rcooj_7 0 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Why are the rake's differnt for the same buyin Double or nothing tourneys.... I see a $1.10 and a $1.15 only diff is that the cheaper one is a Turbo3/0 now too Link to post Share on other sites
dt1313 0 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 only diff is that the cheaper one is a TurboI think that's why.Turbo = less time so maybe they feel they're being fair with less rake.Dan Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Record so far...NLHE: 8/18PLO: 6/6I think I'll stick with PLO. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Sorry if it's been discussed, but what's a good amount of buy ins to have? Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Sorry if it's been discussed, but what's a good amount of buy ins to have?I don't think there will be much difference in number of buy ins between these and normal SnG's. Link to post Share on other sites
rcooj_7 0 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Look how this endedPokerStars Game #21177326298: Tournament #114049555, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/10/13 22:27:30 ETTable '114049555 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 2: cdGoad (170 in chips) Seat 4: kkadgsm (1240 in chips) Seat 5: fiddysent52 (6545 in chips) Seat 7: skwisgaaar (1890 in chips) Seat 9: Little Hozer (1555 in chips) Seat 10: madicardsAA (3600 in chips) cdGoad: posts the ante 60kkadgsm: posts the ante 60fiddysent52: posts the ante 60skwisgaaar: posts the ante 60Little Hozer: posts the ante 60madicardsAA: posts the ante 60fiddysent52: posts small blind 300skwisgaaar: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to madicardsAA [Td 5c]Little Hozer: folds madicardsAA: folds cdGoad: calls 110 and is all-inkkadgsm: folds fiddysent52: calls 300skwisgaaar: checks *** FLOP *** [9h 5h 7h]fiddysent52: checks skwisgaaar: checks *** TURN *** [9h 5h 7h] [Qh]fiddysent52: checks skwisgaaar: checks *** RIVER *** [9h 5h 7h Qh] [9d]fiddysent52: checks skwisgaaar: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***fiddysent52: shows [9c 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)skwisgaaar: mucks hand fiddysent52 collected 980 from side potcdGoad: shows [8c Ah] (a flush, Ace high)fiddysent52 collected 690 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1670 Main pot 690. Side pot 980. | Rake 0 Board [9h 5h 7h Qh 9d]Seat 2: cdGoad showed [8c Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace highSeat 4: kkadgsm (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: fiddysent52 (small blind) showed [9c 9s] and won (1670) with four of a kind, NinesSeat 7: skwisgaaar (big blind) mucked [Jc 6c]Seat 9: Little Hozer folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: madicardsAA folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Look how this endedPokerStars Game #21177326298: Tournament #114049555, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/10/13 22:27:30 ETTable '114049555 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 2: cdGoad (170 in chips) Seat 4: kkadgsm (1240 in chips) Seat 5: fiddysent52 (6545 in chips) Seat 7: skwisgaaar (1890 in chips) Seat 9: Little Hozer (1555 in chips) Seat 10: madicardsAA (3600 in chips) cdGoad: posts the ante 60kkadgsm: posts the ante 60fiddysent52: posts the ante 60skwisgaaar: posts the ante 60Little Hozer: posts the ante 60madicardsAA: posts the ante 60fiddysent52: posts small blind 300skwisgaaar: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to madicardsAA [Td 5c]Little Hozer: folds madicardsAA: folds cdGoad: calls 110 and is all-inkkadgsm: folds fiddysent52: calls 300skwisgaaar: checks *** FLOP *** [9h 5h 7h]fiddysent52: checks skwisgaaar: checks *** TURN *** [9h 5h 7h] [Qh]fiddysent52: checks skwisgaaar: checks *** RIVER *** [9h 5h 7h Qh] [9d]fiddysent52: checks skwisgaaar: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***fiddysent52: shows [9c 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)skwisgaaar: mucks hand fiddysent52 collected 980 from side potcdGoad: shows [8c Ah] (a flush, Ace high)fiddysent52 collected 690 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1670 Main pot 690. Side pot 980. | Rake 0 Board [9h 5h 7h Qh 9d]Seat 2: cdGoad showed [8c Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace highSeat 4: kkadgsm (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: fiddysent52 (small blind) showed [9c 9s] and won (1670) with four of a kind, NinesSeat 7: skwisgaaar (big blind) mucked [Jc 6c]Seat 9: Little Hozer folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: madicardsAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)Well the best hand won.... Link to post Share on other sites
