Eating this way is your problem, not mine, don't bitch about it when I don't think of everything involved in your special diet....again, if you care that much, request an ingredient list prior to anyone cooking you anything.

Haha, wow. Because requesting a full ingredient list wouldn't be demanding or anything. You knew that your friend was veggie, enough to even come here and post asking for suggestions about accomodating, so why are you suddenly acting like it wasn't your role as host to make sure there was a veggie option?By the way, anyone that isn't "militant" about being vegetarian shouldn't call themselves vegetarian, because it makes life harder for those of us who actually mean it when we say we don't eat fish/meat etc. And it may be "my problem, not yours" when I insist that my food doesn't contain fish/meat, but the same applies to someone with a peanut allergy, or lactose intolerance - it's their problem not yours, but as the host it's your job to accomodate them, like Skeleton Jelly said. If you can't be bothered to come up with an option for a specific dietary requirement, don't invite that person next time. You're the asshole for inviting them and then feeding them something unsuitable, not them for accepting your invitation.

[Tiltinagain 973]

You cannot seriously be comparing choosing to be a vegetarian to having a peanut allergy or lactose intollerance?!

[Skeleton Jelly 2]

You cannot seriously be comparing choosing to be a vegetarian to having a peanut allergy or lactose intollerance?!

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Because someone chooses to be a vegetarian means you don't have to care?

[LadyGrey 6]

You cannot seriously be comparing choosing to be a vegetarian to having a peanut allergy or lactose intollerance?!

For one thing I didn't "choose", I've been raised vegetarian since birth and even the smell of meat/fish is enough to make me heave.For another thing, what difference does it make if it's a choice or not? You should still be respecting my dietary requirement regardless of it's origin. If you are vegetarian it is a serious requirement and should be treated with more respect than a simple preference. I don't like olives but I will happily just pick them off if they come on a pizza. The same isn't the case with meat or fish - I can't eat something that contains or has come into contact with it. It makes me physically sick.

[brvheart 1,757]

I hate that, really. What the hell is it with omnivores not getting that chicken/beef/ham/whatever stock isn't vegetarian? The clue is the name, moron. It's so unacceptable to serve a vegetarian food with meat/fish stock in it and tell them it is vegetarian. Fair enough that you didn't know, but come on... it's called chicken stock.Sorry, that is just one of the banes of my life so it makes me kinda mad. Scallops twice in one meal? Very amateur. It's just not the done thing to repeat a major ingredient like that in seperate courses. Other than that, nice job.

Haha, wow. Because requesting a full ingredient list wouldn't be demanding or anything. You knew that your friend was veggie, enough to even come here and post asking for suggestions about accomodating, so why are you suddenly acting like it wasn't your role as host to make sure there was a veggie option?By the way, anyone that isn't "militant" about being vegetarian shouldn't call themselves vegetarian, because it makes life harder for those of us who actually mean it when we say we don't eat fish/meat etc. And it may be "my problem, not yours" when I insist that my food doesn't contain fish/meat, but the same applies to someone with a peanut allergy, or lactose intolerance - it's their problem not yours, but as the host it's your job to accomodate them, like Skeleton Jelly said. If you can't be bothered to come up with an option for a specific dietary requirement, don't invite that person next time. You're the asshole for inviting them and then feeding them something unsuitable, not them for accepting your invitation.

We once had a debate about how fish IS meat, that lasted probably 2 hours, with a couple Shiite Catholics on my dorm floor. Every time someone separates them it MAKES ME SO MAD! *stomp* *stomp* *stomp*

[El Guapo 8]

We once had a debate about how fish IS meat, that lasted probably 2 hours, with a couple Shiite Catholics on my dorm floor. Every time someone separates them it MAKES ME SO MAD! *stomp* *stomp* *stomp*

You are living in the dorms? Who is taking care of your kids, Turbo?

[brvheart 1,757]

You are living in the dorms? Who is taking care of your kids, Turbo?

Last time. Not this time. Those two guys would not admit under any circumstance that fish was meat.

[Theraflu 1,035]

Last time. Not this time. Those two guys would not admit under any circumstance that fish was meat.

So you don't eat fish on Lenten Fridays? I inquired about why fish was okay a couple years ago, never found an answer I liked. And by inquired, I mean I asked my fiancee's cousin who spoke broken English while we were out to dinner.

[Skeleton Jelly 2]

Brv isn't Catholic.No meat is actually no red meat.

