gfdsa146 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hand #270308888507 Card Stud *High-Low* ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 *3rd Street* - (0.80 SB)Player A: xx xx Ks___foldsPlayer B: xx xx 9h___calls___callsPlayer C: xx xx Js___foldsPlayer D: xx xx 6d___raisesPlayer E: xx xx 9c___foldsPlayer F: xx xx Ah___foldsPlayer G: xx xx 4d___callsPlayer H: xx xx 2c___*brings-in*___calls*4th Street* - (4.80 SB)Player B: xx xx 9h Jh___checks___callsPlayer D: xx xx 6d 4s___betsPlayer G: xx xx 4d 5d___callsPlayer H: xx xx 2c Qh___*checks*___folds*5th Street* - (3.90 BB)Player B: xx xx 9h Jh 5s___*checks*___callsPlayer D: xx xx 6d 4s Td___betsPlayer G: xx xx 4d 5d Jc___calls*6th Street* - (6.90 BB)Player B: xx xx 9h Jh 5s 3s___Player D: xx xx 6d 4s Td Qd___Player G: xx xx 4d 5d Jc Kd___*bets*What range do you assign Player G after he bets 6th street? Player G has played pretty standard-ly, no glaring mistakes or soul reads. He's been betting when he's supposed to like if he had xx xx Ad 2c up against boards like xx xx 3d Js with a large portion of his range. He's also been folding when he supposed to like if he has 8s 5c 3d Td to a bet from a xx xx 5d 6h board. Player B is an unknown and new to the table.Sorry uncooper, i completely forgot about this hand. This is what actually happened (I'm player D):PokerStars Game #27030888850: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/04/12 23:24:52 ETTable 'Borrelly' 8-maxSeat 1: NeilOP ($12.30 in chips)Seat 2: alavou1004 ($9.95 in chips)Seat 3: bernerami ($25.10 in chips)Seat 4: gfdsa146 ($24.15 in chips)Seat 5: PittsburghFn ($10 in chips)Seat 6: DealPete ($14.45 in chips)Seat 7: Ekim1182 ($35.60 in chips)Seat 8: kudri84 ($17.10 in chips)NeilOP: posts the ante $0.05alavou1004: posts the ante $0.05bernerami: posts the ante $0.05gfdsa146: posts the ante $0.05PittsburghFn: posts the ante $0.05DealPete: posts the ante $0.05Ekim1182: posts the ante $0.05kudri84: posts the ante $0.05*** 3rd STREET ***Dealt to NeilOP [Ks]Dealt to alavou1004 [9h]Dealt to bernerami [Js]Dealt to gfdsa146 [8d 7d 6d]Dealt to PittsburghFn [9c]Dealt to DealPete [Ah]Dealt to Ekim1182 [4d]Dealt to kudri84 [2c]kudri84: brings in for $0.25NeilOP: foldsalavou1004: calls $0.25bernerami: foldsgfdsa146: raises $0.25 to $0.50PittsburghFn: foldsDealPete: foldsEkim1182: calls $0.50kudri84: calls $0.25alavou1004: calls $0.25*** 4th STREET ***Dealt to alavou1004 [9h] [Jh]Dealt to gfdsa146 [8d 7d 6d] [4s]Dealt to Ekim1182 [4d] [5d]Dealt to kudri84 [2c] [Qh]kudri84: checksalavou1004: checksgfdsa146: bets $0.50Ekim1182: calls $0.50kudri84: foldsalavou1004: calls $0.50*** 5th STREET ***Dealt to alavou1004 [9h Jh] [5s]Dealt to gfdsa146 [8d 7d 6d 4s] [Td]Dealt to Ekim1182 [4d 5d] [Jc]alavou1004: checksgfdsa146: bets $1Ekim1182: calls $1alavou1004: calls $1*** 6th STREET ***Dealt to alavou1004 [9h Jh 5s] [3s]Dealt to gfdsa146 [8d 7d 6d 4s Td] [Qd]Dealt to Ekim1182 [4d 5d Jc] [Kd]Ekim1182: bets $1alavou1004: foldsgfdsa146: raises $1 to $2Ekim1182: raises $1 to $3gfdsa146: calls $1*** RIVER ***Dealt to gfdsa146 [8d 7d 6d 4s Td Qd] [6h]Ekim1182: bets $1gfdsa146: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***Ekim1182: shows [9d 3d 4d 5d Jc Kd 8h] (HI: a flush, King high)gfdsa146: mucks handEkim1182 collected $14.40 from potNo low hand qualifiedThis hand was such a cooler lol.On 6th street, as soon as he lead into me, I saw that as superman strength because player G/Ekim1182 had two things going for him:1) He lead into me after I bet every single street prior. That takes balls. If one doesn't have balls, a good hand can be used as a substitute.2) He bet into the field. I thought there was a very strong possibility that he had a flush. However, that would mean that his flush was king-high and even worse: it would have to be a diamond flush (and no, i'm not just saying this in hindsight. these were my actual thoughts as soon as he made the bet).I wanted to make the hero fold to his 1st bet on 6th street and might have if he had xx xx 4s 5s Jc Ks instead, but because he had diamonds out I said to myself "in order for him to have me beat, he would not only have to have coolered me with flush over flush, the deck would have had to deal out 10 diamond cards to precisely me AND him. The chance of him having a k-high diamond is low, like lottery-low."I 2-bet him, he 3-bet me which put the fear of God into me. I flatted the 3-bet. Blanks hit the river for both of us and we went to showdown unimproved after he bet once and I called.I posted this hand to see if my urge to hero fold 6th was too paranoid. Link to post Share on other sites