rcooj_7 0 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Then the very next hand AA busts me after i trip up on turn, he rivers flushPokerStars Game #21200388016: Tournament #114230128, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/10/14 19:42:15 ETTable '114230128 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: kathnda (970 in chips) Seat 2: madicardsAA (2540 in chips) Seat 3: cão doido (1545 in chips) Seat 4: Mrs.C.DeVil (1110 in chips) Seat 5: PINK F00T (1275 in chips) Seat 7: mutley416 (980 in chips) Seat 8: projocro (1105 in chips) Seat 9: ThndrChickn (3615 in chips) Seat 10: armygrunt45 (1860 in chips) kathnda: posts the ante 10madicardsAA: posts the ante 10cão doido: posts the ante 10Mrs.C.DeVil: posts the ante 10PINK F00T: posts the ante 10mutley416: posts the ante 10projocro: posts the ante 10ThndrChickn: posts the ante 10armygrunt45: posts the ante 10ThndrChickn: posts small blind 50armygrunt45: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to madicardsAA [As Ad]kathnda: folds madicardsAA: raises 100 to 200cão doido: folds Mrs.C.DeVil: calls 200PINK F00T: folds mutley416: folds projocro: calls 200ThndrChickn: folds armygrunt45: raises 1650 to 1850 and is all-inmadicardsAA: calls 1650Mrs.C.DeVil: folds projocro: calls 895 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [Js Tc 7s]projocro said, "yikes"*** TURN *** [Js Tc 7s] [Qd]*** RIVER *** [Js Tc 7s Qd] [3d]*** SHOW DOWN ***armygrunt45: shows [Ac Kh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)madicardsAA: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)armygrunt45 collected 1510 from side potprojocro: shows [Ks Ah] (a straight, Ten to Ace)madicardsAA said, "WOW"armygrunt45 collected 1813 from main potprojocro collected 1812 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 5135 Main pot 3625. Side pot 1510. | Rake 0 Board [Js Tc 7s Qd 3d]Seat 1: kathnda folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: madicardsAA showed [As Ad] and lost with a pair of AcesSeat 3: cão doido folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: Mrs.C.DeVil folded before FlopSeat 5: PINK F00T folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: mutley416 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: projocro (button) showed [Ks Ah] and won (1812) with a straight, Ten to AceSeat 9: ThndrChickn (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 10: armygrunt45 (big blind) showed [Ac Kh] and won (3323) with a straight, Ten to Ace Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHoot 0 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Haven't played in awhile. Just found these on PS. Cashed in something like 8/10. What's not to like??? Played mostly 5's and a couple 10's. Stupidest thing I saw was a 3 way pot, 6 players left, one player all in... Guess what? One of them bluffs on the river! Classic. Link to post Share on other sites
rdtedm 0 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Started grinding these yesterday.. 10/14 so far. I can effectively play nine tables, up from about 4-5 from regular SNG's. I deposited money online again after reading about these for the sole purpose of playing them because they look like a money maker.I just need to learn how to stay away from MTTs. Link to post Share on other sites
vonteego3 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 These are a pretty solid way to build a roll, if you're patient. I've been 10-tabling the 1.10 turbos, and I've gone from about $2 to $32 in about 150. Puts me somewhere around 98-52, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Stretchy 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Haven't really played many of these, so is this a good fold or should i have called and try to double up early and then just play super tight?PokerStars Game #21305801371: Tournament #115021694, $10.