[Theraflu 1,035]

Brv isn't Catholic.No meat is actually no red meat.

Hm. Ok, why the distinction?

[Skeleton Jelly 2]

Hm. Ok, why the distinction?

Because in Biblical times red meat was a luxury while even poor people ate fish. So giving up fish wouldn't be a sacrifice. Or something like that. I'm not really sure exactly. But I hope that was a better answer than the guy who couldn't speak English.

[Theraflu 1,035]

Because in Biblical times red meat was a luxury while even poor people ate fish. So giving up fish wouldn't be a sacrifice. Or something like that. I'm not really sure exactly. But I hope that was a better answer than the guy who couldn't speak English.

It was a girl, and I stopped pressing her after she gave me a some confabulated answer that amounted to the difference between meat/red meat. Thanks for the effort. I really dislike the malleability of Catholic rules as time goes on. Great pickoff by Durbin.

[brvheart 1,757]

I'm sure that SJ is as close to correct than any guess I would have. It's obviously true that fish is meat, but whatever makes the Catholics feel better, I guess. The whole thing doesn't make any sense. How is God being glorified by you getting wasted and ****ing everything in sight, right up until Fat Tuesday, and then not eating red meat for 40 days? It makes no sense that they think they are tricking God into believing that they care about Him. I think they would be better off just not going to church at all and not even claiming to believe in God.

[Tiltinagain 973]

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Because someone chooses to be a vegetarian means you don't have to care?

No, that's not what I said. Comparing vegetarianism to an allergy or condition you're born with is bullshit. Spin it how you will.

For one thing I didn't "choose", I've been raised vegetarian since birth and even the smell of meat/fish is enough to make me heave.For another thing, what difference does it make if it's a choice or not? You should still be respecting my dietary requirement regardless of it's origin. If you are vegetarian it is a serious requirement and should be treated with more respect than a simple preference. I don't like olives but I will happily just pick them off if they come on a pizza. The same isn't the case with meat or fish - I can't eat something that contains or has come into contact with it. It makes me physically sick.

See aboveThat said, getting back on the subject of food and this particular dinner, I agree that if you're going to invite a vegetarian for a meal you are preparing you should do everything in your power to accomodate them and NOT serve non-vegatarian ingredients.

I'm sure that SJ is as close to correct than any guess I would have. It's obviously true that fish is meat, but whatever makes the Catholics feel better, I guess. The whole thing doesn't make any sense. How is God being glorified by you getting wasted and ****ing everything in sight, right up until Fat Tuesday, and then not eating red meat for 40 days? It makes no sense that they think they are tricking God into believing that they care about Him. I think they would be better off just not going to church at all and not even claiming to believe in God.

Maybe because a seemingly large percentage of "christians" are the definition of hypocrites?Sunday christians regards,

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

I had a veg come to thanksgiving dinner once, who told me she really missed stuffing, so i made a dish on the side (because i don't care what people say, stuffing the bird is the way to go). she loved that i made her a veg stuffing and ate the whole thing, telling me it was the best stuffing she'd ever had. as we digested our meals on the sofa, she asked how i made it. "well you see you take some bread, and you season it, blah blah, add a pound of chopped bacon, and cook!..... wait, shit, i, oh....." she's not a veg anymore.

[Tiltinagain 973]

I had a veg come to thanksgiving dinner once, who told me she really missed stuffing, so i made a dish on the side (because i don't care what people say, stuffing the bird is the way to go). she loved that i made her a veg stuffing and ate the whole thing, telling me it was the best stuffing she'd ever had. as we digested our meals on the sofa, she asked how i made it. "well you see you take some bread, and you season it, blah blah, add a pound of chopped bacon, and cook!..... wait, shit, i, oh....." she's not a veg anymore.

Bacon should really be it's own food group anyway

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

i knew a girl who was vegetarian except for bacon and pepperoni. she was an odd bird.

[jeff_536 3]

i knew a girl who was vegetarian except for bacon and pepperoni. she was an odd bird.

That's like being a lesbian except for big black cock.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

wow, i think i'm a lesbian!

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

That's like being a lesbian except for big black cock.

I knew a girl like that in olympia, no joke. She was a lesbian, like culturally and politcally but some times would go to black clubs and **** random black guys. Called them flesh dildos.

[brvheart 1,757]

BigD, has anyone ever told you that you're a really ****ing weird dude?