RabidTortuga 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Villian is playing 60/0/0.3 through 30ish hands.Poker StarsLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $0.50/$15 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 2 9 UTG folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, Hero checks.Flop: 9 Q 6 (2.5SB, 2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.Turn: Q (2.25BB, 2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.River: 5 (4.25BB, 2 players)Hero betsGood, bad, ugly? Sorry if it's standard, I'm trying to make the adjustment to 6-max. Heck, I hope it's standard. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Villian is playing 60/0/0.3 through 30ish hands.Poker StarsLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $0.50/$15 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 2 9 UTG folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, Hero checks.Flop: 9 Q 6 (2.5SB, 2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.Turn: Q (2.25BB, 2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.River: 5 (4.25BB, 2 players)Hero betsGood, bad, ugly? Sorry if it's standard, I'm trying to make the adjustment to 6-max. Heck, I hope it's standard.Yep. Looks standard to me. You're folding at any time if raised here vs. a guy with those stats. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 i don't know if a check/call or a bet/fold is better on that river. its probably close. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I mean, c/c river was my first instinct, but if he's so passive that he won't bet a missed flush draw, then it's obviously bad. That being said, some passives do bet when you check to them, as it's their only way to win the pot.... I dunno, value bet is probably best. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Continue betting. I hate Limit! Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Continue betting. I hate Limit! You said that in both responses! Why are you in this forum!(?) Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I continue betting and hope he looks you up with ace high Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I think c/c is horrible, here, against a loose-passive player. B/F. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,355 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I have a question for ya'll... how often and against what kind of opponent do you river raise bluff? While I agree the bet/fold line is appropriate in this case, I see that line advocated alot in every forum, and most of the time, it makes sense. but at the same time, I think a player that is an aggressive value better, who folds often to river raises, has an exploitable weakness. how do you recognize that weakness, and how often do you exploit it? Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I have a question for ya'll... how often and against what kind of opponent do you river raise bluff? While I agree the bet/fold line is appropriate in this case, I see that line advocated alot in every forum, and most of the time, it makes sense. but at the same time, I think a player that is an aggressive value better, who folds often to river raises, has an exploitable weakness. how do you recognize that weakness, and how often do you exploit it?Well you see the thing is, even though everyone advocates b/f, it is rarely done, and especially less often by our opponents. At low stakes, our opponents just suck really hard and are never folding anything. If you have a player who is going to bet/fold in a correct spot, you should probably just be switching tables if you're at anything lower than 3/6. Then, once you get up past 3/6, everyone is bluffraising all over, so everyone turns into a showdown monkey (I showdown just less than 40% of the time and I think anything less would be exploitable). So the answer is that I bluffraise the river quite often, but the profitability is not that high, because nobody folds. Luckily, in big pots, it just doesn't have to work that often to be slightly profitable. I do agree though; If everyone b/f as much as is recommended, they would be incredibly exploitable. I would raise and b/3b the river alllllllll the time. It would be awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
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