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/10/18 19:30:50 ETTable '115021694 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Christian82 (1650 in chips) Seat 2: codeblue2112 (1490 in chips) Seat 3: Mirigom (1480 in chips) Seat 4: stretch1430 (1500 in chips) Seat 5: lovemaker (1500 in chips) Seat 6: bskaar (1500 in chips) Seat 7: skramm (1500 in chips) Seat 8: MarkMylbech (1500 in chips) Seat 9: nidnamesleft (1500 in chips) Seat 10: luvdemsaints (1380 in chips) Mirigom: posts small blind 10stretch1430: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to stretch1430 [Js Jc]lovemaker: raises 20 to 40bskaar: calls 40skramm: folds MarkMylbech: folds nidnamesleft: folds luvdemsaints: folds Christian82: raises 260 to 300codeblue2112: folds Mirigom: folds stretch1430: folds lovemaker: calls 260bskaar: calls 260*** FLOP *** [Qs 3h Ts]lovemaker: checks bskaar: bets 1200 and is all-inChristian82: folds lovemaker: folds Uncalled bet (1200) returned to bskaarbskaar collected 930 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 930 | Rake 0 Board [Qs 3h Ts]Seat 1: Christian82 folded on the FlopSeat 2: codeblue2112 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Mirigom (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: stretch1430 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: lovemaker folded on the FlopSeat 6: bskaar collected (930)Seat 7: skramm folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: MarkMylbech folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: nidnamesleft folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: luvdemsaints folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Haven't really played many of these, so is this a good fold or should i have called and try to double up early and then just play super tight?PokerStars Game #21305801371: Tournament #115021694, $10.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/10/18 19:30:50 ETTable '115021694 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Christian82 (1650 in chips) Seat 2: codeblue2112 (1490 in chips) Seat 3: Mirigom (1480 in chips) Seat 4: stretch1430 (1500 in chips) Seat 5: lovemaker (1500 in chips) Seat 6: bskaar (1500 in chips) Seat 7: skramm (1500 in chips) Seat 8: MarkMylbech (1500 in chips) Seat 9: nidnamesleft (1500 in chips) Seat 10: luvdemsaints (1380 in chips) Mirigom: posts small blind 10stretch1430: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to stretch1430 [Js Jc]lovemaker: raises 20 to 40bskaar: calls 40skramm: folds MarkMylbech: folds nidnamesleft: folds luvdemsaints: folds Christian82: raises 260 to 300codeblue2112: folds Mirigom: folds stretch1430: folds lovemaker: calls 260bskaar: calls 260*** FLOP *** [Qs 3h Ts]lovemaker: checks bskaar: bets 1200 and is all-inChristian82: folds lovemaker: folds Uncalled bet (1200) returned to bskaarbskaar collected 930 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 930 | Rake 0 Board [Qs 3h Ts]Seat 1: Christian82 folded on the FlopSeat 2: codeblue2112 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Mirigom (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: stretch1430 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: lovemaker folded on the FlopSeat 6: bskaar collected (930)Seat 7: skramm folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: MarkMylbech folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: nidnamesleft folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: luvdemsaints folded before Flop (didn't bet)At the $10 level I would think this has to be at worst a pair of Queens, so you should fold. If you have the bankroll to take a hit if you go for then you can still call, as you have to hit multiple coolers or play like a donkey to lose from here. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Haven't really played many of these, so is this a good fold or should i have called and try to double up early and then just play super tight?PokerStars Game #21305801371: Tournament #115021694, $10.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/10/18 19:30:50 ETTable '115021694 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Christian82 (1650 in chips) Seat 2: codeblue2112 (1490 in chips) Seat 3: Mirigom (1480 in chips) Seat 4: stretch1430 (1500 in chips) Seat 5: lovemaker (1500 in chips) Seat 6: bskaar (1500 in chips) Seat 7: skramm (1500 in chips) Seat 8: MarkMylbech (1500 in chips) Seat 9: nidnamesleft (1500 in chips) Seat 10: luvdemsaints (1380 in chips) Mirigom: posts small blind 10stretch1430: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to stretch1430 [Js Jc]lovemaker: raises 20 to 40bskaar: calls 40skramm: folds MarkMylbech: folds nidnamesleft: folds luvdemsaints: folds Christian82: raises 260 to 300codeblue2112: folds Mirigom: folds stretch1430: folds lovemaker: calls 260bskaar: calls 260*** FLOP *** [Qs 3h Ts]lovemaker: checks bskaar: bets 1200 and is all-inChristian82: folds lovemaker: folds Uncalled bet (1200) returned to bskaarbskaar collected 930 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 930 | Rake 0 Board [Qs 3h Ts]Seat 1: Christian82 folded on the FlopSeat 2: codeblue2112 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Mirigom (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: stretch1430 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: lovemaker folded on the FlopSeat 6: bskaar collected (930)Seat 7: skramm folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: MarkMylbech folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: nidnamesleft folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 10: luvdemsaints folded before Flop (didn't bet)It's a 100 percent fold. You should fold just about everything there. It's so early in the tournament, and there's so much value in waiting for other people to make mistakes, there's no way you should play. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 One thing that drives me nuts is how big stacks put it on auto fold in the blinds, and end up folding for trival amounts verses small stacks. For example, I was just in a tourney that was down to 6 handed. There were 4 big stacks ( including myself) one small stack, and one micro stack ( 450, after antes). The blinds were 100/200, the mirco pushes in. the big stack CO folds. The HUGE stack button folds, I call with J5 suited, thinking the big blind will auto call, and we can check down. But no, he folds for 250 more, and I have to take on A7. I end up winning, but the hand drove me nuts. Every big stack should have called, at the very least the huge button, and the big blind. Why in the hell would you fold when calling is trival and can knock someone out? If if the stack wins, and quad's up, there's still a very small stack ( like 1200). that type of thing knaws on my tits. Link to post Share on other sites
The Lobster 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 One thing that drives me nuts is how big stacks put it on auto fold in the blinds, and end up folding for trival amounts verses small stacks. For example, I was just in a tourney that was down to 6 handed. There were 4 big stacks ( including myself) one small stack, and one micro stack ( 450, after antes). The blinds were 100/200, the mirco pushes in. the big stack CO folds. The HUGE stack button folds, I call with J5 suited, thinking the big blind will auto call, and we can check down. But no, he folds for 250 more, and I have to take on A7. I end up winning, but the hand drove me nuts. Every big stack should have called, at the very least the huge button, and the big blind. Why in the hell would you fold when calling is trival and can knock someone out? If if the stack wins, and quad's up, there's still a very small stack ( like 1200). that type of thing knaws on my tits.I played one of these a couple days ago for fun, and with 6 players remaining, UTG was short stack and shoved at the 100/200 level (probably had ~500 in his stack), I fold, the CO, Button, and BB all call. BB shoves (and has everyone covered) on flop into the dry sidepot, both CO and Button fold, and he shows up w/ KQ on something like a T72 flop, lol. He spiked a pair on the turn to win the pot, but such stupidity was ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I played one of these a couple days ago for fun, and with 6 players remaining, UTG was short stack and shoved at the 100/200 level (probably had ~500 in his stack), I fold, the CO, Button, and BB all call. BB shoves (and has everyone covered) on flop into the dry sidepot, both CO and Button fold, and he shows up w/ KQ on something like a T72 flop, lol. He spiked a pair on the turn to win the pot, but such stupidity was ridiculous. yeah, that typoe of stuff drives me insane.. or when someone bets into the dry side pot with nothing and there is someone all in.. there are some times when that's an okay strat, but not in a satellite. I really would like to kill people who do that. Link to post Share on other sites