gfdsa146 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Been playing horse the last couple of weeks.Want to read something on strategy, even just starting hand requirements....anyone?Plz revive this thread Link to post Share on other sites
gfdsa146 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Some BBV:LOLPokerStars Game #27777898716: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/05/03 14:31:22 ETTable 'Iduberga' 8-maxSeat 1: NMMs ($19.95 in chips) Seat 2: 40licks ($29.85 in chips) Seat 4: mrgegas ($46.15 in chips) Seat 5: Buoybt ($24.75 in chips) Seat 6: Vicktorx ($28.05 in chips) Seat 7: gfdsa146 ($18.70 in chips) Seat 8: mcr44455 ($48.10 in chips) NMMs: posts the ante $0.0540licks: posts the ante $0.05mrgegas: posts the ante $0.05Buoybt: posts the ante $0.05Vicktorx: posts the ante $0.05gfdsa146: posts the ante $0.05mcr44455: posts the ante $0.05*** 3rd STREET ***Dealt to NMMs [4c]Dealt to 40licks [5h]Dealt to mrgegas [Kh]Dealt to Buoybt [3c]Dealt to Vicktorx [Kd]Dealt to gfdsa146 [5d Ah 7h]Dealt to mcr44455 [9h]Buoybt: brings in for $0.25Vicktorx: folds gfdsa146: raises $0.25 to $0.50mcr44455: folds NMMs: calls $0.50Vicktorx leaves the table40licks: folds mrgegas: calls $0.50Buoybt: folds *** 4th STREET ***Dealt to NMMs [4c] [4d]Dealt to mrgegas [Kh] [8d]Dealt to gfdsa146 [5d Ah 7h] [6c]NMMs: bets $0.501s1s1 joins the table at seat #6 mrgegas: raises $0.50 to $1gfdsa146: raises $0.50 to $1.50NMMs: calls $1mrgegas: calls $0.50*** 5th STREET ***Dealt to NMMs [4c 4d] [4s]Dealt to mrgegas [Kh 8d] [6s]Dealt to gfdsa146 [5d Ah 7h 6c] [3s]NMMs: bets $1mrgegas: calls $1gfdsa146: raises $1 to $2NMMs: calls $1mrgegas: calls $1*** 6th STREET ***Dealt to NMMs [4c 4d 4s] [As]Dealt to mrgegas [Kh 8d 6s] [Jc]Dealt to gfdsa146 [5d Ah 7h 6c 3s] [7s]NMMs: bets $1mrgegas: calls $1gfdsa146: raises $1 to $2NMMs: raises $1 to $3mrgegas: calls $2gfdsa146: raises $1 to $4Betting is cappedNMMs: calls $1mrgegas: calls $1*** RIVER ***Dealt to gfdsa146 [5d Ah 7h 6c 3s 7s] [Qs]NMMs: bets $1mrgegas: calls $1gfdsa146: raises $1 to $2NMMs: raises $1 to $3mrgegas: calls $2gfdsa146: raises $1 to $4Betting is cappedNMMs: calls $1mrgegas: calls $1*** SHOW DOWN ***gfdsa146: shows [5d Ah 7h 6c 3s 7s Qs] (HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 7,6,5,3,A)NMMs: shows [Ad Th 4c 4d 4s As Qd] (HI: a full house, Fours full of Aces)mrgegas: mucks hand NMMs collected $18.05 from potgfdsa146 collected $18.05 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $36.60 | Rake $0.50 Seat 1: NMMs showed [Ad Th 4c 4d 4s As Qd] and won ($18.05) with HI: a full house, Fours full of AcesSeat 2: 40licks folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)Seat 4: mrgegas mucked [Ts Kc Kh 8d 6s Jc 6d]Seat 5: Buoybt folded on the 3rd StreetSeat 6: Vicktorx folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)Seat 7: gfdsa146 showed [5d Ah 7h 6c 3s 7s Qs] and won ($18.05) with HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 7,6,5,3,ASeat 8: mcr44455 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I'm sweating my buddy playing 3/6 HORSE on FTP and there is a player with the handle "EdgarAllanPwn" Priceless Link to post Share on other sites
Pdiddydog 0 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I'm still semi-retired, but I thought I would share this hand with you guys. Any thoughts? What kinda of range do you put both me and villain on?Background:Hero - 3-bets a wide range, has several gears and is capable of many types of plays.Villain - Raises at least twice every round. Seems to play some bizarre form of small ball, is spewy in certain spots.No Limit Hold'emEPMPVil (CO)ButtonSBHero (BB)Preflop: (1.50 BB) Hero is BB with XXEP folds, MP folds, Vil raises to 2.50x, Button folds, SB folds Hero raises to 8.00x, Vil callsFlop: (16.50 BB) 6d Js 6c (2 players)Hero bets 1.10x , Vil callsTurn: (38.50 BB) 6d Js 6c Jd (2 players)Hero checks, Vil bets 22.00x, Hero