JoeyJoJo 18 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Inserting the picture again might have worked better.Damn, you're right. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Who are those people? If I had to take a wild guess, it would be Alicia Keys and [insert famous rapper] Let's go with 50cent. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Yep. That picture works everytime. Also: I still don't know who they are. Jay-Z? Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Yep. That picture works everytime. Also: I still don't know who they are. Jay-Z?And Beyonce, the hottest women in the game who is wearing his chain. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I thought JayZ was going out with Rihanna? Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I thought JayZ was going out with Rihanna?There have been rumors that they've had an affair. He discovered her and she is under his label (or whatever the correct musical jargon is). Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I thought JayZ was going out with Rihanna?He may very well be, but he's married to beyonce. Link to post Share on other sites
RodReynolds 87 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 He may very well be, but he's married to beyonce.OH SNAPAnother Beyonce vs ~Beyonce . These are always fun. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 typical. the reason you hate debating might be because it forces you to actually back up assertions. we weren't even debating objectivism, just your misunderstanding of gold and economics. i just think its funny that one of your biggest problems with rand is based on something you have completely wrong. its laughable really, all this verbiage about how dumb she is and it turns out you're clueless.i wouldnt even consider myself an objectivist and am not interested in debating the philosophy, but dont think that your bullshit will work on me where you just claim things and then try to insult anyone who embarrasses you like i just did.please, recontinue this thread however you want. ive only come here to deride you a little bit and with that... im off.Is this what I sound like? God I hope I'm at least more reasonable.Don, feel free to start a new thread with your original post and some smarter people than you will very quickly show how wrong you are. How severely wrong. And your tone in being so wrong was really quite delicious. And I'm only referring to your understanding of gold and economics, I don't care about Rand either way. You sound like a government official in 1931. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 How severely wrong. And your tone in being so wrong was really quite delicious.Yeah, is the crux of why I don't engage in debates with rand apologists. Their tone makes me want to throttle them. Either that, or, you know.. i'm ignorant and afraid. One or the other.You sound like a government official in 1931.*chortle* Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Whatever, it's not realistic to consider gold for a standard anymore now that Fort Knox has been emptied to clear room for the spacecraft. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 OH SNAPAnother Beyonce vs ~Beyonce . These are always fun.What the hell brings you out of the woodwork? I need to know, so that I can do that: repeatedly. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 So I've never read any of DFW's books but I'm planning on it now - I just read/listened to Consider The Lobster and other essays, read by DFW himself. It was fantastic. Should I upload it? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 So I've never read any of DFW's books but I'm planning on it now - I just read/listened to Consider The Lobster and other essays, read by DFW himself. It was fantastic. Should I upload it?Start with this article he wrote for Harper's magazine. You won't want to stop reading.http://harpers.org/media/pdf/dfw/HarpersMa...-01-0007859.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 So I've never read any of DFW's books but I'm planning on it now - I just read/listened to Consider The Lobster and other essays, read by DFW himself. It was fantastic. Should I upload it?Um... I jumped right into DFW with Infinite Jest. I knew nothing about it, but a friend of mine, who's opinion I respected was reading it. He was actually the roommate of my best friend at the time. He was always carrying this massive book around, reading it. I asked him what it was about, and he just stumbled over the explanation, like he couldn't really explain what it was about in a way that made sense. So, this really smart friend of mine way spending a huge amount of time reading something he couldn't even explain? This had to be good. So I bought it, and was just blown away. It became like I was part of a secret society in college and after. I'd talk to people about authors, and then mention DFW ( or they would) and we'd freak out, it was an instant bond. I made plans with a crazy friend of mine to make a pilgrimage to UofIll CU where he was a prof at the time to visit him, but she was crazy and flaked out and nothing came of it. Anyway, I'm rambling. I say, just jump into infinite jest, it's the best thing he wrote, and one of the best things ever wrote. That Harper's article that Brv linked became the title essay of " A supposedly fun thing I'll never do again " a collection of his essays, which would be the second thing I'd recommend. I'm still bitter there will never be another DFW novel. He should have been considered one of the great authors of my life time, and instead is probably going to fade into obscurity. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 What the hell brings you out of the woodwork? I need to know so that I can do that: repeatedly.Though a 20 ton Mack truck may be on course to hit you in your Hyundai Sonata, the fact that there exists a thin yellow line to his and your left, is enough reason for you to not take corrective action against what appears to be certain disaster. In fact, it's best if you don't. Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I'm still bitter there will never be another DFW novel. He should have been considered one of the great authors of my life time, and instead is probably going to fade into obscurity.They are planning on releasing his unfinished novel about IRS agents and the mundanity of number crunching or something in April 2011 I believe. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 They are planning on releasing his unfinished novel about IRS agents and the mundanity of number crunching or something in April 2011 I believe.I don't know how I feel about releasing an unfinished novel. I get the feeling DFW was fairly obsessive about the minute details of his work... Link to post Share on other sites
Theraflu 1,035 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 From NYT...In April 2011, the limits of literary boredom will be tested when Little, Brown & Company publishes “The Pale King,” David Foster Wallace’s novel, found unfinished after his suicide in 2008, about the inner lives of number-crunching I.R.S. agents. An excerpt that appeared last year in The New Yorker depicts a universe of microboredom gone macro: “He did another return; again the math squared and there were no itemizations on 32 and the printout’s numbers for W-2 and 1099 and Forms 2440 and 2441 appeared to square, and he filled out his codes for the middle tray’s 402 and signed his name and ID number. . . .”For all the mundanity of its subject matter, the excerpt presents boredom as something more strenuous and exalted than the friendly helper depicted by the neuroscientists, keeping our minds revved up even when we think we’re idling. Boredom isn’t just good for your brain. It’s good for your soul. “Bliss — a second-by-second joy and gratitude at the gift of being alive, conscious — lies on the other side of crushing, crushing boredom,” Wallace wrote in a note left with the manuscript. “Pay close attention to the most tedious thing you can find (Tax Returns, Televised Golf) and, in waves, a boredom like you’ve never known will wash over you and just about kill you. Ride these out, and it’s like stepping from black and white into color. Like water after days in the desert. Instant bliss in every atom.”It remains to be seen whether “The Pale King” will break through to the ecstasy beyond boredom, or just put readers to sleep. (Or perhaps cause serial brain injury, like the unreadably dense experimental novel that keeps laying waste to readers in “The Information,” by Martin Amis.) But if Wallace’s last work turns out to be unbearably dull, perhaps we should be grateful. After all, if it weren’t for all the boring books in the world, why would anyone feel the need to try to write more interesting ones? Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I just bought 'Infinite Jest.' I also just listened to 'selected stories' from 'Brief Interviews With Hideous Men,' read by the author. Victory for the forces of democratic freedom! Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 So here is DFW reading 3 unabridged essays from 'Consider The Lobster.' The stories are, in order, Consider The Lobster, Big Red Son, and How Tracy Austin Broke My Heart. Super-short review: The first story shares its title with the book itself, so you can guess that it's pretty good. The 2nd story is about the porn awards in Vegas, and it's one of the funniest things I've ever heard/read. The third story is a review of an autobiography by a tennis player I'd never heard of, and it's incredible. The final line of the essay, Wallace's final conclusion regarding what it means to be a truly great athlete, is frankly brilliant. Anyways I just got Infinite Jest. It'll probably take me forever to read it though - I'm slow, and of course it's approximately 34,000 pages long.So yeah, fucking download this and listen to it. It's incredible. And if any of you DFW fans happen to have never heard his voice, I quite like the way he reads it. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JB2ACH54Edit: Oh yeah, it also has a 4th story about his experience on 9/11, which is also good. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Just bought Infinite Jest...maybe I'll read it over spring break. I'm kind of excited. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Thanks, Timbo. Those essays are all indeed amazing, and I frequently cite that Tracy Austen review for all sorts of interesting things. That collection is in my bathroom and gets reread more than pretty much anything else. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 Anyone looking for more DFW audio, I stumbled across this: http://sonn-d-robots.com/dfw/ Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I frequently cite that Tracy Austen review for all sorts of interesting things.I mean, I'd never even heard of her, and certainly had no interest in her autobiography. But Wallace turns what is purportedly a book review into something amazing. The last line pretty much gave me chills the first time I heard it - it's so outstanding. I gotta get the full book now (Consider The Lobster), since the audiobook is just those 3 essays. Tracy Austin spoiler: "...and that those who received and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it. And not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." Anyone looking for more DFW audio, I stumbled across this: http://sonn-d-robots.com/dfw/ Awesome! Link to post Share on other sites
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