Pack149 0 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Oh.my.lordPokerStars Game #21364762685: Tournament #115459871, $20.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/10/20 22:54:20 ETTable '115459871 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: Dave149 (4015 in chips) Seat 3: ClickAnPayMe (1385 in chips) Seat 4: imastud911 (6730 in chips) Seat 5: menopaze (760 in chips) Seat 6: Canhambone (530 in chips) Seat 7: peatjohnston (1580 in chips) Dave149: posts the ante 30ClickAnPayMe: posts the ante 30imastud911: posts the ante 30menopaze: posts the ante 30Canhambone: posts the ante 30peatjohnston: posts the ante 30menopaze: posts small blind 150Canhambone: posts big blind 300*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Dave149 [Kc Jc]peatjohnston: folds Dave149: folds ClickAnPayMe: folds imastud911: folds menopaze: calls 150Canhambone: raises 200 to 500 and is all-inmenopaze: foldsUncalled bet (200) returned to CanhamboneCanhambone collected 780 from potCanhambone: shows [8h Tc] (high card Ten)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 780 | Rake 0 Seat 1: Dave149 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: ClickAnPayMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: imastud911 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: menopaze (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: Canhambone (big blind) collected (780)Seat 7: peatjohnston folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
TheL0st1ne 0 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Oh.my.lordPokerStars Game #21364762685: Tournament #115459871, $20.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/10/20 22:54:20 ETTable '115459871 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: Dave149 (4015 in chips) Seat 3: ClickAnPayMe (1385 in chips) Seat 4: imastud911 (6730 in chips) Seat 5: menopaze (760 in chips) Seat 6: Canhambone (530 in chips) Seat 7: peatjohnston (1580 in chips) Dave149: posts the ante 30ClickAnPayMe: posts the ante 30imastud911: posts the ante 30menopaze: posts the ante 30Canhambone: posts the ante 30peatjohnston: posts the ante 30menopaze: posts small blind 150Canhambone: posts big blind 300*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Dave149 [Kc Jc]peatjohnston: folds Dave149: folds ClickAnPayMe: folds imastud911: folds menopaze: calls 150Canhambone: raises 200 to 500 and is all-inmenopaze: foldsUncalled bet (200) returned to CanhamboneCanhambone collected 780 from potCanhambone: shows [8h Tc] (high card Ten)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 780 | Rake 0 Seat 1: Dave149 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: ClickAnPayMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: imastud911 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: menopaze (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: Canhambone (big blind) collected (780)Seat 7: peatjohnston folded before Flop (didn't bet)Yeah how tight some people play on the bubble is so horrible, it really isnt funny. I usually 4-table these things, and usually I would go 4/4 ro 3/4, went 2/4 on one occasion but did very well usually. However, earlier I found out what it is like to run bad in these. Played 4, went like this;I have AK, flop comes J high...I have KK-TT, flop comes Axx. Went out in the 4 with.....22<A5dd allin on turn, 2d3d8xTx, river 7dAJcc<QQ allin on flop of 3c2c2x, i brick66<AQ AIPF, board comes JxxQAAA<AQ allin on Qxx flop, turn Q. This one was on the bubble and crippled me to 1xBBKind of a good wake up call that youre not always gonna show fantastic results, even if you play multible ones. I usually get mad but was kinda cool since I have ran so well. After each one I was just kinda like, 'meh'....and moved on. Link to post Share on other sites
AUBrandon 0 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 started regging these last night at the 10.40 level... yes its true that many people play like idiots in these... it is also true, however, that there are now a ton of regs that know what they are doing... these things fill much faster than regular sngs because of multitabling regs like myself... fold equity is the key to winning these people! Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 So, I had 2100 in chips in this tourney, and I really had to take a shit, and I wanted it over. I had JJ, a small stack pushes with k2, i win. A couple hands later I have QQ, I raise from 200 to 600, a smallish stack raises 1000 more, I call, he has 55, I now have 4500. So, because I have to shit, and because i'm the large stack, I decide that I'm going to start min raising every hand, putting pressure on small stacks.. my intention is to raise every hand, fold to any medium stack re-raise( unless i have a monster) and call any small stacks re push. First hand, I have 86, I min raise to 500, mico stack makes it 290 more, I call, he has AQ, I win obv, and I now have 5800 it's six handed, and a dire need to shit. I