raises to 53.50x (all in), Vil foldsResults: Hero wins 114.00 BBYou didn't think I was just gonna post a Hold'em hand in a MIXED GAME thread did you!!? Here is some Stud Hi action. Give your thoughts MIXERS!Stud Hi3rd Street - (1.60 SB)Player A: xx xx 2:club:___foldsHero: 5:hearts: 4:heart: 6:heart:___calls___callsPlayer B: xx xx K:heart:___foldsVil A: xx xx Q:club:___raises___callsVil B: xx xx A:club:___raisesPlayer C: xx xx 9:club:___folds4th Street - (7.60 SB)Hero: 5:hearts: 4:heart: 6:heart: 4:diamond:___raises___callsVil A: xx xx Q:club: 2:spade:___foldsVil B: xx xx A:club: K:diamond:___bets___raises5th Street - (6.80 BB)Hero: 5:heart: 4:heart : 6:heart : 4:diamond: 2:heart:___raisesVil B: xx xx A:club: K:diamond: K:club:___bets___calls6th Street - (10.80 BB)Hero: 5:heart: 4:heart : 6:heart : 4:diamond: 2:heart: T:club:___checkVil B: xx xx A:club: K:diamond: K:club: 2:diamond:___checkRiver - (10.80 BB)Hero: 5:hearts: 4:heart : 6:heart : 4:diamond: 2:heart: T:club: 4:spade:___raises___foldsVil B: xx xx A:club: K:spade: K:club: 2:diamond: xx___bets___raisesResults - Vil B wins 14.80 BB Link to post Share on other sites
slink 1 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 2 questions:1. I play on fulltilt and when I check the last hands the cards are out of order on razz, stud, and stud h/l-why is that?2. Is there a website to that has a poker calculator for the rest of the HORSE games (ORSE)? Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 2 questions:1. I play on fulltilt and when I check the last hands the cards are out of order on razz, stud, and stud h/l-why is that?2. Is there a website to that has a poker calculator for the rest of the HORSE games (ORSE)?At #1, its because they want to emulate live poker where you can obviously shuffle your whole cards and not know what they started with which is really frustrating :(Yes @ #2, dont have the link off hand though... Ill search for it a little later. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 2 questions:1. I play on fulltilt and when I check the last hands the cards are out of order on razz, stud, and stud h/l-why is that?2. Is there a website to that has a poker calculator for the rest of the HORSE games (ORSE)?1 - if you play stud in a casino they toss you cards and its common practice to mix your down cards around. 2 - twodimes.com has an equity calculator for every game. i think propokertools does also and has a lot more functionality. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 *Brag Post*I wanted to play some HORSE last night, and I always play .25/.50, my bank roll is $150 and I planned on trying .5/$1 when I got my BR to $200.Well there was no .25/.5 game, but a few of the .25/.5 regulars were playing .5/1. I had notes on 3 of the 7 players at the table. Basically I had noted that two of the three were loose/passive and one was LAG.Anyway, I sat down for 57 hands and made 8.5 BB and was quite pleased that I didn't nit up nor did I donk off... /bragGL all Link to post Share on other sites
gfdsa146 0 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 *Brag Post*I wanted to play some HORSE last night, and I always play .25/.50, my bank roll is $150 and I planned on trying .5/$1 when I got my BR to $200.Well there was no .25/.5 game, but a few of the .25/.5 regulars were playing .5/1. I had notes on 3 of the 7 players at the table. Basically I had noted that two of the three were loose/passive and one was LAG.Anyway, I sat down for 57 hands and made 8.5 BB and was quite pleased that I didn't nit up nor did I donk off... /bragGL all Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Line check...Full Tilt Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.comPreflop: Hero is SB with 10 , J , A , 6 :spade:UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB checksFlop: (5 SB) 8 , 7 , 9 (5 players)Hero bets, 2 folds, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, MP2 callsTurn: (7 BB) 3 (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, MP2 callsRiver: (16.6 BB) K (3 players, 1 all-in)Hero bets, MP2 callsTotal pot: $1.86 (18.6 BB) | Rake: $0.09 Link to post Share on other sites