suppose I hada large enoug hstack I could have posted and folded and just taken a shit, but I wanted this tournament over So I raise every single hand that it gets folded to me, never calling an all in push, and once calling a mirco stack's re push. I go on to win 10 straight hands This is my favorite hand of the sequence. The second sized stack makes the mistake of min raising here. I know he can't possibly call my re push ( if he has a brain, at least) with pretty much any hand, and really, I don't care if he does, because I can easily survive doubling him , as there are so many mirco stacks who havent' taken a stand against me...tars Game #21379489081: Tournament #115572025, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/10/21 14:58:31 ETTable '115572025 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: genio360 (985 in chips) Seat 2: Sulpho (1710 in chips) Seat 3: BigDMcGee (7034 in chips) Seat 5: Berc28 (2001 in chips) Seat 6: mouelzi (930 in chips) Seat 7: Akhenaten11 (2340 in chips) genio360: posts the ante 30Sulpho: posts the ante 30BigDMcGee: posts the ante 30Berc28: posts the ante 30mouelzi: posts the ante 30Akhenaten11: posts the ante 30BigDMcGee: posts small blind 150Berc28: posts big blind 300*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to BigDMcGee [Qs Kh]mouelzi: folds Akhenaten11: raises 300 to 600genio360: folds Sulpho: folds BigDMcGee: raises 2100 to 2700Berc28: folds Akhenaten11: folds Uncalled bet (2100) returned to BigDMcGeeBigDMcGee collected 1680 from potBigDMcGee: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1680 | Rake 0 Seat 1: genio360 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Sulpho (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: BigDMcGee (small blind) collected (1680)Seat 5: Berc28 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: mouelzi folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: Akhenaten11 folded before FlopThat's a lession to you all.. if it's 6 handed, and there's a maniac big stack raising every hand, and you're in second place, don't bother raising, there's no point, let the big stack d othe work for you. Anyway, so now everyone has a small stack, and the tournament ends on this hand.. where I push in the big blind just for a laugh. I know my play is incorrect here, but I'm so unlikely to bust out sixth, that the joy it gave me to push the 900 stack was greater than my chance of losing. however, it was -ev w/r/t me needing to shit.. but it ended up working out. I challenge any of you to be able to break the 10K chip mark in one of these. The shortest stack played so very poorly in this, he just blinded his way out of the tournament. He also was multi-tabling, so not all of these multi tabling grinders are playing correctly. If you're the smallest stack at the table, you should be willing to push pretty much any time it's folded to you, and you need to do it while you still have a stack big enough that it's not a trivial call for the BB to call you. Basically, Genio and mouselzi were in a chicken raise to see which one of them would broom corn out of the tournament first.. Very stupid, IMO. I also highly recomend, if you find yourself in a stack size 3500+, to take your noble right, and min-raise alot. Keep pressure on the mirco stacks.. the medium stacks won't do it, because losing the pot to the mirco's costs them too much. It's up to you, big stacks... min raise, fold to medium stacks, and call small stacks with almost any hand. PokerStars Game #21379549163: Tournament #115572025, $5.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/10/21 15:00:48 ETTable '115572025 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: genio360 (385 in chips) Seat 2: Sulpho (1260 in chips) Seat 3: BigDMcGee (10484 in chips) Seat 5: Berc28 (1401 in chips) Seat 6: mouelzi (330 in chips) Seat 7: Akhenaten11 (1140 in chips) genio360: posts the ante 30Sulpho: posts the ante 30BigDMcGee: posts the ante 30Berc28: posts the ante 30mouelzi: posts the ante 30Akhenaten11: posts the ante 30Sulpho: posts small blind 150BigDMcGee: posts big blind 300*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to BigDMcGee [5h 6c]Berc28: folds mouelzi: calls 300 and is all-inAkhenaten11: folds genio360: folds Sulpho: calls 150BigDMcGee: raises 900 to 1200Sulpho: folds Uncalled bet (900) returned to BigDMcGee*** FLOP *** [Jh 5c 4d]*** TURN *** [Jh 5c 4d] [9d]*** RIVER *** [Jh 5c 4d 9d] [Th]*** SHOW DOWN ***BigDMcGee: shows [5h 6c] (a pair of Fives)mouelzi: shows [8s As] (high card Ace)BigDMcGee collected 1080 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 1080 | Rake 0 Board [Jh 5c 4d 9d Th]Seat 1: genio360 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Sulpho (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: BigDMcGee (big blind) showed [5h 6c] and won (1080) with a pair of FivesSeat 5: Berc28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: mouelzi showed [8s As] and lost with high card AceSeat 7: Akhenaten11 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Here's me getting completely owned in one last night:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to wandigo [Kc Jc]DevilNJ: calls 30PKGINC: foldsdtnmlp: foldsJCthekiller: foldsjohnnyv5000: foldsmilletch: foldswandigo: calls 30krmont22: foldsnatdog100: calls 15350zoom: checks*** FLOP *** [5s Qd Qs]natdog100: checks350zoom: checksDevilNJ: checkswandigo: bets 80natdog100: folds350zoom: foldsDevilNJ: calls 80*** TURN *** [5s Qd Qs] [2d]DevilNJ: checkswandigo: bets 220DevilNJ: calls 220*** RIVER *** [5s Qd Qs 2d] [7d]DevilNJ: bets 30wandigo: raises 1110 to 1140 and is all-inDevilNJ: calls 1060 and is all-inUncalled bet (50) returned to wandigo*** SHOW DOWN ***wandigo: shows [Kc Jc] (a pair of Queens)DevilNJ: shows [8c Ah] (a pair of Queens - Ace kicker)DevilNJ collected 2900 from potvery next hand he makes another A-high hero callDealt to wandigo [4s Qd]PKGINC: foldsdtnmlp: calls 30JCthekiller: foldsjohnnyv5000: foldsmilletch: foldswandigo: foldskrmont22: foldsnatdog100: folds350zoom: foldsDevilNJ: checks*** FLOP *** [3c 9d 5h]DevilNJ: bets 30dtnmlp: raises 60 to 90DevilNJ: calls 60*** TURN *** [3c 9d 5h] [Kc]DevilNJ: bets 30dtnmlp: raises 180 to 210DevilNJ: calls 180*** RIVER *** [3c 9d 5h Kc] [5c]DevilNJ: bets 180dtnmlp: raises 320 to 500DevilNJ: calls 320*** SHOW DOWN ***dtnmlp: shows [Ts As] (a pair of Fives)DevilNJ: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Fives - Ace+King+Queen kicker)DevilNJ collected 1675 from pot Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Here's me getting completely owned in one last night:*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to wandigo [Kc Jc]DevilNJ: calls 30PKGINC: foldsdtnmlp: foldsJCthekiller: foldsjohnnyv5000: foldsmilletch: foldswandigo: calls 30krmont22: foldsnatdog100: calls 15350zoom: checks*** FLOP *** [5s Qd Qs]natdog100: checks350zoom: checksDevilNJ: checkswandigo: bets 80natdog100: folds350zoom: foldsDevilNJ: calls 80*** TURN *** [5s Qd Qs] [2d]DevilNJ: checkswandigo: bets 220DevilNJ: calls 220*** RIVER *** [5s Qd Qs 2d] [7d]DevilNJ: bets 30wandigo: raises 1110 to 1140 and is all-inDevilNJ: calls 1060 and is all-inUncalled bet (50) returned to wandigo*** SHOW DOWN ***wandigo: shows [Kc Jc] (a pair of Queens)DevilNJ: shows [8c Ah] (a pair of Queens - Ace kicker)DevilNJ collected 2900 from potvery next hand he makes another A-high hero callDealt to wandigo [4s Qd]PKGINC: foldsdtnmlp: calls 30JCthekiller: foldsjohnnyv5000: foldsmilletch: foldswandigo: foldskrmont22: foldsnatdog100: folds350zoom: foldsDevilNJ: checks*** FLOP *** [3c 9d 5h]DevilNJ: bets 30dtnmlp: raises 60 to 90DevilNJ: calls 60*** TURN *** [3c 9d 5h] [Kc]DevilNJ: bets 30dtnmlp: raises 180 to 210DevilNJ: calls 180*** RIVER *** [3c 9d 5h Kc] [5c]DevilNJ: bets 180dtnmlp: raises 320 to 500DevilNJ: calls 320*** SHOW DOWN ***dtnmlp: shows [Ts As] (a pair of Fives)DevilNJ: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Fives - Ace+King+Queen kicker)DevilNJ collected 1675 from potLOL that's your own fault for trying to get fancy and run bluffs early when you don't need to. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 LOL that's your own fault for trying to get fancy and run bluffs early when you don't need to.I run bluffs when I have a very good read that my opponent has air. I'm still like 7/10 in these $104's. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I run bluffs when I have a very good read that my opponent has air. I'm still like 7/10 in these $104's. Grats. I'm just saying, I don't think there's any need to risk that many amount of chips, early, in an unraised nothing pot, for no reason. There's so many other low risk situations in these sngs you can win pots. You should have stopped betting on the turn. This isn't a regular tournament, there's no extra money for chip accumulation. That play is so much more +ev for every other person in the tournament not involved in the hand that it is for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now