uncooper 1 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Line check...Full Tilt Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.comPreflop: Hero is SB with 10 , J , A , 6 :spade:UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB checksFlop: (5 SB) 8 , 7 , 9 (5 players)Hero bets, 2 folds, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, MP2 callsTurn: (7 BB) 3 (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, MP2 callsRiver: (16.6 BB) K (3 players, 1 all-in)Hero bets, MP2 callsTotal pot: $1.86 (18.6 BB) | Rake: $0.09I think you should generally be either capping this flop or c/r the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
uncooper 1 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Thought about this more and I think I like capping the flop, and playing it the way you did from the turn on. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Thought about this more and I think I like capping the flop, and playing it the way you did from the turn on.Definitely should have capped the flop, I was thinking mp2 might cap, but should have just done it...Turn on is pretty easy, and I actually ended up with 3/4 as CO had a 3 and mp2 had A6TX for a lower straight and the same low... Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 at those limits, def cap the flop kingjames. no monkey business. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I didn't know there was such a thing as Limit Omaha... Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I didn't know there was such a thing as Limit Omaha...Really? generally played hi/lo 8-or-better...Don't you play 8-game? Is it not included? Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Really? generally played hi/lo 8-or-better...Don't you play 8-game? Is it not included?Yes, I'm aware of Limit O8 but not Limit Omaha High. The converter posted the hand as Limit Omaha, not Limit Omaha Hi-Lo. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Yes, I'm aware of Limit O8 but not Limit Omaha High. The converter posted the hand as Limit Omaha, not Limit Omaha Hi-Lo.I now see where the confusion comes from... and it was O8, silly converter...And seeing as it was O8, I needed to cap the flop and not get tricky, they ae all staying in whether I raise or not, so might as well do it... Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Wow I just rivered a royal flush against a guy with Aces full in PLOForgot to get the HH, but sick...I had K Q J T :club:Board ran outK J J A T :diamond:He had AAxx for aces full of jacks and the bad beat courtesy of me, goodnight nowOh, he min-raised the button preflop, so I *knew* (but was stubborn) he had the bulletsI potted the flop, so he should have folded those trashy aces... Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 PS if that was Jspencer, believe him this time and I'm sorry Link to post Share on other sites
slink 1 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Which limits are you playing? Do you want advice for every game?How about advice for LHE. Can't seem to win at this game, lately I've been sitting out during LHE @ .25/.50.Plus last night I was playing against a super aggressive player who seemed to win everytime at showdown (and lost my buyin-was a little card dead, but everytime I would get in on a draw at Omaha, stud, and stud/8 I would lose or fold near or on the end against this player).How do I deal with this? He raised everytime he had the bet.Probably just wait for premium hands?Bankroll is 200 but I have a job so I can redeposit if needed.Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 How about advice for LHE. Can't seem to win at this game, lately I've been sitting out during LHE @ .25/.50.Plus last night I was playing against a super aggressive player who seemed to win everytime at showdown (and lost my buyin-was a little card dead, but everytime I would get in on a draw at Omaha, stud, and stud/8 I would lose or fold near or on the end against this player).How do I deal with this? He raised everytime he had the bet.Probably just wait for premium hands?Bankroll is 200 but I have a job so I can redeposit if needed.Thoughts?Get position on him, if another spot on the table opens. Worth the effort. Beyond that, sitting out at LHE worked for me for a long, long time hehe. Link to post Share on other sites
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